Saints Trading Stallworth?!?!

TIGERSAINT31 · 04-02-2006, 07:18 PM

Adam Caplan of footballinjuries.com said the Saints are not trading Donte to anyone. He said sometimes when a player gets in some trouble the team will start a trade rumor to get that players attention. Which makes alot of since to me hopefully Donte gets the message

pakowitz · 04-03-2006, 08:20 AM

who the hell is adam caplan of footballinjuries.com... never heard of either of those... the guy or the site.... and KFFL.com is always the first site with all the latest NFL news

LKelley67 · 04-03-2006, 09:34 AM

A good front office will trade or let go of anyone for the best interest of the team. There is a right price and wrong price for anyone. Herschel Walker? John Elway? Eli Manning? Culpepper? McGinnest? Abraham? Roaf? Edge James?

The salary/cap implications as well as the length of the contract are just a big of issues as the player's ability. That is why many were calling for Darren Howard to be moved last year this time. A 2nd then would have been better than one more year then nothing. Ditto Bentley. This is the last season of a 6 year deal he signed in 2002 if I remember correctly. If someone liked him enoough to be able and negotiate and extension he would be worth a decent 2nd rounder IMO. No contract change and to rent the guy for a year a 3rd would be fortunate.

pakowitz · 04-03-2006, 09:37 AM

6 year deal... 2002.... hmmm well its 2006... so where those other 2 years went to?

LKelley67 · 04-03-2006, 09:45 AM

You math wizard! that does up it on him. Maybe a 2nd then for 2 year rental. Extend if you like the results this year. In fact, unless the FO see him as a problem child or an authentic Mr. Dropsy he looks like a keeper.

zachsaints52 · 04-03-2006, 10:57 AM

I haven't read the two middle pages, but I really will hatet his if we do trade Donte'. He the reason I became and fell in love with the Saints. He will become a true #1 someday, after Horn is retired or whatever.

jrmllb · 04-03-2006, 11:36 AM

If we could get Javon I say let him go...I like the guy and I know he has the potential to be a good to great WR but Javon, even coming off the injury, would be a better now...

saintswhodi · 04-03-2006, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by jrmllb

If we could get Javon I say let him go...I like the guy and I know he has the potential to be a good to great WR but Javon, even coming off the injury, would be a better now...

This is one of the ONLY ways I let Donte go. Getting Javon. Has anyone seen who Stallworth's QB has been? One of THE most inaccurate passers around, and not just inaccurate, he throws inaccurate missiles. Bad combo. Stall prob went into shock when he got a good pass. But let's look at some statements:

He drops too many:

Donte "dropped" 11 balls. Like to see what hey define as catchable but anyway, Plaxico burress and Muhsin Muhammed dropped the same amount. I wonder if they should get traded. Very close to Donte was Eddie Kennison, Antonio Gates, Chad Johnson and Chris Chambers. Are those guys getting traded? Don't think so. Drops=no big deal. A better QB will fix that.

Injury prone:

Um, he played in EVERY game the last two years. As a matter of fact, after his sophomore year, he made a committment in the offseason to train his hammies and his overall body stretching and strength to avoid injuries. They said last year he played with broken fingers from Brooks' rockets. He didn't sit down. How many players on our team have that kinda committment to improving themselves?

Has been a disappoinment:

The normal learning curve for a WR is three years, Donte as injured for his first two. Would it stand to reason he may be a bit behind the curve due to that? Anyone remember the River City relay? That play doesn't happen if Donte doesn't break THREE tackles to get it started. The kid is a PLAYMAKER.

A second is too high:

This has to be the biggest joke of all. Brandon Lloyd just got traded for a THIRD this year AND a fourth next year. Brandon FREAKING Lloyd? And Donte isn't worth AT LEAST a second? Stop smoking.

FatiusJeebs · 04-03-2006, 02:19 PM

Ya know....I would kinda hate to see that happen. I think if there was one bright spot in all of last year's ugliness...it was him. He rose up, stepped to the challenge, and did a great job for us last year. Lets not forget the man is FAST. I think it would be a bad move....GET WALKER!!!

GoldRush26 · 04-03-2006, 02:48 PM

[quote="saintswhodi"]

Originally Posted by jrmllb

A second is too high:

This has to be the biggest joke of all. Brandon Lloyd just got traded for a THIRD this year AND a fourth next year. Brandon FREAKING Lloyd? And Donte isn't worth AT LEAST a second? Stop smoking.

Sorry whodi but a second IS too high. What about Stallworth, other than the fact that he's on our team and you like him, makes you think he's worth a second? Like it or not he really hasn't done anything remarkable. Look at Stallworth's first three years in the league and compare them to Lloyd's. They are pretty comparable. It's not worth it to trade him at all. Looking at it from another teams' perspective, what can you point out that he's done to be worth more than what Brandon Lloyd went for? Asking a team to give up their second round pick is a bit much. A third and a forth is a lot different from that, which i would think would be a good trade for him. You said "at least" a second??? Are you saying that Stallworth is worth a second and a third? Or a first??? Come on now we all like the guy but....

And blaming his catching woes on AB is the same thing those Raiders fans are doing....blaming AB's throwing woes on Stallworth, and the o-liine, and the coaches. Yeah it's partially AB's fautl but everyone of us here knows that Stallworth has probably the worst hands on the team, along with Henderson.

