Saints FA Ratings

jegirouard · 03-26-2006, 11:17 AM

According to Madden 2006 for XBOX 360 the Saints current FA signings are rated as follows:

QB Drew Brees = 88 overall
LOLB Scott Fujita = 82 overall
RB Michael Bennett = 82 overall
MLB Anthony Simmons = 89 overall
S Omar Stoutmire = 78 overall
C Dwayne Ledford = 69 overall

jegirouard · 03-26-2006, 11:31 AM

Brees is a 1 point improvement over Brooks, which is complete crap.
Fujita is 6 point improvement over Hodge
Bennett is a 3 point improvement over last years backup Smith
Simmons is a 8 point improvement over Mckinnon
Stoutmire is just for depth
Ledford is just for depth

again all this info is from madden 2006. and i dont think mckinnon is our starter because i cant think of who he is. but whatever

AllSaints · 03-26-2006, 01:31 PM

bwahaahahahahahaha

LongTimeFan · 03-26-2006, 06:04 PM

"Brees is a 1 point improvement over Brooks, which is complete crap. "

Talk about crap, Brees will prove alot of ppl wrong when he gets to play.

Euphoria · 03-26-2006, 09:40 PM

here we go hyping this guy... he isn't the savior... he will not win games for us, but he won't lose them very much for us either. He is above average at best, and had a great OL and the #1 RB behind him and lets not forget a pretty good damn D as well so... unless we get than happening here in NO as well don't expect much improvement unless the OL and D improve.

TheDeuce · 03-27-2006, 12:06 AM

here we go hyping this guy... he isn't the savior... he will not win games for us, but he won't lose them very much for us either. He is above average at best, and had a great OL and the #1 RB behind him and lets not forget a pretty good damn D as well so... unless we get than happening here in NO as well don't expect much improvement unless the OL and D improve.

Euph, what are you talking about man? Granted the guy had a great RB, but where the hell are you getting this idea that he had an amazing line? They're line is crappy, at best. Did you even read this post I made last week?

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Brees has only been good with a great OL and great D and I don't know if anyone has noticed but we don't have either.

HAHA WHAT???????? What great OL exactly are you talking about? They don't have any studs on their OL, so exaclty who would you be referring to? Scouts, Inc. has their best lineman graded out at a 71, which is the 31st best OG in the NFL. That's not very good. http://proxy.espn.go.com/nfl/feature...ting?teamId=24

Here's another article:
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San Diego's whole offseason revolves around the quarterback position. It looked like the Chargers would trade Philip Rivers and sign Drew Brees to a new long-term contract before Brees had shoulder surgery at the end of the season. Now they may keep both players. The only problem with that approach is that it will be expensive, and it will limit the moves they can make in free agency. However, San Diego is still in fairly good position. While its free-agent group includes some quality contributors, most are role players that it won't have to break the bank to re-sign. The Chargers have also done a great job of restructuring contracts, so they don't have to panic and move Brees or Rivers right now.

Defensive safety: The Chargers safeties play with good motors and mean streaks, but Terrence Kiel and Bhawoh Jue and backup Clinton Hart are all far better defending the run than they are dropping into coverage. San Diego needs an athletic starter who tackles well in the open field, has the man-to-man cover skills to match up with most slot receivers and is a playmaker.

Left offensive tackle: Roman Oben is 33 years old, and he is coming off a season-ending foot injury. The Chargers could make him a cap casualty, and his replacement would be Leander Jordan unless they add a tackle to the roster. Jordan is a strong drive blocker, but he isn't a great fit at left tackle because he has problems holding his own on an island when the Chargers drop back to pass. They need an efficient run-blocker and, more importantly, an upper-echelon pass-blocker (who can protect Brees' blind side) to compete for the starting job.

Wide receiver: Keenan McCardell is a productive short-to-intermediate receiver who still flashes the ability to make the big play. The problem is that he is aging and there is no true No. 1 here. Eric Parker isn't really physical, so he probably fits better as No. 3 slot receiver, and Reche Caldwell is an unrestricted free agent who probably won't be back. San Diego needs a vertical receiver who can stretch the field and draw double teams away from TE Antonio Gates.

Offensive guard: Starters Mike Goff and Kris Dielman are tough blue-collar players, but they struggle working against quicker one-gap defensive tackles. Although Dielman is young and he can still get better, Goff is nearing the end of his career and there is marginal depth behind them. Keeping that in mind, the Chargers need a physical starter who can prevent penetration.

Defensive corner: San Diego has two former first-round picks at corner, but neither has developed into an elite cover player, as Quentin Jammer and Sammy Davis are inconsistent. Making matters worse, former second-round pick Drayton Florence has also been up-and-down, and nickel back Jamar Fletcher is an unrestricted free agent who might not be back.

