Correcting the offense

pakowitz · 01-11-2006, 11:16 AM

So if we take a QB, take one that has been in a spread option shotgun system, which NO NFL TEAM RUNS, and wait for3 years for him to develop, with no veteranin front of him, instead of taking a QB who is NFL ready NOW.

Y not? the rest of our team isnt "NFL ready" half these guys should be out the league... our oline is terrible.. our Dline cant stop the run, our LBs suck all the way around, our WRs cant catch, our RB cant hit the hole. but hell lets take a qb who is ready now cuz u say so.....

saintswhodi · 01-11-2006, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

hey whodi Sounds like he does work in the front office to me

LMAO!!! Nice.

saintswhodi · 01-11-2006, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

You're not going to fix the O line with one pick. You take Young if he falls to 2 or Bush then you address the line and WR along with the D. Fellas you have 2 options here 1. REBUILD drafting Young means you are rebuilding and honestly that is EXACTLY what we need. 2. Getting Bush means keeping brooks and Deuce and revamping the line and D.

So you can rebuild with Young, but not with Leinart, who is more NFL ready? Thanks for playing.

saintswhodi · 01-11-2006, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by pakowitz

So if we take a QB, take one that has been in a spread option shotgun system, which NO NFL TEAM RUNS, and wait for3 years for him to develop, with no veteranin front of him, instead of taking a QB who is NFL ready NOW.

Y not? the rest of our team isnt "NFL ready" half these guys should be out the league... our oline is terrible.. our Dline cant stop the run, our LBs suck all the way around, our WRs cant catch, our RB cant hit the hole. but hell lets take a qb who is ready now cuz u say so.....

I don't say so, every scout, analyst, and media guy who has ever seen him play says so. This is what I mean about getting a clue. If you take your blinders off, and read what people say about the guy, instead of just rejecting everything, maybe you can be partially informed. So your answer for an undisciplined team with half the players not "NFL ready" in your own words, is to take ANOTHER not NFL ready player? Do you read this stuff before you post it? Youcan't.

hagan714 · 01-11-2006, 12:06 PM

Why is everyone here so gun hoo on one pick in round 1,2 ? did I miss Something? Are we in the playoffs next year and not have a good pick in next year's draft? We will have home field advantage all of next year? Come on. we will not do great next year. But we may not be sitting at 2 with so much control next year. I think 4 good players on day one will benifit us more in the long run than 1 great and 1 good and call it a day. tell me how we can do it. with just 2 picks unless we are going to accept a 3 to 5 years of rebuilding and at the least one more coaching change. Benson will not open the wallet to avoid it.

TheDeuce · 01-11-2006, 01:05 PM

well if u have been listening from the beginning... ive been saying draft young if the texans draft bush.. but if they draft young then i want us to draft bush....how hard is that....

From the beginning of what? Maybe another thread? I have other things to do in my life so I don't spend my entire day reading the site (even though I wouldn't mind doing so). In this thread you have said nothing about Vince Young, the Texans, or anything else besides how badly Deuce sucks. It's hard for me to understand it when you start talking about a point made in a completely different thread. How hard is that?

Euphoria · 01-11-2006, 01:24 PM

I wouldn't draft Leinart. I think there are better players than he is and its worth trading down if you can't get Young.

pakowitz · 01-11-2006, 01:29 PM

im sorry for not repeating myself over and over again in every single thread....

pakowitz · 01-11-2006, 01:30 PM

as a moderator i dont have time to read every single thread either but i do glance over everyone... to make sure things stay in check....

pakowitz · 01-11-2006, 01:41 PM

Omar Jacobs, QB Bowling Green
Projected: 2nd round
Good or bad move? There was talk before the season of Jacobs being on the verge of being a better pro prospect than Matt Leinart. He was dinged up and didn't put up the numbers he did in 2004, but he still rocked when healthy. He needs work on his throwing motion and the scouts have cooled on his overall skills, but he's accurate enough to get at least a few offensive coordinators excited about his potential

01-11-2006, 11:30 AM	#22
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by hagan714 hey whodi Sounds like he does work in the front office to me LMAO!!! Nice.

