So he made it official.........

Winwin · 01-08-2006, 07:03 PM

Hey Win that ones kinda old. Go to fantasy football toolbox and the selection thats marked other mock drafts and there are a bunch of updated ones there.

thanks cheramie, but i purposely got old stuff. to show how vince was thought of prior to the game.

CheramieIII · 01-08-2006, 07:04 PM

Got ya!

sarge06 · 01-08-2006, 07:06 PM

Hey win Im sure that I could pull out things that had him at 112 or 13. Thats not the point I was trying to make. The general overall concenus was that he was between 5 and 10. and after one game where he palyed a great COLLEGE
game they annoit him the King of the draft. I just dont buy it people were drooling over Vick and if you ask me he hasnt lived up to the hype. I just see the same thing. In that game he did not beat USC with his arm. He did it with his feet . In the NFL he will not be able to beat teams with his feet.

Winwin · 01-08-2006, 07:06 PM

Im not saying that he can't but I don't know if VY can make the nessecary throws.

i know he can because i've watched him play. as has all the people that are placing him as the best player in the draft. one game hasn't changed my mind, the leadership and greatness he has shown his entire career at texas, playing with a far less talented team than the classless joke leinart. leinart the party animal, while vince was getting his teammates to bond during the offseason.

sarge06 · 01-08-2006, 07:07 PM

sorry meant 12th nto112th

Winwin · 01-08-2006, 07:09 PM

Hey win Im sure that I could pull out things that had him at 112 or 13. Thats not the point I was trying to make. The general overall concenus was that he was between 5 and 10. and after one game where he palyed a great COLLEGE
game they annoit him the King of the draft. I just dont buy it people were drooling over Vick and if you ask me he hasnt lived up to the hype. I just see the same thing. In that game he did not beat USC with his arm. He did it with his feet . In the NFL he will not be able to beat teams with his feet.

first off atlanta is always in the top 5 (in nfl)in possible superbowl participants with vick. ya'll didn't want brooks, don't want to even give mcphearson a chance and you don't want young? and you don't like vick? "wow" what is the same here?

sarge06 · 01-08-2006, 07:10 PM

Im tired of hearing how classless Linehart is and how classy VY is.

He showed alot of class at the Hiesman presentation when Bush beat him out for the award. But noone talks about that. I have watched him too and I havent seen the throws. What was the deeps throw he completed in the Rose Bowl?

sarge06 · 01-08-2006, 07:11 PM

first off atlanta is always in the top 5

Where are they now?

Milians · 01-08-2006, 07:12 PM

Young has been on the NFL's radar since he got to Texas. Kiper has been calling Young and Brady Quinn the top two junior QB's for most of the season. Young has been "top ten whenever he comes out" since last year. Most people said he needed another year in school to work on his mechanics and ability to read coverage. He has mainly been a "one read then scramble" QB for most of his career. Of course his stock will never be higher than it is now. He improved his passing tremendously since last year. With good coaching, he should only get better. He may as well come out this year and get professional coaching. The longer you stay in college the longer the media and scouts have to pick you apart and find supposed "weaknesses." Look at the way people are ripping on Leinart. Last year most of the people on this board would have loved to draft Leinart. Now the general sentiment seems to be he is "classless, spoiled and over-rated."

CheramieIII · 01-08-2006, 07:14 PM

I'm just going to say I would rather have Hawk and some defense than Leinhart and having to wait another year or two. Get a veteran QB and let AMAC or another QB in the draft learn for a year or two but with the defense in place

01-08-2006, 07:03 PM	#41
Winwin 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 332	Hey Win that ones kinda old. Go to fantasy football toolbox and the selection thats marked other mock drafts and there are a bunch of updated ones there. thanks cheramie, but i purposely got old stuff. to show how vince was thought of prior to the game.
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01-08-2006, 07:06 PM	#44
Winwin 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 332	Im not saying that he can't but I don't know if VY can make the nessecary throws. i know he can because i've watched him play. as has all the people that are placing him as the best player in the draft. one game hasn't changed my mind, the leadership and greatness he has shown his entire career at texas, playing with a far less talented team than the classless joke leinart. leinart the party animal, while vince was getting his teammates to bond during the offseason.
Winwin 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 332

01-08-2006, 07:09 PM	#46
Winwin 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 332	Hey win Im sure that I could pull out things that had him at 112 or 13. Thats not the point I was trying to make. The general overall concenus was that he was between 5 and 10. and after one game where he palyed a great COLLEGE game they annoit him the King of the draft. I just dont buy it people were drooling over Vick and if you ask me he hasnt lived up to the hype. I just see the same thing. In that game he did not beat USC with his arm. He did it with his feet . In the NFL he will not be able to beat teams with his feet. first off atlanta is always in the top 5 (in nfl)in possible superbowl participants with vick. ya'll didn't want brooks, don't want to even give mcphearson a chance and you don't want young? and you don't like vick? "wow" what is the same here?
Winwin 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 332

01-08-2006, 07:12 PM	#49
Milians Registered Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 81	Young has been on the NFL's radar since he got to Texas. Kiper has been calling Young and Brady Quinn the top two junior QB's for most of the season. Young has been "top ten whenever he comes out" since last year. Most people said he needed another year in school to work on his mechanics and ability to read coverage. He has mainly been a "one read then scramble" QB for most of his career. Of course his stock will never be higher than it is now. He improved his passing tremendously since last year. With good coaching, he should only get better. He may as well come out this year and get professional coaching. The longer you stay in college the longer the media and scouts have to pick you apart and find supposed "weaknesses." Look at the way people are ripping on Leinart. Last year most of the people on this board would have loved to draft Leinart. Now the general sentiment seems to be he is "classless, spoiled and over-rated."
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01-08-2006, 07:04 PM	#42
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Got ya!

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sarge06 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Denham Springs, LA Posts: 212	Hey win Im sure that I could pull out things that had him at 112 or 13. Thats not the point I was trying to make. The general overall concenus was that he was between 5 and 10. and after one game where he palyed a great COLLEGE game they annoit him the King of the draft. I just dont buy it people were drooling over Vick and if you ask me he hasnt lived up to the hype. I just see the same thing. In that game he did not beat USC with his arm. He did it with his feet . In the NFL he will not be able to beat teams with his feet.

01-08-2006, 07:07 PM	#45
sarge06 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Denham Springs, LA Posts: 212	sorry meant 12th nto112th

01-08-2006, 07:10 PM	#47
sarge06 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Denham Springs, LA Posts: 212	Im tired of hearing how classless Linehart is and how classy VY is. He showed alot of class at the Hiesman presentation when Bush beat him out for the award. But noone talks about that. I have watched him too and I havent seen the throws. What was the deeps throw he completed in the Rose Bowl?

01-08-2006, 07:11 PM	#48
sarge06 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Denham Springs, LA Posts: 212	first off atlanta is always in the top 5 Where are they now?

01-08-2006, 07:14 PM	#50
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	I'm just going to say I would rather have Hawk and some defense than Leinhart and having to wait another year or two. Get a veteran QB and let AMAC or another QB in the draft learn for a year or two but with the defense in place