Hidden Agenda of NFL- Get Saints Out Soon

saintswhodi · 02-10-2006, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by Cassady37

So you make your point by talking ignorance?? What, are you Billy's twin?? I never ask to be personally attacked by an obviously mentally and socially challenged closet-bully. I choose to be optimistic you chose to be an ignorance-spouting Saint's fan wannabe. I said the problem has existed for the last 50 years , with relocation and selling the dome out and market shares being the same crap spouted since before I can remember. Katrina didn't do anything to speed the process, it's always existed. This next few years are no different than any other year Benson has owned the team. If you want to talk football, talk football, I don't expect to be personally insulted by anyone, anywhere.

Actually, you choose to be ignorant from Tenn, and ignore the problem, and I choose to trumpet loud and clear that we damn well better be showing up en masse this season to keep the team in New Orleans. If we listen to you, we really have nothing to worry about, and we can just go about business as usual. And how am I bullying you? Cause you wanna play Johnny sunshine with no facts while I quote the up to date status, as well as the pre Katrina status, of Benson and the league's intent in regards to the Saints? I don't give a flip about you feeling personally insulted. Don't speak to me if you are gonna start crying. But don't try to make snide remarks and back-handed comments and then act like you are Polly-Anna. I'm not the one to play that game. Go twist your pony tails with someone else if you can't handle it.

Cassady37 · 02-10-2006, 11:36 AM

Thank you. You just made MY point exactly. From the comfort of you bedroom you talk like a real bad-*ss as do so many other closet-bullies. I'm sorry that you're life is so meaningless that you can't talk without being insulting. I, for one, will be at the Saint's first home game and then you can back up that mouth of yours face-to-face. I do not like people insulting my state or my intelligence because they can't make a point without speaking garbage. But do not mistake my intelligent, optimistic demeanor for that of a pony-tailed pollyanna because I assure you, show up on the 24th and we WILL take care of the personal insults you don't give a flip about. And if for one second you think I'm in the least bit kidding I'll see you in N.O. to wipe the smile from your lips.

saintswhodi · 02-10-2006, 11:47 AM

Wait, wait, wait. I'm ignorant, yet you wanna get physical off an INTERNET argument? Homie, if that's how it is, you damn sure right we can take it to the gutter. Noone on any forum could get me that wound up, but if you are that sensitive to where you wanna make it an outside the forum issue, so be it. I will be seeing you the 24th, and we will see what's what then. No more need for words. If that's where you wanna take it, you found your man. Believe that.

Cassady37 · 02-10-2006, 11:54 AM

Word.

FatiusJeebs · 02-10-2006, 01:15 PM

I'm feelin the heat in this thread...I'm down for some trash talk....;0) Seriously though....like I posted already.....I think New Orleans has enough under its belt to attract new businesses and revitalize. GET RID OF YOUR DIRTY A@# POLITICIANS!!!!!

xan · 02-10-2006, 02:41 PM

the NFL makes most of its money through its TV contracts, then ticket sales, then merchandising, then ancillaries like parking, concessions, etc. I believe (though I may be wrong and I can't find the link, but will look for it and post it later) that over 55% of NFL total revenues come from TV. Ticket sales account for about 25%. Classic 80/20 rule. With the Saints ticket prices being in the top 5% and having one of the larger indoor stadiums, Benson makes more than most. Add in the State subsidies, and Benson's got one if not the most profitable franchises just on those criteria. Where they lack is in the ancillaries. Profits on the margins sometimes do drive businesses. However, those ancillaries have a very high correlation to the success of the franchise. Winning drives merchandising, it drives concessions, parking, corporate endoresements/partnerships. FanNJ's point about the Jets' lack of attendance hurt all their ancillaries, as merchandising, parking, concessions, etc., were all way down this year and they are sold out for the next 20 years. The Cardinals are in one of the most desireable markets and get outdrawn by women's high school soccer because they've just sucked (among other reasons).

If the idea is to determine viability, which I think is a rather fatuous idea given the rather uniform distribution of the NFL right now (revenue and geographic), give the fans a winner. Maybe someone here has an idea on how to field one?

CheramieIII · 02-10-2006, 07:31 PM

This whole post is ignorant. Ask around about where i'm from, then get back at me. You will look like the tool you sound like. But just to help you along:

Hey Whodi I know exactly where you live now and you know that was what I was saying. Tool, that's the best you got? Your sad dude, real sad.

CheramieIII · 02-10-2006, 07:34 PM

Hey Whodi, how come you didn't answer any of the questions I asked? I guess your way of explaining it is just calling some names and claiming everyone else in the thread is ignorant. Keep up the good work.

JOESAM2002 · 02-11-2006, 06:17 AM

If you two are gonna fight, I'm gonna sell tickets. You guys need to chill.

CHACHING · 02-11-2006, 08:43 AM

What the hell is going on???
I'm gone for a couple of days and the whole place is in chaos.
I'm a pretty good "cut man" if one of you need my services....
ya'll play nice...hahahahaha.....