01-11-2006, 11:30 AM	#23
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by Euphoria You're not going to fix the O line with one pick. You take Young if he falls to 2 or Bush then you address the line and WR along with the D. Fellas you have 2 options here 1. REBUILD drafting Young means you are rebuilding and honestly that is EXACTLY what we need. 2. Getting Bush means keeping brooks and Deuce and revamping the line and D. So you can rebuild with Young, but not with Leinart, who is more NFL ready? Thanks for playing.

01-11-2006, 11:33 AM	#24
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by pakowitz So if we take a QB, take one that has been in a spread option shotgun system, which NO NFL TEAM RUNS, and wait for3 years for him to develop, with no veteranin front of him, instead of taking a QB who is NFL ready NOW. Y not? the rest of our team isnt "NFL ready" half these guys should be out the league... our oline is terrible.. our Dline cant stop the run, our LBs suck all the way around, our WRs cant catch, our RB cant hit the hole. but hell lets take a qb who is ready now cuz u say so..... I don't say so, every scout, analyst, and media guy who has ever seen him play says so. This is what I mean about getting a clue. If you take your blinders off, and read what people say about the guy, instead of just rejecting everything, maybe you can be partially informed. So your answer for an undisciplined team with half the players not "NFL ready" in your own words, is to take ANOTHER not NFL ready player? Do you read this stuff before you post it? Youcan't.

01-11-2006, 12:06 PM	#25
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Why is everyone here so gun hoo on one pick in round 1,2 ? did I miss Something? Are we in the playoffs next year and not have a good pick in next year's draft? We will have home field advantage all of next year? Come on. we will not do great next year. But we may not be sitting at 2 with so much control next year. I think 4 good players on day one will benifit us more in the long run than 1 great and 1 good and call it a day. tell me how we can do it. with just 2 picks unless we are going to accept a 3 to 5 years of rebuilding and at the least one more coaching change. Benson will not open the wallet to avoid it.
	"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins

01-11-2006, 01:05 PM	#26
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	well if u have been listening from the beginning... ive been saying draft young if the texans draft bush.. but if they draft young then i want us to draft bush....how hard is that.... From the beginning of what? Maybe another thread? I have other things to do in my life so I don't spend my entire day reading the site (even though I wouldn't mind doing so). In this thread you have said nothing about Vince Young, the Texans, or anything else besides how badly Deuce sucks. It's hard for me to understand it when you start talking about a point made in a completely different thread. How hard is that?
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01-11-2006, 11:16 AM	#21
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	So if we take a QB, take one that has been in a spread option shotgun system, which NO NFL TEAM RUNS, and wait for3 years for him to develop, with no veteranin front of him, instead of taking a QB who is NFL ready NOW. Y not? the rest of our team isnt "NFL ready" half these guys should be out the league... our oline is terrible.. our Dline cant stop the run, our LBs suck all the way around, our WRs cant catch, our RB cant hit the hole. but hell lets take a qb who is ready now cuz u say so.....

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01-11-2006, 01:24 PM	#27
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	I wouldn't draft Leinart. I think there are better players than he is and its worth trading down if you can't get Young.

01-11-2006, 01:29 PM	#28
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	im sorry for not repeating myself over and over again in every single thread....

01-11-2006, 01:30 PM	#29
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	as a moderator i dont have time to read every single thread either but i do glance over everyone... to make sure things stay in check....

01-11-2006, 01:41 PM	#30
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Omar Jacobs, QB Bowling Green Projected: 2nd round Good or bad move? There was talk before the season of Jacobs being on the verge of being a better pro prospect than Matt Leinart. He was dinged up and didn't put up the numbers he did in 2004, but he still rocked when healthy. He needs work on his throwing motion and the scouts have cooled on his overall skills, but he's accurate enough to get at least a few offensive coordinators excited about his potential