OK, SO NOW THE DEBATE BEGINS

TheDeuce · 03-14-2006, 05:32 PM

Here's my plan, which I've said in another post, but in case you didn't see it, here's what I'm feeling. Trade the #2 pick to the Jets. There should be somewhat of a frenzy among this section of the draft order because several teams really want a QB like Leinart. So, after this trade down acquiring a first rounder and a 2nd rounder, we select AJ Hawk with the first round pick, then Nick Mangold with our first 2nd rounder, and then another LB (HOward, Jackson, Hodge, etc) with the other 2nd round pick. I would like to take Brick because he is such a manchild, but I just don't think we can afford to neglect the LB position anymore like we've done for the past 10 years.

D_it_up · 03-14-2006, 08:03 PM

I'm definitely not for trading with the Broncos. Even though the idea of 2 first rounders sounds great on paper, the idea of not drafting one of the high profile draftees this year doesn't sit well with me. If we trade down, I would go no further than the 5th pick. With that, we'd still be able to get one of the big guys in the draft. I'd be perfectly fine with that.

WhoDatQB · 03-14-2006, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by BJSim

NYJets still have a reason to trade up... D-buck47 is right. Leinart's old OC Chow is at Tennessee so it'd be a perfect fit for them. So if NYJ wants Leinart they have to play ball.

Personally I'd like to see a trade with Denver (don't they have two draft picks this year?). Think about a trade down (yeah it's farther than you guys want) for two 1st rounders this year and one more next... four #1's in two years. That would be awesome. Plus we could always then package two of the four to move back up some.

===

You guys are forgetting there are quite a few teams that may need a QB other than NYJ and TEN. I have their possible started in parenthesis.

5 Green Bay Packers (Aaron Rodgers)
7 Oakland Raiders (?)
8 Buffalo Bills (I doubt it Losman came on string at the end)
9 Detroit Lions (Is Kitna the answer?)
10 Arizona Cardinals (Someone will be needed to throw and Kurt isn't long term)
11 St. Louis Rams (Jamie Martin and Bulger, they seem to get hurt a lot)

Depending on who we target and how many more selections we want we could easilt move into on of these spots, maybe Hawk Brick is still available, then getting another 2nd and possibly 3rd rounder. Come on take Brick grab one of the other LB's in the second(or two of them)

I know Brees would like to see the bookend tackles of Jamaal and the Brick in front of him. I know I would if I were him.

saintbuck · 03-14-2006, 08:27 PM

maybe one of those teams could take brooks off of our hands. god bless whomever that may be

WhoDatQB · 03-14-2006, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

Here's my plan, which I've said in another post, but in case you didn't see it, here's what I'm feeling. Trade the #2 pick to the Jets. There should be somewhat of a frenzy among this section of the draft order because several teams really want a QB like Leinart. So, after this trade down acquiring a first rounder and a 2nd rounder, we select AJ Hawk with the first round pick, then Nick Mangold with our first 2nd rounder, and then another LB (HOward, Jackson, Hodge, etc) with the other 2nd round pick. I would like to take Brick because he is such a manchild, but I just don't think we can afford to neglect the LB position anymore like we've done for the past 10 years.

==
We could trade with the Jets or Titans (get their 2nd) and trade with with Oakland or GB (depending upon if Favre retires) so Oakland can get VY or Cutler or so GB can and move past the Jets if we go with the Titans. There is so many great players in the top 8 or so of this draft that we could have numerous suitors wanting to move up. Personally I want Brick.

What is it with all the draft "experts" saying we should or will take M Williams? Am I the only person who thinks we are pretty set on DE's? I mean another would be great, but we have far more glaring needs. OL to protect Brees, and LB's to help the defense.

Tobias-Reiper · 03-14-2006, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by coastalkid

Why would the jets trade with us now? They know we aren't going to take leinart. If we trade our #1 it will have to be to someone later in the round.

... because the titans are sitting at #3 and Leinart's old OC is there...
... because the Raiders may want to trade for Leinart...
... because the Vikings may want to trade for Leinart...

spkb25 · 03-14-2006, 08:38 PM

i like hawk

zachsaints52 · 03-14-2006, 10:46 PM

Trade with Jets, get Brick in the first. Get two LB's in the 2nd, and sing Cory Raymer from Redskins. Line will be Brick, Jacox or Holland (did we resign him?), Raymer, Mayberry, and Brown..... Thats hella good. Dump Brooks somewhere for anything and just cut Gandy. The two LB's plus Fijuta and Fincher and Watson very good. We would need Will Allen too.... OMG I think we may have something

jergensl · 03-14-2006, 10:51 PM

i like your scenario deuce...i think it would be the perfect draft for the saints...i also like the thought of 2 dayton boys playing on the saints...there would be many more saints fans here in ohio if we landed hawk and mangold.

shonboy · 03-14-2006, 10:56 PM

u no what! im thinkin that houston will take de brick with the firts pik...huh now lets think about that for a sec.....sign drew and now with the #2 pik n.o. selects reggie bush...unless someone trades up, this could happen....finally somethin good happens in the bayou state....