General manager A.J. Smith will make some moves in free agency, but this will remain an organization that builds though the draft. San Diego will concentrate on upgrading the offensive line and secondary. The good news is the Chargers don't have a lot of key free agents to re-sign once they lock Brees up to a long-term contact. The Chargers will bring back their role players at the right price, but they won't overpay. Players like OLBs Ben Leber and Carlos Polk, Caldwell and TE Justin Peelle could be back. San Diego also will concentrate on keeping two of their key restricted free agents, RILB Stephen Cooper and Dielman.

Two out of their top 4 positions of need are at OG and OT? How do you explain that Euph? Let me guess, you can't. You just don't like Brees. That's cool. You don't have to like him, but you shouldn't make crap up.

So seriously, do you have a grudge against him or something? Are you one of those few that actually wanted Rivers? Did Brees' winning seasons, Pro Bowl, and playoff appearances rub you the wrong way? So once again I'll say, if you don't like him, that's fine, but don't make stuff up so that people will start being pessimistic, especially when what you're making up is entirely fictitious. You gotta give credit where credit is due.

Euphoria · 03-27-2006, 12:27 AM

See here is another stellar response, someone making something of nothing. I am trying to diffuse HYPE that is not warranted. I did not want Rivers, I have no grude agains Brees but hyping him up to be the savior is ridiculous... Give me a great RB and pretty good Oline and a good D and I'd be ok... come one. If we don't get an OLINE or a D then having Brees at QB means nothing. He will not make up for a poor Oline or horrible D.

where did I mentioned I had a grudge or wanted Rivers??? geez.

TheDeuce · 03-27-2006, 12:49 AM

See here is another stellar response, someone making something of nothing. I am trying to diffuse HYPE that is not warranted. I did not want Rivers, I have no grude agains Brees but hyping him up to be the savior is ridiculous... Give me a great RB and pretty good Oline and a good D and I'd be ok... come one. If we don't get an OLINE or a D then having Brees at QB means nothing. He will not make up for a poor Oline or horrible D.

where did I mentioned I had a grudge or wanted Rivers??? geez.

You're not killing hype, you're saying he's not very good, when it's obvious that he is. Average players don't make Pro Bowls. Nobody said he was the savior, but I think everybody would agree that he's a huge upgrade over AB.

And now their line is only good? So you're changing your story now? What about the 2000 Ravens? They had one of the best Ds of all time, Jamal Lewis was playing great, and their OLine actually had really really good players on it including a healthy Jonathan Ogden. But was it so easy for Trent Dilfer? No, he sucked that year. He had a QB rating of 76.6 and completed less than 60% of his passes. Just because a guy has a good OLine, a great RB, and even an AMAZING defense, doens't mean he's going to be a great QB. Give Brees a little credit here Euph, he was the one actually throwing the balls.

You never mentioned you had a grudge or wanted Rivers, but that's all I can think of to try and explain to myself why you say that Brees isn't any good.

zachsaints52 · 03-27-2006, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

here we go hyping this guy... he isn't the savior... he will not win games for us, but he won't lose them very much for us either. He is above average at best, and had a great OL and the #1 RB behind him and lets not forget a pretty good damn D as well so... unless we get than happening here in NO as well don't expect much improvement unless the OL and D improve.

I'm pretty sure their O-Line sucked for ahile, didn't they?

saintswhodi · 03-27-2006, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by zachsaints52

Originally Posted by Euphoria

here we go hyping this guy... he isn't the savior... he will not win games for us, but he won't lose them very much for us either. He is above average at best, and had a great OL and the #1 RB behind him and lets not forget a pretty good damn D as well so... unless we get than happening here in NO as well don't expect much improvement unless the OL and D improve.

I'm pretty sure their O-Line sucked for ahile, didn't they?

I said it before, i'll say it again, before Brees blew up two years ago, San Diego's O-line was pre-season ranked the worst in football. The ONLY reason I know is because people on here wanted to argue so much our line was the worst. Brees had a pro bowl season, and now they have a great line? Don't think so. San Diego's O-line is average at best, What improved was the decisions by the QB. Where have I heard we needed that before? Deuce is so spot on with his assessment it's unreal. Euph wanted Brooks to stay, and noone else is good enough, so he is completely farbricating stuff about San D to prove a point. They DO NOT have a great O-line. But they did have a VERY smart QB. Now we have him. Deal with it.

