Re: Time to trade Olave?
 

A grade 1 concussion can include up to 30 minutes of unconsciousness and up to 24 hours of amnesia. Its not so minor as your make it out to be. The grades can be pretty subjective and it can be pretty hard and almost any concussion can be graded a 1 unless the player is knocked out so long they wake up in the hospital or they dont remember anything the 24 hours later. I have never even seen a boxing or mma head kick ko that resulted in anything near 30 minute unconscious, these higher grades are often meant for head on auto collissions I believe, unless a team wants to use later linger symptoms to justify them. Often the difference between a grade 1 and a grade 2-3 will involve how thoroughly team doctors choose to scrutinize the player after over 24 hours, whether they prod for minor linger symptoms and whether they test memory by asking their name or whether they ask their 3rd grade teachers name and what their phone number was at the time.

The difference between a grade 1 and grade 3 concussion could often be the teams agenda. If the team is looking to justify trading up for a player and betting the farm on their staying healthy, they can grade it a 1. If the pick was under a previous gm/coach and/or they are looking to cut their losses and move on they can grade it a 3 based on some lingering symptom. Some will say doctors are always consistent and dolphins doctors were the same as the Saints doctors and Tuas concussions were definitely worse than Olave’s, but if the Dolphins and Saints doctors we would never have got Drew Brees. The Saints doctors are riverboat gamblers.

As to the Saints knowing more than we do, that would imply the Saints can predict the outcome of complex injury histories and how serious various medical conditions are. That would ignore the Saints history with every injured player after Drew Brees, where they have consistently translated beginners luck with Brees to a gambling addiction with a string of injured players resulting in the most injured franchise in the league.

As to generational wealth, you can build it by signing a big contract and then getting a doctor to declare you unable to play just after. I would rather Olave build that wealth by signing with the Atlanta Falcons in 2027.

Re: Time to trade Olave?
 

Why do you hate this team so badly?

Re: Time to trade Olave?
 

We had this same argument about Michael Thomas. I wanted him to become an Atlanta Falcon, you wanted the Saints to bet on his rehab and that his injury history was a fluke. Who hates this team? I hate the Falcons.

Re: Time to trade Olave?
 

Elite route runner.

When MT left, we moved Olave to the X which made him more susceptible to injury when facing rough contact on the outside.

Hoping Kellen works him more into the slot like he did with Lamb and Smith. That alone could reduce head injuries and prolong his otherwise stellar output.

Re: Time to trade Olave?
 

:rolleyes:

Re: Time to trade Olave?
 

That would be the Olave career saving roster move. Do we have the horses to make it stick?

Re: Time to trade Olave?
 

At least he doesn’t have Carmax throwing him some of those hospital passes anymore :rolleyes:

Re: Time to trade Olave?
 

I think the slot would make olave more susceptible to concussions. If anything he is safer as a one on one deep threat on the outside where he is running step for step in the same direction as the defender and seeking separation, then often going out of bounds before contact, versus working over the middle in traffic. Even if i cant prove its worse, good luck proving slot is better. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-in-todays-nfl

Lamb and Smith are both a lot bigger than Olave. Many modern slots are built big to withstand hits while olave is tiny. Also, Smith had a concussion in Moore’s offense last year.

If anything, losing Carr will be what helps Olave stay healthy. But even Hurts couldnt protect a bigger smith in Moore’s offense.

Re: Time to trade Olave?
 

Keep an eye out for Keenan Allen.

Good insurance policy & backup plan in the event we lose a starter to injury.

Re: Time to trade Olave?
 

He'd be great for a young quarterback.