03-14-2006, 05:32 PM	#21
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Here's my plan, which I've said in another post, but in case you didn't see it, here's what I'm feeling. Trade the #2 pick to the Jets. There should be somewhat of a frenzy among this section of the draft order because several teams really want a QB like Leinart. So, after this trade down acquiring a first rounder and a 2nd rounder, we select AJ Hawk with the first round pick, then Nick Mangold with our first 2nd rounder, and then another LB (HOward, Jackson, Hodge, etc) with the other 2nd round pick. I would like to take Brick because he is such a manchild, but I just don't think we can afford to neglect the LB position anymore like we've done for the past 10 years.
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03-14-2006, 08:24 PM	#23
WhoDatQB Boondock Saint Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: F***ing Atlanta Posts: 322	OK, SO NOW THE DEBATE BEGINS Originally Posted by BJSim NYJets still have a reason to trade up... D-buck47 is right. Leinart's old OC Chow is at Tennessee so it'd be a perfect fit for them. So if NYJ wants Leinart they have to play ball. Personally I'd like to see a trade with Denver (don't they have two draft picks this year?). Think about a trade down (yeah it's farther than you guys want) for two 1st rounders this year and one more next... four #1's in two years. That would be awesome. Plus we could always then package two of the four to move back up some. === You guys are forgetting there are quite a few teams that may need a QB other than NYJ and TEN. I have their possible started in parenthesis. 5 Green Bay Packers (Aaron Rodgers) 7 Oakland Raiders (?) 8 Buffalo Bills (I doubt it Losman came on string at the end) 9 Detroit Lions (Is Kitna the answer?) 10 Arizona Cardinals (Someone will be needed to throw and Kurt isn't long term) 11 St. Louis Rams (Jamie Martin and Bulger, they seem to get hurt a lot) Depending on who we target and how many more selections we want we could easilt move into on of these spots, maybe Hawk Brick is still available, then getting another 2nd and possibly 3rd rounder. Come on take Brick grab one of the other LB's in the second(or two of them) I know Brees would like to see the bookend tackles of Jamaal and the Brick in front of him. I know I would if I were him.

03-14-2006, 08:27 PM	#24
saintbuck 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mamou, LA. Posts: 313	RE: OK, SO NOW THE DEBATE BEGINS maybe one of those teams could take brooks off of our hands. god bless whomever that may be

03-14-2006, 08:31 PM	#25
WhoDatQB Boondock Saint Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: F***ing Atlanta Posts: 322	Originally Posted by TheDeuce Here's my plan, which I've said in another post, but in case you didn't see it, here's what I'm feeling. Trade the #2 pick to the Jets. There should be somewhat of a frenzy among this section of the draft order because several teams really want a QB like Leinart. So, after this trade down acquiring a first rounder and a 2nd rounder, we select AJ Hawk with the first round pick, then Nick Mangold with our first 2nd rounder, and then another LB (HOward, Jackson, Hodge, etc) with the other 2nd round pick. I would like to take Brick because he is such a manchild, but I just don't think we can afford to neglect the LB position anymore like we've done for the past 10 years. == We could trade with the Jets or Titans (get their 2nd) and trade with with Oakland or GB (depending upon if Favre retires) so Oakland can get VY or Cutler or so GB can and move past the Jets if we go with the Titans. There is so many great players in the top 8 or so of this draft that we could have numerous suitors wanting to move up. Personally I want Brick. What is it with all the draft "experts" saying we should or will take M Williams? Am I the only person who thinks we are pretty set on DE's? I mean another would be great, but we have far more glaring needs. OL to protect Brees, and LB's to help the defense.

03-14-2006, 08:35 PM	#26
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: RE: OK, SO NOW THE DEBATE BEGINS Originally Posted by coastalkid Why would the jets trade with us now? They know we aren't going to take leinart. If we trade our #1 it will have to be to someone later in the round. ... because the titans are sitting at #3 and Leinart's old OC is there... ... because the Raiders may want to trade for Leinart... ... because the Vikings may want to trade for Leinart...

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03-14-2006, 08:03 PM	#22
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	I'm definitely not for trading with the Broncos. Even though the idea of 2 first rounders sounds great on paper, the idea of not drafting one of the high profile draftees this year doesn't sit well with me. If we trade down, I would go no further than the 5th pick. With that, we'd still be able to get one of the big guys in the draft. I'd be perfectly fine with that.

03-14-2006, 08:38 PM	#27
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	RE: Re: RE: OK, SO NOW THE DEBATE BEGINS i like hawk

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zachsaints52 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Abingdon, Virginia Posts: 522	RE: Re: RE: OK, SO NOW THE DEBATE BEGINS Trade with Jets, get Brick in the first. Get two LB's in the 2nd, and sing Cory Raymer from Redskins. Line will be Brick, Jacox or Holland (did we resign him?), Raymer, Mayberry, and Brown..... Thats hella good. Dump Brooks somewhere for anything and just cut Gandy. The two LB's plus Fijuta and Fincher and Watson very good. We would need Will Allen too.... OMG I think we may have something

03-14-2006, 10:51 PM	#29
jergensl 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Belleview, FL Posts: 526	RE: Re: RE: OK, SO NOW THE DEBATE BEGINS i like your scenario deuce...i think it would be the perfect draft for the saints...i also like the thought of 2 dayton boys playing on the saints...there would be many more saints fans here in ohio if we landed hawk and mangold.

03-14-2006, 10:56 PM	#30
shonboy Registered Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 38	RE: Re: RE: OK, SO NOW THE DEBATE BEGINS u no what! im thinkin that houston will take de brick with the firts pik...huh now lets think about that for a sec.....sign drew and now with the #2 pik n.o. selects reggie bush...unless someone trades up, this could happen....finally somethin good happens in the bayou state....
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