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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by pakowitz i figured out that my trade scenerio would be way over valued for us... a more likely scenerio would be our first and our 4th for their first 2nd and first next year... 2708 pts - ...

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Old 01-19-2006, 01:20 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by pakowitz
i figured out that my trade scenerio would be way over valued for us...
a more likely scenerio would be
our first and our 4th for their first 2nd and first next year...
2708 pts - 2810 pts
or

our first for their 1st and 2nd and 3rd this year, and 2nd next year
2600 pts - 2645 pts pretty close...
I would think that those numbers are just starting points. Shouldn't those numbers be dependent on overall consensus of a player's worth???? If Bush were at #2 this year, wouldn't that be worth more than the average #2 overall pick??? If that is the case, we should be able to ask of more from other teams.
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Old 01-19-2006, 01:28 PM   #22
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i would say yes... but it would depend on the team who wants him and who else wants that player as well and what everyone is offering...the only teams i see in that general area wanting leinert would be Oakland maybe tennessee but i dont see them offering for a trade b/c they will take young just as easily...
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Old 01-19-2006, 03:05 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by GoldenTomb
Originally Posted by pakowitz
i figured out that my trade scenerio would be way over valued for us...
a more likely scenerio would be
our first and our 4th for their first 2nd and first next year...
2708 pts - 2810 pts
or

our first for their 1st and 2nd and 3rd this year, and 2nd next year
2600 pts - 2645 pts pretty close...
I would think that those numbers are just starting points. Shouldn't those numbers be dependent on overall consensus of a player's worth???? If Bush were at #2 this year, wouldn't that be worth more than the average #2 overall pick??? If that is the case, we should be able to ask of more from other teams.
I would hope that the player available would play some part as to the value, but usually, I think the figure is somewhere between 75-80% of all NFL teams use this value chart when contemplating trades.

Obviously Bush would command more than any other player in this draft, but I don't think there's too much of a drop-off with Young and Leinart, as there are always teams that are looking for the next great franchise QB.

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Old 01-19-2006, 03:42 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by Winwin
with the #2 pick the saints trade with the oakland raiders. raiders are on the clock. saints get oaklands 1st round pick 7th overall, 2nd round pick, 4th round pick in the 2006 draft along with a conditional pick in 2007.

with the 7th overall selection, the saints select.

1)Jay Cutler-QB Vanderbilt

2) Claude Wroten- DT LSU

2) obtain from Oakland-Bobby Carpenter-LB Ohio State

2) saints trade the 4th obtain from Oakland, and their 3rd round pick for Thomas Howard LB-UTEP.

the rest of the picks involves offensiveline and special teams.(skyler green in the 3rd with a conditional pick).
Yeah thats a great idea
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Old 01-19-2006, 07:42 PM   #25
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cutler better have a stellar senior bowl and combine if he wants to be picked that high. or hope that some team is feeling incredibly lucky. cutler may turn out to be good, but right now he does not warrant anything inside the top 20.
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