Saints FA Ratings

TheDeuce · 03-27-2006, 11:25 AM

Just hatin', that's all it is....

saintbenny · 03-27-2006, 11:50 AM

We have great receivers,always have just no one to get them the ball.Now we have that and people are complaining. We dont need a miracle worker just an above average qb that can make good decisions.obviously Brees can do that are else he wouldnt have made it to the probowl. People need to stop complaining about him because he is a hell of a lot better than Brooks is are ever will be.Get us a healthy o-line and a healthy Duece and watch his smoke.

saintbuck · 03-27-2006, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

here we go hyping this guy... he isn't the savior... he will not win games for us, but he won't lose them very much for us either. He is above average at best, and had a great OL and the #1 RB behind him and lets not forget a pretty good damn D as well so... unless we get than happening here in NO as well don't expect much improvement unless the OL and D improve.

Everyone beware, we have another AB fan on the wrong site. This Black and Gold, not Black and Silver. You were close though.

FatiusJeebs · 03-27-2006, 01:20 PM

Hey....havin a group of players ranked in the 80's is not really that bad. As far as McKinnon...I'm not sure what he got but I'll say it again...the guys can hit as good as anybody and he's a very good run stopper. Although I understand the fact that we don't need the greatest O-Line on the planet....with Brees at the helm...it would really help to get some studs to protect Brees. I say this now without even seeing how Brees will perform once he returns. He may be psychologically shaken and he may not produce or he'll be as confident and as cocky as usual. But for the sake of his mental psyche....I think having a few studs on the o-line will simply make him feel....a bit more comfortable. 8)

saintbuck · 03-27-2006, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by FatiusJeebs

Hey....havin a group of players ranked in the 80's is not really that bad. As far as McKinnon...I'm not sure what he got but I'll say it again...the guys can hit as good as anybody and he's a very good run stopper. Although I understand the fact that we don't need the greatest O-Line on the planet....with Brees at the helm...it would really help to get some studs to protect Brees. I say this now without even seeing how Brees will perform once he returns. He may be psychologically shaken and he may not produce or he'll be as confident and as cocky as usual. But for the sake of his mental psyche....I think having a few studs on the o-line will simply make him feel....a bit more comfortable. 8)

I agree with you, take brick, and then mangold. That will give us the youngest and one of the top 5 offensive lines in the league. A good start on rebuilding a team with a brand new pro bowl QB.

xan · 03-27-2006, 01:40 PM

If you were Madden, how high a grade would you give a qb who's undergone reconstructive shoulder surgery on his throwing arm who had only 1.5 decent years?

I'd still draft Lienart, Brees has a high probablility of being a bust and one so immediately.

saintbuck · 03-27-2006, 01:43 PM

i'd draft Leinart just to dangle him in front of other teams for trades. If we draft right, we will have a kick ass line to protect our new golden boy.

TheDeuce · 03-27-2006, 02:09 PM

I'd still draft Lienart, Brees has a high probablility of being a bust and one so immediately.

A bust? How so? Only way I can see it is if the shoulder gets hurt again, but apparently he's further than expected in his rehab. He's proven that he is a Pro Bowl caliber QB, even with a pathetic line. The guy can just flat out play. He's a smart, energetic QB who is going to be the leader and the heart and soul of this offense, something that we have lacked for a LONG LONG LONG time.

xan · 03-27-2006, 02:42 PM

Deuce, I agree that Brees has had some game the last 1.5 years. It's all too likely that Brees won't be ready or that he won't pan out simply based on the type of injury. I watched Chad Pennington get injured the first time, then get reinjured worse the second time, and Brees was injured worse than Pennington. The Pennington camp said he was ahead of schedule, too, but he couldn't throw a sideline route or any pass over 20 yards with zip BEFORE his second injury. Maybe I'm a pessimist, but I'd rather have Lienart seeing a bit of history. Who's going to be the backup? AMac? I'm sitting on a turd that's got a better chance of winding up on a football field before AMac starts, he's not going to be ready for 2-3 years. Get Lienart and make them compete. At least there will be a fair chance a quality quarterback will take the field in 2006.

wheelman · 03-27-2006, 02:58 PM

I'm sitting on a turd that's got a better chance of winding up on a football field before AMac starts, he's not going to be ready for 2-3 years.

And you know this how?

