One more thing on Brees

mighty12 · 03-12-2006, 04:13 PM

Alot of you are stating that it is only fair to be questionable about Brees due to his injury. Let me see if I have this right..........If Peyton Manning were coming off of the same surgery, and healing quicker than first thought, and he was at the end of his contract and wanted to test free agency would this discussion even be going on? I know that some would say yes, and we would never know the truth unless it happened, but I think that people would me screaming their heads off for the Saints to sign him. He is a local boy, and is very intelligent. He knows the game VERY well, and is a superb leader. I am not going to even try to compare Brees and Manning because you can't, but I will say that Brees has some of the same qualities as Manning. He is smart, he is a good leader and knows the game of football. So, I just think that you guys are using his injury as a crutch to the fact that you want someone who has more of a media staple.

TheDeuce · 03-12-2006, 04:22 PM

First of all, like you said, Peyton Manning is a lot better than Drew Brees. But even if they were the same, talent-wise, you'd be mentally challenged not be a little wary of signing ANY QB coming off a major surgery to his throwing shoulder. Take Daunte Culpepper for example. Here's a guy who had a major knee injury. He's asking for big money. There are now only a couple of teams that are interested in him (Dolphins, Cards). Before the injury, half the teams in this league would have been bidding for this guy, but injuries in the NFL are scary and can ruin a franchise for years.

wheelman · 03-12-2006, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

First of all, like you said, Peyton Manning is a lot better than Drew Brees. But even if they were the same, talent-wise, you'd be mentally challenged not be a little wary of signing ANY QB coming off a major surgery to his throwing shoulder. Take Daunte Culpepper for example. Here's a guy who had a major knee injury. He's asking for big money. There are now only a couple of teams that are interested in him (Dolphins, Cards). Before the injury, half the teams in this league would have been bidding for this guy, but injuries in the NFL are scary and can ruin a franchise for years.

Are you trying to imply something?

mighty12 · 03-12-2006, 04:27 PM

There is one problem with bringing Culpepper into the equation, not only does he have an injury going against him but he is not recovering as quickly as anticipated which shows it may be more serious than expected, also he has had a few recent off the field problems. Also unlike Brees his stats have been falling alittle while Brees' has be getting better. I just really don't get it. I know you have good intentions about this Deuce, but no one has given me anything that will change my mind. You are however entitled to your opinion, and no one can take that from you. God Bless America for that.

TheDeuce · 03-12-2006, 04:27 PM

Are you trying to imply something?

Implying what? If you ignore a major injury to a player you're trying to sign, there's something wrong with you

Tobias-Reiper · 03-12-2006, 04:29 PM

..first off, you don't need to start a new thread every time you have a tought on a subject that's already being discussed, just so everyone can see your comment... reminds me of... nah.. it can't be... but I digress...

...second, you ARE comparing Brees to Manning... you are asking if it were Peyton instead of Drew in the same situation.... you put it best:
Manning is a local boy - Brees isn't
Manning very intelligent - Brees is no dummy, but not the thinking QB Peyton is
Manning knows the game VERY well - Brees again, no dummy, but not the student of the game Peyton is...
Manning is a superb leader - Brees, not Brooks, but not George Patton either
... add to that:
Manning is going to the HoF - Brees not sure if he's going to the Pro Bowl again - which, BTW, PB means diddley poo -...

...so, I would say that, considering all of the above, while there will be some discussion as to whether Manning's shoulder would hold, what Manning brings to the table would weight heavily into the general consensus and I think peolpe would be quicker to accept the risk of having an injured future HoF'er than having an injured 2 good-years-so-far QB..

spkb25 · 03-12-2006, 04:32 PM

do you guys think we will here toinight or tomorrow about drew?

wheelman · 03-12-2006, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

Are you trying to imply something?

Implying what? If you ignore a major injury to a player you're trying to sign, there's something wrong with you

No one is ignoring it Deuce. It's just that we are not as sceptical about his recovery. And sorry if I read too deeply into that post.

mighty12 · 03-12-2006, 04:42 PM

TR - well let me see your reply has many flaws and I have ACTUALLY read it........I stated VERY clearly that I was NOT comparing Brees to Manning. Did I not make that clear enough when I stated "I am not even going to compare Brees and Manning because you can't" Was that not clear enough. Second of all I made a new thread on Bress NOT to get to the front of the forum, because any reply to a post will put it at the top of the forum, I did it because it IS a new topic on Brees. It is a topic on how others would feel if it were someone with more media hype. And then you made my point. You would have a different opinion. So it if isn't his injury that scares you what is it? Is it the fact that he is actually a great QB coming to the Saints. Are you that stupid, hey you attacked me personally so it only felt right to ask. You are the epitome of what I am warning against. Just because Manning is a local boy, He is smarter, He is possibly a better leader, so if he were to get injured the same way he would come back better than Brees would. Does that not sound hypocritical?

AllSaints · 03-12-2006, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

do you guys think we will here toinight or tomorrow about drew?

I hope we hear something.... hopfully tonight....

