So he made it official.........

sarge06 · 01-08-2006, 05:10 PM

Im sorry but I say VY is 3rd in this class I have Cutler ahead of him. It is a proven fact that pocket passer are the ones who succed in this leauge. VY will not be able to run like that on NFL defenses. He is not quicker than Vick and in case you haven't noticed the leauge as figured him out too.

He has a very unorthdox throwing style, which I believe will lead to many blocked passes. And he doesnt have a long ball.

Sorry his performance against USC was the greastest inividual college football performance that I have ever seen. But that doesnt mean he will be a good pro.

MordorIV · 01-08-2006, 05:22 PM

key word sarge YOU

sarge06 · 01-08-2006, 05:30 PM

You tell me what makes VY a better pick than Linehart?

Crusader · 01-08-2006, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by sarge06

Im sorry but I say VY is 3rd in this class I have Cutler ahead of him. It is a proven fact that pocket passer are the ones who succed in this leauge. VY will not be able to run like that on NFL defenses. He is not quicker than Vick and in case you haven't noticed the leauge as figured him out too.

He has a very unorthdox throwing style, which I believe will lead to many blocked passes. And he doesnt have a long ball.

Sorry his performance against USC was the greastest inividual college football performance that I have ever seen. But that doesnt mean he will be a good pro.

True dat. Vick has a lot harder time now to make plays with his feet because everybody is expecting that. He now has to become more of a pocket pasaser and he is struggeling.

sarge06 · 01-08-2006, 06:20 PM

Exactly. Defenses in the NFL are forcing QBs to be pocket passer and beat them with their arms. I don't think that Vince's passing skills are good enough.

SaintsAvenger · 01-08-2006, 06:30 PM

two words: get him!!!!!

Milians · 01-08-2006, 06:32 PM

Lets clear up a few myths here. First of all, Vince Young is NOT quicker OR faster than Michael Vick. He is definitely NOT as big as Byron Leftwich. He DOES have a three quarters sidearm delivery. His arm is NOT one of the strongest in college football, let alone the NFL. That being said, he is definitely one of the all-time great college QB's and is responsible for one of the greatest individual performances ever(Rose Bowl). He is also an unbelievable team leader who simply refuses to let his team lose. He projects as a better NFL QB than Vick because of his overall combination of ability and intangibles. If we can't have Bush, I can think of no one I would rather have with the second pick than Young.

Winwin · 01-08-2006, 06:40 PM

Lets clear up a few myths here. First of all, Vince Young is NOT quicker OR faster than Michael Vick. He is definitely NOT as big as Byron Leftwich. He DOES have a three quarters sidearm delivery. His arm is NOT one of the strongest in college football, let alone the NFL. That being said, he is definitely one of the all-time great college QB's and is responsible for one of the greatest individual performances ever(Rose Bowl). He is also an unbelievable team leader who simply refuses to let his team lose. He projects as a better NFL QB than Vick because of his overall combination of ability and intangibles. If we can't have Bush, I can think of no one I would rather have with the second pick than Young.

clear it up one more time, your(yours) belief that vince young is not quicker than vick. i've seen both play and i think he is, there is a difference in being quick and being fast. his accuracy is off the charts, and no one can predict about blocked passes are anything else. his heart can't be gauge because it's off the charts a warriors warrior. and it wasn't singlely the 2006 rose bowl, go back and check the one's against michigan and ohio state.

sarge06 · 01-08-2006, 06:42 PM

He is also an unbelievable team leader who simply refuses to let his team lose.

OU v Texas 2004
12-0 OU

papz · 01-08-2006, 06:46 PM

Since his stock is so high now after beating USC, I can see why he's coming out. I still think he'd be better off starting another season in Texas but it's hard to pass up so much money. I thought prior to that game no way was Young going to be a top 10 pick, but I guess I was wrong. He's more impressive than I give him credit for. With that said, I still would take Leinart over Young. I think Leinart could start right away while Young will have to sit on the bench for at least a year before he gets any playing time.