03-27-2006, 11:25 AM	#11
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03-27-2006, 11:50 AM	#12
saintbenny Rookie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 22	RE: Re: RE: Saints FA Ratings We have great receivers,always have just no one to get them the ball.Now we have that and people are complaining. We dont need a miracle worker just an above average qb that can make good decisions.obviously Brees can do that are else he wouldnt have made it to the probowl. People need to stop complaining about him because he is a hell of a lot better than Brooks is are ever will be.Get us a healthy o-line and a healthy Duece and watch his smoke.
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03-27-2006, 11:59 AM	#13
saintbuck 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mamou, LA. Posts: 313	Re: RE: Saints FA Ratings Originally Posted by Euphoria here we go hyping this guy... he isn't the savior... he will not win games for us, but he won't lose them very much for us either. He is above average at best, and had a great OL and the #1 RB behind him and lets not forget a pretty good damn D as well so... unless we get than happening here in NO as well don't expect much improvement unless the OL and D improve. Everyone beware, we have another AB fan on the wrong site. This Black and Gold, not Black and Silver. You were close though.

03-27-2006, 01:20 PM	#14
FatiusJeebs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 973	RE: Re: RE: Saints FA Ratings Hey....havin a group of players ranked in the 80's is not really that bad. As far as McKinnon...I'm not sure what he got but I'll say it again...the guys can hit as good as anybody and he's a very good run stopper. Although I understand the fact that we don't need the greatest O-Line on the planet....with Brees at the helm...it would really help to get some studs to protect Brees. I say this now without even seeing how Brees will perform once he returns. He may be psychologically shaken and he may not produce or he'll be as confident and as cocky as usual. But for the sake of his mental psyche....I think having a few studs on the o-line will simply make him feel....a bit more comfortable. 8)
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03-27-2006, 01:25 PM	#15
saintbuck 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mamou, LA. Posts: 313	Re: RE: Re: RE: Saints FA Ratings Originally Posted by FatiusJeebs Hey....havin a group of players ranked in the 80's is not really that bad. As far as McKinnon...I'm not sure what he got but I'll say it again...the guys can hit as good as anybody and he's a very good run stopper. Although I understand the fact that we don't need the greatest O-Line on the planet....with Brees at the helm...it would really help to get some studs to protect Brees. I say this now without even seeing how Brees will perform once he returns. He may be psychologically shaken and he may not produce or he'll be as confident and as cocky as usual. But for the sake of his mental psyche....I think having a few studs on the o-line will simply make him feel....a bit more comfortable. 8) I agree with you, take brick, and then mangold. That will give us the youngest and one of the top 5 offensive lines in the league. A good start on rebuilding a team with a brand new pro bowl QB.

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03-27-2006, 01:40 PM	#16
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,371 Blog Entries: 34	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Saints FA Ratings If you were Madden, how high a grade would you give a qb who's undergone reconstructive shoulder surgery on his throwing arm who had only 1.5 decent years? I'd still draft Lienart, Brees has a high probablility of being a bust and one so immediately.

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saintbuck 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mamou, LA. Posts: 313	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Saints FA Ratings i'd draft Leinart just to dangle him in front of other teams for trades. If we draft right, we will have a kick ass line to protect our new golden boy.

03-27-2006, 02:09 PM	#18
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Saints FA Ratings I'd still draft Lienart, Brees has a high probablility of being a bust and one so immediately. A bust? How so? Only way I can see it is if the shoulder gets hurt again, but apparently he's further than expected in his rehab. He's proven that he is a Pro Bowl caliber QB, even with a pathetic line. The guy can just flat out play. He's a smart, energetic QB who is going to be the leader and the heart and soul of this offense, something that we have lacked for a LONG LONG LONG time.
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03-27-2006, 02:42 PM	#19
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,371 Blog Entries: 34	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Saints FA Ratings Deuce, I agree that Brees has had some game the last 1.5 years. It's all too likely that Brees won't be ready or that he won't pan out simply based on the type of injury. I watched Chad Pennington get injured the first time, then get reinjured worse the second time, and Brees was injured worse than Pennington. The Pennington camp said he was ahead of schedule, too, but he couldn't throw a sideline route or any pass over 20 yards with zip BEFORE his second injury. Maybe I'm a pessimist, but I'd rather have Lienart seeing a bit of history. Who's going to be the backup? AMac? I'm sitting on a turd that's got a better chance of winding up on a football field before AMac starts, he's not going to be ready for 2-3 years. Get Lienart and make them compete. At least there will be a fair chance a quality quarterback will take the field in 2006.

03-27-2006, 02:58 PM	#20
wheelman Sammich Lover Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 682	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Saints FA Ratings I'm sitting on a turd that's got a better chance of winding up on a football field before AMac starts, he's not going to be ready for 2-3 years. And you know this how?
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