02-10-2006, 11:15 AM	#21
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by Cassady37 So you make your point by talking ignorance?? What, are you Billy's twin?? I never ask to be personally attacked by an obviously mentally and socially challenged closet-bully. I choose to be optimistic you chose to be an ignorance-spouting Saint's fan wannabe. I said the problem has existed for the last 50 years , with relocation and selling the dome out and market shares being the same crap spouted since before I can remember. Katrina didn't do anything to speed the process, it's always existed. This next few years are no different than any other year Benson has owned the team. If you want to talk football, talk football, I don't expect to be personally insulted by anyone, anywhere. Actually, you choose to be ignorant from Tenn, and ignore the problem, and I choose to trumpet loud and clear that we damn well better be showing up en masse this season to keep the team in New Orleans. If we listen to you, we really have nothing to worry about, and we can just go about business as usual. And how am I bullying you? Cause you wanna play Johnny sunshine with no facts while I quote the up to date status, as well as the pre Katrina status, of Benson and the league's intent in regards to the Saints? I don't give a flip about you feeling personally insulted. Don't speak to me if you are gonna start crying. But don't try to make snide remarks and back-handed comments and then act like you are Polly-Anna. I'm not the one to play that game. Go twist your pony tails with someone else if you can't handle it.

02-10-2006, 01:15 PM	#25
FatiusJeebs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 973	I'm feelin the heat in this thread...I'm down for some trash talk....;0) Seriously though....like I posted already.....I think New Orleans has enough under its belt to attract new businesses and revitalize. GET RID OF YOUR DIRTY A@# POLITICIANS!!!!!
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02-10-2006, 11:36 AM	#22
Cassady37 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Kilgore, Texas Posts: 337	Thank you. You just made MY point exactly. From the comfort of you bedroom you talk like a real bad-*ss as do so many other closet-bullies. I'm sorry that you're life is so meaningless that you can't talk without being insulting. I, for one, will be at the Saint's first home game and then you can back up that mouth of yours face-to-face. I do not like people insulting my state or my intelligence because they can't make a point without speaking garbage. But do not mistake my intelligent, optimistic demeanor for that of a pony-tailed pollyanna because I assure you, show up on the 24th and we WILL take care of the personal insults you don't give a flip about. And if for one second you think I'm in the least bit kidding I'll see you in N.O. to wipe the smile from your lips.

02-10-2006, 11:47 AM	#23
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Wait, wait, wait. I'm ignorant, yet you wanna get physical off an INTERNET argument? Homie, if that's how it is, you damn sure right we can take it to the gutter. Noone on any forum could get me that wound up, but if you are that sensitive to where you wanna make it an outside the forum issue, so be it. I will be seeing you the 24th, and we will see what's what then. No more need for words. If that's where you wanna take it, you found your man. Believe that.

02-10-2006, 11:54 AM	#24
Cassady37 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Kilgore, Texas Posts: 337	Word.

02-10-2006, 02:41 PM	#26
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,368 Blog Entries: 34	the NFL makes most of its money through its TV contracts, then ticket sales, then merchandising, then ancillaries like parking, concessions, etc. I believe (though I may be wrong and I can't find the link, but will look for it and post it later) that over 55% of NFL total revenues come from TV. Ticket sales account for about 25%. Classic 80/20 rule. With the Saints ticket prices being in the top 5% and having one of the larger indoor stadiums, Benson makes more than most. Add in the State subsidies, and Benson's got one if not the most profitable franchises just on those criteria. Where they lack is in the ancillaries. Profits on the margins sometimes do drive businesses. However, those ancillaries have a very high correlation to the success of the franchise. Winning drives merchandising, it drives concessions, parking, corporate endoresements/partnerships. FanNJ's point about the Jets' lack of attendance hurt all their ancillaries, as merchandising, parking, concessions, etc., were all way down this year and they are sold out for the next 20 years. The Cardinals are in one of the most desireable markets and get outdrawn by women's high school soccer because they've just sucked (among other reasons). If the idea is to determine viability, which I think is a rather fatuous idea given the rather uniform distribution of the NFL right now (revenue and geographic), give the fans a winner. Maybe someone here has an idea on how to field one?

02-10-2006, 07:31 PM	#27
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,480 Blog Entries: 3	This whole post is ignorant. Ask around about where i'm from, then get back at me. You will look like the tool you sound like. But just to help you along: Hey Whodi I know exactly where you live now and you know that was what I was saying. Tool, that's the best you got? Your sad dude, real sad.

02-10-2006, 07:34 PM	#28
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,480 Blog Entries: 3	Hey Whodi, how come you didn't answer any of the questions I asked? I guess your way of explaining it is just calling some names and claiming everyone else in the thread is ignorant. Keep up the good work.

02-11-2006, 06:17 AM	#29
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	If you two are gonna fight, I'm gonna sell tickets. You guys need to chill.

02-11-2006, 08:43 AM	#30
CHACHING 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Golden State Posts: 830	What the hell is going on??? I'm gone for a couple of days and the whole place is in chaos. I'm a pretty good "cut man" if one of you need my services.... ya'll play nice...hahahahaha.....