Saints Trading Stallworth?!?!

ssmitty · 04-01-2006, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by papz

3rd rounder? Kind of undervaluing just a bit huh? He's still only 25 and could 70 balls last season. He was 55 yards away from his first thousand year season. This was virtually his first full season w/o any type of hamstring set backs. If he's not traded, I expect to see him easily go over the thousand yard mark. Finally he has someone to get him the ball... he'll still have his drops, but he should get to that next level soon IMO.

have to disagree papz..........yes, he is young and yes he is coming off a good yr and one more hamstring pull and what? imo, donte is a burner........catch the ball and most of the time gone.........if this rumor is true, maybe someone wants him or we are seeing if anyone is interested......in either case, he has reminded me of brooks over the yrs, dazzling at times, and totally left dumbfounded at others.......i'm all for giving him another yr and who knows, he may become a joe horn and blossom, but you have to be consistent, don't you agree?
smitty

papz · 04-01-2006, 04:27 PM

Don't see anything wrong with what you posted. Remember how old Joe Horn was before he blossomed... Stallworth is well above that pace.

What did you disagree with though smitty? You think a 3rd rounder for Stallworth isn't undervaluing him? Would you pull the trigger on a deal for a mid round draft pick? I certainly wouldn't.

GoldRush26 · 04-01-2006, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Don't see anything wrong with what you posted. Remember how old Joe Horn was before he blossomed... Stallworth is well above that pace.

What did you disagree with though smitty? You think a 3rd rounder for Stallworth isn't undervaluing him? Would you pull the trigger on a deal for a mid round draft pick? I certainly wouldn't.

Well what could he possibly command more than that?? You have to not see him through the eyes of a Saints fan. I thought a 3rd rounder was being generous. He's an oft-injured former 1st round pick who has underachieved. Daunte Culpepper was just traded for a second rounder. Do you honestlty think we could get a second rounder for Stallworth....I say no way. My first option would be to keep him, but if they are dead set on trading him, then a 3rd is what I would realistically expect.

LongTimeFan · 04-01-2006, 04:42 PM

IMO I think Stallworth will continue to improve, I'd hate to give up on him only to see him go to another team and say I told you so. (Like a Jake D.)

LivnaLieTimay · 04-01-2006, 05:30 PM

I think Stallworth is going to have his best year as a pro this year. The only logic for us trading Stallworth is that we don't think we will be able to afford him next year so we might as well trade him this year and see what we can get. I'm not for trading the guy for a 3rd round pick. Keep him around for another year, see how he does and if he breaks out then we better resign him.

papz · 04-01-2006, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by GoldRush26

You have to not see him through the eyes of a Saints fan.

Seeing how this is a Saints board and I have been posting here for quite some time... hmm... let me think about that and I'll try to get back to you.

I think we could get a 2nd rounder for him... but that's just me. I rather not see him traded at all. You think Daunte's fat 100 million dollar contract and his injury had anything to do with him being traded for a 2nd rounder? Just a thought.

hagan714 · 04-01-2006, 06:09 PM

He has dropped quite a few balls his first few years in the league...

a few is generous.
3 this year and a 4 next (for the what ifs) sounds good but straight up for a 3 is fair. Henderson is the speed and well after Joe we got no hands. trade donte for a 3 and pick Hass in the third I will be happy.

ssmitty · 04-01-2006, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Don't see anything wrong with what you posted. Remember how old Joe Horn was before he blossomed... Stallworth is well above that pace.

What did you disagree with though smitty? You think a 3rd rounder for Stallworth isn't undervaluing him? Would you pull the trigger on a deal for a mid round draft pick? I certainly wouldn't.

like i said, i'll be all for another yr,,,,,,,,,,,,,it gets depressing with injuries though......as far as pick, can't say........but, a solid 2nd for his last yr performance would justify it in my mind......
i'd rather pick up another horn and go from there.............smitty

papz · 04-01-2006, 06:26 PM

Ha! So you actually agree with me! :P

ssmitty · 04-01-2006, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Ha! So you actually agree with me! :P

did not see your other post til now, but yes, i do.....in many team's mind, he may be on the breakout and worth the chance, all i can say is dammit!, his speed is the cause of all these injuries....................dammit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!smitty