03-26-2006, 11:17 AM	#1
jegirouard 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 121	Saints FA Ratings According to Madden 2006 for XBOX 360 the Saints current FA signings are rated as follows: QB Drew Brees = 88 overall LOLB Scott Fujita = 82 overall RB Michael Bennett = 82 overall MLB Anthony Simmons = 89 overall S Omar Stoutmire = 78 overall C Dwayne Ledford = 69 overall
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03-26-2006, 11:31 AM	#2
jegirouard 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 121	RE: Saints FA Ratings Brees is a 1 point improvement over Brooks, which is complete crap. Fujita is 6 point improvement over Hodge Bennett is a 3 point improvement over last years backup Smith Simmons is a 8 point improvement over Mckinnon Stoutmire is just for depth Ledford is just for depth again all this info is from madden 2006. and i dont think mckinnon is our starter because i cant think of who he is. but whatever
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03-26-2006, 01:31 PM	#3
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03-26-2006, 06:04 PM	#4
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	RE: Saints FA Ratings "Brees is a 1 point improvement over Brooks, which is complete crap. " Talk about crap, Brees will prove alot of ppl wrong when he gets to play.

03-26-2006, 09:40 PM	#5
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	RE: Saints FA Ratings here we go hyping this guy... he isn't the savior... he will not win games for us, but he won't lose them very much for us either. He is above average at best, and had a great OL and the #1 RB behind him and lets not forget a pretty good damn D as well so... unless we get than happening here in NO as well don't expect much improvement unless the OL and D improve.

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03-27-2006, 12:06 AM	#6
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	RE: Saints FA Ratings here we go hyping this guy... he isn't the savior... he will not win games for us, but he won't lose them very much for us either. He is above average at best, and had a great OL and the #1 RB behind him and lets not forget a pretty good damn D as well so... unless we get than happening here in NO as well don't expect much improvement unless the OL and D improve. Euph, what are you talking about man? Granted the guy had a great RB, but where the hell are you getting this idea that he had an amazing line? They're line is crappy, at best. Did you even read this post I made last week? Quote: Brees has only been good with a great OL and great D and I don't know if anyone has noticed but we don't have either. HAHA WHAT???????? What great OL exactly are you talking about? They don't have any studs on their OL, so exaclty who would you be referring to? Scouts, Inc. has their best lineman graded out at a 71, which is the 31st best OG in the NFL. That's not very good. http://proxy.espn.go.com/nfl/feature...ting?teamId=24 Here's another article: Quote: San Diego's whole offseason revolves around the quarterback position. It looked like the Chargers would trade Philip Rivers and sign Drew Brees to a new long-term contract before Brees had shoulder surgery at the end of the season. Now they may keep both players. The only problem with that approach is that it will be expensive, and it will limit the moves they can make in free agency. However, San Diego is still in fairly good position. While its free-agent group includes some quality contributors, most are role players that it won't have to break the bank to re-sign. The Chargers have also done a great job of restructuring contracts, so they don't have to panic and move Brees or Rivers right now. Defensive safety: The Chargers safeties play with good motors and mean streaks, but Terrence Kiel and Bhawoh Jue and backup Clinton Hart are all far better defending the run than they are dropping into coverage. San Diego needs an athletic starter who tackles well in the open field, has the man-to-man cover skills to match up with most slot receivers and is a playmaker. Left offensive tackle: Roman Oben is 33 years old, and he is coming off a season-ending foot injury. The Chargers could make him a cap casualty, and his replacement would be Leander Jordan unless they add a tackle to the roster. Jordan is a strong drive blocker, but he isn't a great fit at left tackle because he has problems holding his own on an island when the Chargers drop back to pass. They need an efficient run-blocker and, more importantly, an upper-echelon pass-blocker (who can protect Brees' blind side) to compete for the starting job. Wide receiver: Keenan McCardell is a productive short-to-intermediate receiver who still flashes the ability to make the big play. The problem is that he is aging and there is no true No. 1 here. Eric Parker isn't really physical, so he probably fits better as No. 3 slot receiver, and Reche Caldwell is an unrestricted free agent who probably won't be back. San Diego needs a vertical receiver who can stretch the field and draw double teams away from TE Antonio Gates. Offensive guard: Starters Mike Goff and Kris Dielman are tough blue-collar players, but they struggle working against quicker one-gap defensive tackles. Although Dielman is young and he can still get better, Goff is nearing the end of his career and there is marginal depth behind them. Keeping that in mind, the Chargers need a physical starter who can prevent penetration. Defensive corner: San Diego has two former first-round picks at corner, but neither has developed into an elite cover player, as Quentin Jammer and Sammy Davis are inconsistent. Making matters worse, former second-round pick Drayton Florence has also been up-and-down, and nickel back Jamar Fletcher is an unrestricted free agent who might not be back. General manager A.J. Smith will make some moves in free agency, but this will remain an organization that builds though the draft. San Diego will concentrate on upgrading the offensive line and secondary. The good news is the Chargers don't have a lot of key free agents to re-sign once they lock Brees up to a long-term contact. The Chargers will bring back their role players at the right price, but they won't overpay. Players like OLBs Ben Leber and Carlos Polk, Caldwell and TE Justin Peelle could be back. San Diego also will concentrate on keeping two of their key restricted free agents, RILB Stephen Cooper and Dielman. Two out of their top 4 positions of need are at OG and OT? How do you explain that Euph? Let me guess, you can't. You just don't like Brees. That's cool. You don't have to like him, but you shouldn't make crap up. So seriously, do you have a grudge against him or something? Are you one of those few that actually wanted Rivers? Did Brees' winning seasons, Pro Bowl, and playoff appearances rub you the wrong way? So once again I'll say, if you don't like him, that's fine, but don't make stuff up so that people will start being pessimistic, especially when what you're making up is entirely fictitious. You gotta give credit where credit is due.
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03-27-2006, 12:27 AM	#7
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	RE: Saints FA Ratings See here is another stellar response, someone making something of nothing. I am trying to diffuse HYPE that is not warranted. I did not want Rivers, I have no grude agains Brees but hyping him up to be the savior is ridiculous... Give me a great RB and pretty good Oline and a good D and I'd be ok... come one. If we don't get an OLINE or a D then having Brees at QB means nothing. He will not make up for a poor Oline or horrible D. where did I mentioned I had a grudge or wanted Rivers??? geez.