01-08-2006, 05:10 PM	#21
sarge06 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Denham Springs, LA Posts: 212	RE: So he made it official......... Im sorry but I say VY is 3rd in this class I have Cutler ahead of him. It is a proven fact that pocket passer are the ones who succed in this leauge. VY will not be able to run like that on NFL defenses. He is not quicker than Vick and in case you haven't noticed the leauge as figured him out too. He has a very unorthdox throwing style, which I believe will lead to many blocked passes. And he doesnt have a long ball. Sorry his performance against USC was the greastest inividual college football performance that I have ever seen. But that doesnt mean he will be a good pro.

01-08-2006, 05:22 PM	#22
MordorIV 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 305	RE: So he made it official......... key word sarge YOU

01-08-2006, 05:30 PM	#23
sarge06 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Denham Springs, LA Posts: 212	RE: So he made it official......... You tell me what makes VY a better pick than Linehart?

01-08-2006, 06:14 PM	#24
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: RE: So he made it official......... Originally Posted by sarge06 Im sorry but I say VY is 3rd in this class I have Cutler ahead of him. It is a proven fact that pocket passer are the ones who succed in this leauge. VY will not be able to run like that on NFL defenses. He is not quicker than Vick and in case you haven't noticed the leauge as figured him out too. He has a very unorthdox throwing style, which I believe will lead to many blocked passes. And he doesnt have a long ball. Sorry his performance against USC was the greastest inividual college football performance that I have ever seen. But that doesnt mean he will be a good pro. True dat. Vick has a lot harder time now to make plays with his feet because everybody is expecting that. He now has to become more of a pocket pasaser and he is struggeling.

01-08-2006, 06:20 PM	#25
sarge06 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Denham Springs, LA Posts: 212	RE: Re: RE: So he made it official......... Exactly. Defenses in the NFL are forcing QBs to be pocket passer and beat them with their arms. I don't think that Vince's passing skills are good enough.

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01-08-2006, 06:32 PM	#27
Milians Registered Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 81	Lets clear up a few myths here. First of all, Vince Young is NOT quicker OR faster than Michael Vick. He is definitely NOT as big as Byron Leftwich. He DOES have a three quarters sidearm delivery. His arm is NOT one of the strongest in college football, let alone the NFL. That being said, he is definitely one of the all-time great college QB's and is responsible for one of the greatest individual performances ever(Rose Bowl). He is also an unbelievable team leader who simply refuses to let his team lose. He projects as a better NFL QB than Vick because of his overall combination of ability and intangibles. If we can't have Bush, I can think of no one I would rather have with the second pick than Young.
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01-08-2006, 06:40 PM	#28
Winwin 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 332	Lets clear up a few myths here. First of all, Vince Young is NOT quicker OR faster than Michael Vick. He is definitely NOT as big as Byron Leftwich. He DOES have a three quarters sidearm delivery. His arm is NOT one of the strongest in college football, let alone the NFL. That being said, he is definitely one of the all-time great college QB's and is responsible for one of the greatest individual performances ever(Rose Bowl). He is also an unbelievable team leader who simply refuses to let his team lose. He projects as a better NFL QB than Vick because of his overall combination of ability and intangibles. If we can't have Bush, I can think of no one I would rather have with the second pick than Young. clear it up one more time, your(yours) belief that vince young is not quicker than vick. i've seen both play and i think he is, there is a difference in being quick and being fast. his accuracy is off the charts, and no one can predict about blocked passes are anything else. his heart can't be gauge because it's off the charts a warriors warrior. and it wasn't singlely the 2006 rose bowl, go back and check the one's against michigan and ohio state.
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01-08-2006, 06:42 PM	#29
sarge06 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Denham Springs, LA Posts: 212	He is also an unbelievable team leader who simply refuses to let his team lose. OU v Texas 2004 12-0 OU

01-08-2006, 06:46 PM	#30
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,753	Since his stock is so high now after beating USC, I can see why he's coming out. I still think he'd be better off starting another season in Texas but it's hard to pass up so much money. I thought prior to that game no way was Young going to be a top 10 pick, but I guess I was wrong. He's more impressive than I give him credit for. With that said, I still would take Leinart over Young. I think Leinart could start right away while Young will have to sit on the bench for at least a year before he gets any playing time.