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papz 07-18-2025 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1010580)
Just like every other player that experiences a concussion of any degree Olave went through the league's concussion protocol which requires as a final of five steps being "cleared by both the club physician and the independent neurological consultant to return to full activity". From what I have heard that basically means it has been determined that the player is subject to no greater danger than any other player playing the same position.

The player is more aware of any risk and is in a better position than any of us to weigh any risk. Playing in the NFL is risky for every player. That's one major reason why they get paid as much as they do. Let's not forget that these players have committed their entire lives to the privilege of playing in the league.

Tua Tagovailoa has been cleared many, many times. I would say given his history, another concussion would put him in greater danger than the next guy. Obviously it's a case by case issue but having multiple concussions are never a good thing... especially in a shorter amount of time.

Rugby Saint II 07-18-2025 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 1010539)
Whilst you are probably right about the level of concussions received, anyone can believe that repeated bouts of the same injury can't be a good thing. Medicine is always evolving, so maybe there just isn't a good enough set of procedures yet to see what 4 concussions in 2 years actually looks like for the individual in later years.

As for the last point, "IF" Olave did choose to hang the cleats up, I'd consider him a very bright individual for not worrying about what others think about NFL toughness levels and instead prioritizing his future health.

I had over a dozen concussions while I learned how to play rugby. Proper technique is essential. After having all those concussions I now have memory issues that are getting worse every day. Onset of early dementia......sucks. :dunce:

AsylumGuido 07-25-2025 09:01 AM

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SmashMouth 07-25-2025 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 1010584)
I take it all back. If Olave is laughing off 4 concussions and isn’t worried about anything because gods got him at the end of the day, I am sure everything will be fine. In general, athletes who miss future time with injury just sinned a lot and lack faith, like people who get in car accidents or are effected by natural disasters, whereas athletes with many past concussions just needed a laugh and will be fine. If a gambler says they will win, I believe them. The great thing about this is not only can Olave have a long career, he can do whatever he wants, laugh at serious risks after multiple warning signs, and there will be no consequences. Honestly it he just said the risk was worth it I could relate, but I feel like laughing at risks isn’t faith in god, ita hubris. Even if Olave didnt have this injury history, I would hesitate to pay a young Brandin Cooks type who thinks he’s elite the big money. He’s just not a dominant physical player he is a finesse guy who relies on speed and quickness and has always been good not great, once he loses a fraction of a step his production will drop. Sometimes the market for good matches the market for great because desperate teams need to sell to themselves and fans that their good players are great, but in the end the teams that recognize that mistake will prosper, like the Saints when they traded Graham (sorry, top corners could take him out of a game) and Cooks.

BB when in NE knew when to part ways with a player, Randy Moss included. Maybe Olave has 29 lives, more than cats, maybe not. We'll see sometime in the year. If a team backs up the Brinks Truck with draft picks and we can keep our cap going in the same more healthy direction, why not?

AsylumGuido 08-01-2025 11:43 AM

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BakoSaint 08-07-2025 09:17 AM

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To add to the debate on Olave's past concussions, it has come out that ammonia based smelling salts are broadly used in the NFL to 'boost alertness' and can make the symptoms of concussions. So all those 'mild grade 1' concussions Olave has had, and the times he has taken what looked to be a concussing hit, 'shook it off', and returned to the game. You have to wonder even more now about how many and how severe players like Olave's concussions have been and what the long term impact will be, because in addition to the subjective nature of concussion grading, and how severe even a grade 1 concussion can be with unconsciousness and memory loss, you also have widely used methods of masking the symptoms either in-game or to test out of the protocol.

The new NFL policy is that teams/staff will no longer be able to supply smelling salts, but players can still make the decisions on their own.

saintsfan1976 08-08-2025 07:04 PM

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BYOSS!


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