03-27-2006, 12:49 AM	#8
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	RE: Saints FA Ratings See here is another stellar response, someone making something of nothing. I am trying to diffuse HYPE that is not warranted. I did not want Rivers, I have no grude agains Brees but hyping him up to be the savior is ridiculous... Give me a great RB and pretty good Oline and a good D and I'd be ok... come one. If we don't get an OLINE or a D then having Brees at QB means nothing. He will not make up for a poor Oline or horrible D. where did I mentioned I had a grudge or wanted Rivers??? geez. You're not killing hype, you're saying he's not very good, when it's obvious that he is. Average players don't make Pro Bowls. Nobody said he was the savior, but I think everybody would agree that he's a huge upgrade over AB. And now their line is only good? So you're changing your story now? What about the 2000 Ravens? They had one of the best Ds of all time, Jamal Lewis was playing great, and their OLine actually had really really good players on it including a healthy Jonathan Ogden. But was it so easy for Trent Dilfer? No, he sucked that year. He had a QB rating of 76.6 and completed less than 60% of his passes. Just because a guy has a good OLine, a great RB, and even an AMAZING defense, doens't mean he's going to be a great QB. Give Brees a little credit here Euph, he was the one actually throwing the balls. You never mentioned you had a grudge or wanted Rivers, but that's all I can think of to try and explain to myself why you say that Brees isn't any good.
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03-27-2006, 10:43 AM	#9
zachsaints52 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Abingdon, Virginia Posts: 522	Re: RE: Saints FA Ratings Originally Posted by Euphoria here we go hyping this guy... he isn't the savior... he will not win games for us, but he won't lose them very much for us either. He is above average at best, and had a great OL and the #1 RB behind him and lets not forget a pretty good damn D as well so... unless we get than happening here in NO as well don't expect much improvement unless the OL and D improve. I'm pretty sure their O-Line sucked for ahile, didn't they?

03-27-2006, 11:07 AM	#10
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Re: RE: Saints FA Ratings Originally Posted by zachsaints52 Originally Posted by Euphoria here we go hyping this guy... he isn't the savior... he will not win games for us, but he won't lose them very much for us either. He is above average at best, and had a great OL and the #1 RB behind him and lets not forget a pretty good damn D as well so... unless we get than happening here in NO as well don't expect much improvement unless the OL and D improve. I'm pretty sure their O-Line sucked for ahile, didn't they? I said it before, i'll say it again, before Brees blew up two years ago, San Diego's O-line was pre-season ranked the worst in football. The ONLY reason I know is because people on here wanted to argue so much our line was the worst. Brees had a pro bowl season, and now they have a great line? Don't think so. San Diego's O-line is average at best, What improved was the decisions by the QB. Where have I heard we needed that before? Deuce is so spot on with his assessment it's unreal. Euph wanted Brooks to stay, and noone else is good enough, so he is completely farbricating stuff about San D to prove a point. They DO NOT have a great O-line. But they did have a VERY smart QB. Now we have him. Deal with it.