03-12-2006, 04:13 PM	#1
mighty12 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 980 Blog Entries: 1	One more thing on Brees Alot of you are stating that it is only fair to be questionable about Brees due to his injury. Let me see if I have this right..........If Peyton Manning were coming off of the same surgery, and healing quicker than first thought, and he was at the end of his contract and wanted to test free agency would this discussion even be going on? I know that some would say yes, and we would never know the truth unless it happened, but I think that people would me screaming their heads off for the Saints to sign him. He is a local boy, and is very intelligent. He knows the game VERY well, and is a superb leader. I am not going to even try to compare Brees and Manning because you can't, but I will say that Brees has some of the same qualities as Manning. He is smart, he is a good leader and knows the game of football. So, I just think that you guys are using his injury as a crutch to the fact that you want someone who has more of a media staple.

03-12-2006, 04:22 PM	#2
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	RE: One more thing on Brees First of all, like you said, Peyton Manning is a lot better than Drew Brees. But even if they were the same, talent-wise, you'd be mentally challenged not be a little wary of signing ANY QB coming off a major surgery to his throwing shoulder. Take Daunte Culpepper for example. Here's a guy who had a major knee injury. He's asking for big money. There are now only a couple of teams that are interested in him (Dolphins, Cards). Before the injury, half the teams in this league would have been bidding for this guy, but injuries in the NFL are scary and can ruin a franchise for years.
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03-12-2006, 04:26 PM	#3
wheelman Sammich Lover Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 682	Re: RE: One more thing on Brees Originally Posted by TheDeuce First of all, like you said, Peyton Manning is a lot better than Drew Brees. But even if they were the same, talent-wise, you'd be mentally challenged not be a little wary of signing ANY QB coming off a major surgery to his throwing shoulder. Take Daunte Culpepper for example. Here's a guy who had a major knee injury. He's asking for big money. There are now only a couple of teams that are interested in him (Dolphins, Cards). Before the injury, half the teams in this league would have been bidding for this guy, but injuries in the NFL are scary and can ruin a franchise for years. Are you trying to imply something?
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03-12-2006, 04:27 PM	#4
mighty12 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 980 Blog Entries: 1	RE: One more thing on Brees There is one problem with bringing Culpepper into the equation, not only does he have an injury going against him but he is not recovering as quickly as anticipated which shows it may be more serious than expected, also he has had a few recent off the field problems. Also unlike Brees his stats have been falling alittle while Brees' has be getting better. I just really don't get it. I know you have good intentions about this Deuce, but no one has given me anything that will change my mind. You are however entitled to your opinion, and no one can take that from you. God Bless America for that.

03-12-2006, 04:27 PM	#5
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	RE: Re: RE: One more thing on Brees Are you trying to imply something? Implying what? If you ignore a major injury to a player you're trying to sign, there's something wrong with you
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03-12-2006, 04:29 PM	#6
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	RE: One more thing on Brees ..first off, you don't need to start a new thread every time you have a tought on a subject that's already being discussed, just so everyone can see your comment... reminds me of... nah.. it can't be... but I digress... ...second, you ARE comparing Brees to Manning... you are asking if it were Peyton instead of Drew in the same situation.... you put it best: Manning is a local boy - Brees isn't Manning very intelligent - Brees is no dummy, but not the thinking QB Peyton is Manning knows the game VERY well - Brees again, no dummy, but not the student of the game Peyton is... Manning is a superb leader - Brees, not Brooks, but not George Patton either ... add to that: Manning is going to the HoF - Brees not sure if he's going to the Pro Bowl again - which, BTW, PB means diddley poo -... ...so, I would say that, considering all of the above, while there will be some discussion as to whether Manning's shoulder would hold, what Manning brings to the table would weight heavily into the general consensus and I think peolpe would be quicker to accept the risk of having an injured future HoF'er than having an injured 2 good-years-so-far QB..
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03-12-2006, 04:32 PM	#7
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	RE: One more thing on Brees do you guys think we will here toinight or tomorrow about drew?

03-12-2006, 04:34 PM	#8
wheelman Sammich Lover Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 682	Re: RE: Re: RE: One more thing on Brees Originally Posted by TheDeuce Are you trying to imply something? Implying what? If you ignore a major injury to a player you're trying to sign, there's something wrong with you No one is ignoring it Deuce. It's just that we are not as sceptical about his recovery. And sorry if I read too deeply into that post.
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03-12-2006, 04:42 PM	#9
mighty12 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 980 Blog Entries: 1	RE: One more thing on Brees TR - well let me see your reply has many flaws and I have ACTUALLY read it........I stated VERY clearly that I was NOT comparing Brees to Manning. Did I not make that clear enough when I stated "I am not even going to compare Brees and Manning because you can't" Was that not clear enough. Second of all I made a new thread on Bress NOT to get to the front of the forum, because any reply to a post will put it at the top of the forum, I did it because it IS a new topic on Brees. It is a topic on how others would feel if it were someone with more media hype. And then you made my point. You would have a different opinion. So it if isn't his injury that scares you what is it? Is it the fact that he is actually a great QB coming to the Saints. Are you that stupid, hey you attacked me personally so it only felt right to ask. You are the epitome of what I am warning against. Just because Manning is a local boy, He is smarter, He is possibly a better leader, so if he were to get injured the same way he would come back better than Brees would. Does that not sound hypocritical?

03-12-2006, 04:49 PM	#10
AllSaints Breakin Records Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Deville, Louisiana Posts: 2,167	Re: RE: One more thing on Brees Originally Posted by spkb25 do you guys think we will here toinight or tomorrow about drew? I hope we hear something.... hopfully tonight....