04-01-2006, 04:19 PM	#11
ssmitty 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,879	Originally Posted by papz 3rd rounder? Kind of undervaluing just a bit huh? He's still only 25 and could 70 balls last season. He was 55 yards away from his first thousand year season. This was virtually his first full season w/o any type of hamstring set backs. If he's not traded, I expect to see him easily go over the thousand yard mark. Finally he has someone to get him the ball... he'll still have his drops, but he should get to that next level soon IMO. have to disagree papz..........yes, he is young and yes he is coming off a good yr and one more hamstring pull and what? imo, donte is a burner........catch the ball and most of the time gone.........if this rumor is true, maybe someone wants him or we are seeing if anyone is interested......in either case, he has reminded me of brooks over the yrs, dazzling at times, and totally left dumbfounded at others.......i'm all for giving him another yr and who knows, he may become a joe horn and blossom, but you have to be consistent, don't you agree? smitty
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04-01-2006, 04:42 PM	#13
GoldRush26 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 594	Originally Posted by papz Don't see anything wrong with what you posted. Remember how old Joe Horn was before he blossomed... Stallworth is well above that pace. What did you disagree with though smitty? You think a 3rd rounder for Stallworth isn't undervaluing him? Would you pull the trigger on a deal for a mid round draft pick? I certainly wouldn't. Well what could he possibly command more than that?? You have to not see him through the eyes of a Saints fan. I thought a 3rd rounder was being generous. He's an oft-injured former 1st round pick who has underachieved. Daunte Culpepper was just traded for a second rounder. Do you honestlty think we could get a second rounder for Stallworth....I say no way. My first option would be to keep him, but if they are dead set on trading him, then a 3rd is what I would realistically expect.
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04-01-2006, 06:06 PM	#16
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Originally Posted by GoldRush26 You have to not see him through the eyes of a Saints fan. Seeing how this is a Saints board and I have been posting here for quite some time... hmm... let me think about that and I'll try to get back to you. I think we could get a 2nd rounder for him... but that's just me. I rather not see him traded at all. You think Daunte's fat 100 million dollar contract and his injury had anything to do with him being traded for a 2nd rounder? Just a thought.

04-01-2006, 06:21 PM	#18
ssmitty 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,879	Originally Posted by papz Don't see anything wrong with what you posted. Remember how old Joe Horn was before he blossomed... Stallworth is well above that pace. What did you disagree with though smitty? You think a 3rd rounder for Stallworth isn't undervaluing him? Would you pull the trigger on a deal for a mid round draft pick? I certainly wouldn't. like i said, i'll be all for another yr,,,,,,,,,,,,,it gets depressing with injuries though......as far as pick, can't say........but, a solid 2nd for his last yr performance would justify it in my mind...... i'd rather pick up another horn and go from there.............smitty
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04-01-2006, 06:32 PM	#20
ssmitty 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,879	Originally Posted by papz Ha! So you actually agree with me! :P did not see your other post til now, but yes, i do.....in many team's mind, he may be on the breakout and worth the chance, all i can say is dammit!, his speed is the cause of all these injuries....................dammit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!smitty
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04-01-2006, 04:27 PM	#12
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Don't see anything wrong with what you posted. Remember how old Joe Horn was before he blossomed... Stallworth is well above that pace. What did you disagree with though smitty? You think a 3rd rounder for Stallworth isn't undervaluing him? Would you pull the trigger on a deal for a mid round draft pick? I certainly wouldn't.

04-01-2006, 04:42 PM	#14
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	IMO I think Stallworth will continue to improve, I'd hate to give up on him only to see him go to another team and say I told you so. (Like a Jake D.)

04-01-2006, 05:30 PM	#15
LivnaLieTimay 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New York Posts: 1,498	I think Stallworth is going to have his best year as a pro this year. The only logic for us trading Stallworth is that we don't think we will be able to afford him next year so we might as well trade him this year and see what we can get. I'm not for trading the guy for a 3rd round pick. Keep him around for another year, see how he does and if he breaks out then we better resign him.

04-01-2006, 06:09 PM	#17
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	He has dropped quite a few balls his first few years in the league... a few is generous. 3 this year and a 4 next (for the what ifs) sounds good but straight up for a 3 is fair. Henderson is the speed and well after Joe we got no hands. trade donte for a 3 and pick Hass in the third I will be happy.

04-01-2006, 06:26 PM	#19
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Ha! So you actually agree with me! :P