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CARR “STARTING” AS OUR QB NEXT YEAR?

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton I know. I just want it gone. It’s not like we’re in contention, just cut bait and start fresh. We still haven’t seen the full potential of Ratter with a good o line and healthy receivers. ...

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Old 02-28-2025, 11:09 AM   #1
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Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton View Post
I know. I just want it gone.
It’s not like we’re in contention, just cut bait and start fresh. We still haven’t seen the full potential of Ratter with a good o line and healthy receivers.
Well I do like that Kellen has publicly stated they want to contend for the division. And kudos to Mickey for at least saying his goal is to win now.

Frankly, if when they restructure Carr, they'll have money to work with in FA so it could work. We'd be right back here next year but 10 wins is conceivable.

My offseason targets would be

Free Agents:
Becton for LG
Bolton LB from Chiefs

Draft:
Trade back from #9 to around 12 for another pick in the top 40

TE Tyler Warren
DE Walter Nolen
S Xavier Watts
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Old 02-28-2025, 02:26 PM   #2
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Well I do like that Kellen has publicly stated they want to contend for the division. And kudos to Mickey for at least saying his goal is to win now.

Frankly, if when they restructure Carr, they'll have money to work with in FA so it could work. We'd be right back here next year but 10 wins is conceivable.

My offseason targets would be

Free Agents:
Becton for LG
Bolton LB from Chiefs

Draft:
Trade back from #9 to around 12 for another pick in the top 40

TE Tyler Warren
DE Walter Nolen
S Xavier Watts
Well I’m glad Kellen has that spirit about him…that’s what you want in a head coach,Mickey on the other hand seems like he’s always in win now mode. Maybe some are ok with constantly restructuring contracts, but at some point enough is enough. At some point you got to clear things and reset. That’s my perspective on what philosophy we should go with..it’s not like it doesn’t work.

I like the idea of trading back in the draft, but I hope we don’t select a TE with our first pick. Those lines, especially on the defensive side of the ball and linebackers need to be hit hard, and I’d like to see it go through the next few drafts. There’s a time when you can afford to select a luxury position high up, but right now isn’t it imo. Even if Jeanty fell to us, as much as I’d absolutely hate to pass on him, I feel we have more important issues to address.
I do like your other choices though
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Old 02-28-2025, 01:25 PM   #3
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Honestly, there is a long time between here and the beginning of the season. So much is going to change with the draft and free agency.
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Old 02-28-2025, 02:24 PM   #4
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Honestly, there is a long time between here and the beginning of the season. So much is going to change with the draft and free agency.
With Carr still at the helm, there will be pain.
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Old 02-28-2025, 11:21 AM   #5
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I wish I could take every division championship banner we have, eat only at mexican food buffets for a week, go on antibiotics, use the banners as toilet paper, and then burn them. Winning a weak division is a weak goal. We are competing in a beauty contest open only to garbage collectors and bragging about how 2 years ago we got 2nd place.

I don't care if there are only 5-10 QBs in the league that are way better than Carr. There are many QBs in the league who are young enough to become way better. Carr had peaked and is starting to break down. The play he double-injured himself on against the Giants was the lowest IQ play in the league last year. Rattler may be high risk but he has a higher ceiling. A 2026 draft pick like Manning or Nussmeir would have a higher ceiling. A young QB who never quite reaches Carr's peak, but gets close while making only $2 million a year, would give our team a higher ceiling.

I don't want to win the NFC South and get embaressed in the playoffs. Been there done that. I would refuse any division championship banner representing single digit wins, because it would be celebrating mediocrity. We need a culture of excellence. Derek Carr is not excellent. He isn't a leader. He is Matt Ryan 2.0. Derek Carr is karma's curse on our fanbase for reveling in the suffering of all Falcons fans during the Matt Ryan era.

Finally Atlanta tired of Matt Ryan. They did not have a better option in place but they moved on anyway. Turns out that Ryan did not exactly win rings when he left. Now they have options at least, though I think Penix will get hurt. Why do we have to relive the Matt Ryan era with Derek Carr. The only smart thing the Falcons ever did was get rid of Matt Ryan, and we need to move on from his clone.
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https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/news...ack-derek-carr

Whatever the Saints leak out via the media and whatever others sources say, it's never over until it's over.
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Key quote:

"The Steelers had their eye on the Saints situation and they wanna see if they eventually do cut Carr. If so they’re in,"
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Meh 😒…

Another year & another excuse for Carr. “Hey it’s a new system”, “he has a new head coach”, “it’s team rebuilding around him”, blah, blah, blah.

But hey, this is YEAR 12! But maybe this is the year he will finally put it all together.
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Meh 😒…

Another year & another excuse for Carr. “Hey it’s a new system”, “he has a new head coach”, “it’s team rebuilding around him”, blah, blah, blah.

But hey, this is YEAR 12! But maybe this is the year he will finally put it all together.
Hence why I was amongst the first last year to jump off the Carr wagon. His benefit of the doubt was extended with the new OC last year, but in reality the sign were always there, even before his signing. Raiders fans knew all along and warned us too. That decision to sign Carr falls on DA and Loomis. Just think where we'd be cap wise sans Carr's contract?

Hopefully HC Moore disposes of Carr with the quickness, and with a trade if at all possible. Pittsburgh Steelers keep coming up.
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The contract only makes sense if you keep him and mildly restructure his contract so the cap hits don't hit us all at once.

If the Saints are healthy I think Carr can win the division.
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