04-03-2006, 12:05 PM	#58
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by jrmllb If we could get Javon I say let him go...I like the guy and I know he has the potential to be a good to great WR but Javon, even coming off the injury, would be a better now... This is one of the ONLY ways I let Donte go. Getting Javon. Has anyone seen who Stallworth's QB has been? One of THE most inaccurate passers around, and not just inaccurate, he throws inaccurate missiles. Bad combo. Stall prob went into shock when he got a good pass. But let's look at some statements: He drops too many: Donte "dropped" 11 balls. Like to see what hey define as catchable but anyway, Plaxico burress and Muhsin Muhammed dropped the same amount. I wonder if they should get traded. Very close to Donte was Eddie Kennison, Antonio Gates, Chad Johnson and Chris Chambers. Are those guys getting traded? Don't think so. Drops=no big deal. A better QB will fix that. Injury prone: Um, he played in EVERY game the last two years. As a matter of fact, after his sophomore year, he made a committment in the offseason to train his hammies and his overall body stretching and strength to avoid injuries. They said last year he played with broken fingers from Brooks' rockets. He didn't sit down. How many players on our team have that kinda committment to improving themselves? Has been a disappoinment: The normal learning curve for a WR is three years, Donte as injured for his first two. Would it stand to reason he may be a bit behind the curve due to that? Anyone remember the River City relay? That play doesn't happen if Donte doesn't break THREE tackles to get it started. The kid is a PLAYMAKER. A second is too high: This has to be the biggest joke of all. Brandon Lloyd just got traded for a THIRD this year AND a fourth next year. Brandon FREAKING Lloyd? And Donte isn't worth AT LEAST a second? Stop smoking.

04-03-2006, 02:19 PM	#59
FatiusJeebs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 973	Ya know....I would kinda hate to see that happen. I think if there was one bright spot in all of last year's ugliness...it was him. He rose up, stepped to the challenge, and did a great job for us last year. Lets not forget the man is FAST. I think it would be a bad move....GET WALKER!!!
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04-03-2006, 02:48 PM	#60
GoldRush26 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 594	[quote="saintswhodi"] Originally Posted by jrmllb A second is too high: This has to be the biggest joke of all. Brandon Lloyd just got traded for a THIRD this year AND a fourth next year. Brandon FREAKING Lloyd? And Donte isn't worth AT LEAST a second? Stop smoking. Sorry whodi but a second IS too high. What about Stallworth, other than the fact that he's on our team and you like him, makes you think he's worth a second? Like it or not he really hasn't done anything remarkable. Look at Stallworth's first three years in the league and compare them to Lloyd's. They are pretty comparable. It's not worth it to trade him at all. Looking at it from another teams' perspective, what can you point out that he's done to be worth more than what Brandon Lloyd went for? Asking a team to give up their second round pick is a bit much. A third and a forth is a lot different from that, which i would think would be a good trade for him. You said "at least" a second??? Are you saying that Stallworth is worth a second and a third? Or a first??? Come on now we all like the guy but.... And blaming his catching woes on AB is the same thing those Raiders fans are doing....blaming AB's throwing woes on Stallworth, and the o-liine, and the coaches. Yeah it's partially AB's fautl but everyone of us here knows that Stallworth has probably the worst hands on the team, along with Henderson.
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04-02-2006, 07:18 PM	#51
TIGERSAINT31 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Smithdale M.S. Posts: 107	Adam Caplan of footballinjuries.com said the Saints are not trading Donte to anyone. He said sometimes when a player gets in some trouble the team will start a trade rumor to get that players attention. Which makes alot of since to me hopefully Donte gets the message

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04-03-2006, 08:20 AM	#52
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	who the hell is adam caplan of footballinjuries.com... never heard of either of those... the guy or the site.... and KFFL.com is always the first site with all the latest NFL news

04-03-2006, 09:34 AM	#53
LKelley67 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: baton rouge Posts: 2,540	A good front office will trade or let go of anyone for the best interest of the team. There is a right price and wrong price for anyone. Herschel Walker? John Elway? Eli Manning? Culpepper? McGinnest? Abraham? Roaf? Edge James? The salary/cap implications as well as the length of the contract are just a big of issues as the player's ability. That is why many were calling for Darren Howard to be moved last year this time. A 2nd then would have been better than one more year then nothing. Ditto Bentley. This is the last season of a 6 year deal he signed in 2002 if I remember correctly. If someone liked him enoough to be able and negotiate and extension he would be worth a decent 2nd rounder IMO. No contract change and to rent the guy for a year a 3rd would be fortunate.

04-03-2006, 09:37 AM	#54
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	6 year deal... 2002.... hmmm well its 2006... so where those other 2 years went to?

04-03-2006, 09:45 AM	#55
LKelley67 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: baton rouge Posts: 2,540	You math wizard! that does up it on him. Maybe a 2nd then for 2 year rental. Extend if you like the results this year. In fact, unless the FO see him as a problem child or an authentic Mr. Dropsy he looks like a keeper.

04-03-2006, 10:57 AM	#56
zachsaints52 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Abingdon, Virginia Posts: 522	I haven't read the two middle pages, but I really will hatet his if we do trade Donte'. He the reason I became and fell in love with the Saints. He will become a true #1 someday, after Horn is retired or whatever.

04-03-2006, 11:36 AM	#57
jrmllb 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Posts: 665	If we could get Javon I say let him go...I like the guy and I know he has the potential to be a good to great WR but Javon, even coming off the injury, would be a better now...