Saints trade LT Gandy to Falcons for safety Scott

centurionsi · 04-06-2006, 10:59 PM

Kenny Wilkson said somwthing to the effect that getting rid of Gandy was almost as big as getting rid of AB. that he had a big ego and was trouble in the locker room, not to mention that he refused to help with salary cap by redoing his contract last year. Him going means less penalties on the O-line. A box of jock straps would have been a good swap.

ScottyRo · 04-06-2006, 11:01 PM

I love this trade. I don't care what kind of safety Scott is or turns out to be. Getting rid of Gandy and his salary is worth it. Gandy has not been worth the money we were paying since he got here. If Stinch is anywhere close to where he was before he got hurt, I can't say that is a big loss in terms of production and we gain oh so much in cap space.

I also like the potential of moving Brown to LT - assuming he can do it. Just becaise Roaf succeeded in moving doesn't mean this guy will (see Turley). We need another good lineman so if we took D'brick at #2, I wouldn't be too upset. I'm just really starting to doubt the trade opportunity is going to unfold (for value) and would much prefer taking a O-lineman, whose position is much less risky than picking a LB.

You gotta love the moves. They're not earth shattering by any means, but they certainly are interesting.

GoldRush26 · 04-06-2006, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by gandhi1007

Now that we have freed up some money by trading Gandy, can we please show LaVar Arrington the money?

Ha Arrington isn't thinking about coming here. Like it or not guys we are pretty low on the list of teams for top free agents in the league, if we even make a lot of players' lists. We ALMOST didn't get Drew Brees. In addition to that, no way is our FO going to overpay to get him, which is what it would take to get him. We'd have to significantly surpass the figures that other teams have offered him to have a shot. I don't think it's worth it.

We aren't the "Arrington" type of team. The perfect team for Arrington is Washington, because that's the one team that has no problem giving him the kind of jack that he's asking for. Too bad for him he didn't realize that.

Considering that the franchise tender at LB for '06 is about $7.1 mil, it's reasonable to assume that we'd have to offer Arrington at least $9 or $10 mil a year for him to come here. Not worth it.

TheDeuce · 04-07-2006, 12:47 AM

When will we know of the pick?

The deal will be officially done tomorrow, so I imagine we'll here then.

Now that we have freed up some money by trading Gandy, can we please show LaVar Arrington the money?

Are we still on this? Not only does he not want to come here, but he's asking for more money than the teams he actually wants to go to are willing to pay. He's asking for Julian Peterson money (7 years, 54 mil). It's just too much money, and he's not coming down.

hagan714 · 04-07-2006, 06:53 AM

Thats right duce. way to much money, This years draft is deep in OT at least toll the end off the second or the middle of the third. Sound like the LB, DE, DT. The impact players are Bush, Davis, DBrick, and AJ. I did not make a mistake leaving a QB and DT out of the group. The rest all have a major ? or two surrronding them. So any of the 4 I would take in a heart beat and give them the big bucks of being a top 10 player in the draft. As for OT i will say it again I like these two later in the draft if we do not get DBrick.
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gandhi1007 · 04-07-2006, 12:47 PM

Why is it that every time you mention LaVar Arrington's name, certain people cringe? 1st of all, we need a shut down LB the likes of which we haven't seen in black & gold for some time. LaVar is that type of guy. The guy has unbelievable work ethic, speed, strength, & awareness. Then you guys come with the sour grapes stuff like "he doesn't want to play here" & "he wants Julian Peterson money". LaVar has already gave the finger to the Giants & Bengals for nickle & diming him.

The man said the other day that he would entertain any team that made him a respectable offer. Offer the man something respectable & we've got a chance. If it doesn't work, fine, at least we tried. And for the record, Arrington is better than Julian Peterson anyday, so if it's Peterson money he wants, give it to him.

saintswhodi · 04-07-2006, 12:58 PM

And for the record, Arrington is better than Julian Peterson anyday, so if it's Peterson money he wants, give it to him.

Wait a minute now, don't go putting stuff on the record. That stuff has a tendency to come back and bite you. lol

spkb25 · 04-07-2006, 01:02 PM

i saw on espn or nfl.com that he wants 9 mil and the other teams are not willing to pay and that is why he hasn't signed. screw that. we can get two players for that type of money. 9 mil is ridiculous. hye lavar get your head out yo asssss. if he was so special why was he sitting the bench for part of the year last year.

gandhi1007 · 04-07-2006, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

And for the record, Arrington is better than Julian Peterson anyday, so if it's Peterson money he wants, give it to him.

Wait a minute now, don't go putting stuff on the record. That stuff has a tendency to come back and bite you. lol

I know. My luck LaVar will get hit by an ice cream truck & everyone will be saying "Aren't you glad we didn't get Arrington?"

LOL

Tobias-Reiper · 04-07-2006, 01:41 PM

You guys think that Gandy is actually going to start for the Falcons?
If so, how do you like that Smith/Grant-Gandy match ???

04-06-2006, 11:36 PM	#53
GoldRush26 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 594	Originally Posted by gandhi1007 Now that we have freed up some money by trading Gandy, can we please show LaVar Arrington the money? Ha Arrington isn't thinking about coming here. Like it or not guys we are pretty low on the list of teams for top free agents in the league, if we even make a lot of players' lists. We ALMOST didn't get Drew Brees. In addition to that, no way is our FO going to overpay to get him, which is what it would take to get him. We'd have to significantly surpass the figures that other teams have offered him to have a shot. I don't think it's worth it. We aren't the "Arrington" type of team. The perfect team for Arrington is Washington, because that's the one team that has no problem giving him the kind of jack that he's asking for. Too bad for him he didn't realize that. Considering that the franchise tender at LB for '06 is about $7.1 mil, it's reasonable to assume that we'd have to offer Arrington at least $9 or $10 mil a year for him to come here. Not worth it.
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04-07-2006, 12:47 AM	#54
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	When will we know of the pick? The deal will be officially done tomorrow, so I imagine we'll here then. Now that we have freed up some money by trading Gandy, can we please show LaVar Arrington the money? Are we still on this? Not only does he not want to come here, but he's asking for more money than the teams he actually wants to go to are willing to pay. He's asking for Julian Peterson money (7 years, 54 mil). It's just too much money, and he's not coming down.
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04-07-2006, 06:53 AM	#55
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Thats right duce. way to much money, This years draft is deep in OT at least toll the end off the second or the middle of the third. Sound like the LB, DE, DT. The impact players are Bush, Davis, DBrick, and AJ. I did not make a mistake leaving a QB and DT out of the group. The rest all have a major ? or two surrronding them. So any of the 4 I would take in a heart beat and give them the big bucks of being a top 10 player in the draft. As for OT i will say it again I like these two later in the draft if we do not get DBrick. LOT Daryn Colledge SR 6-5.5/309/- Boise State ROT Jeremy Trueblood SR 6-9/295/- Boston College Attitude is the mark of a winner. (ie. Roaf/Turley)
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04-07-2006, 12:47 PM	#56
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Why is it that every time you mention LaVar Arrington's name, certain people cringe? 1st of all, we need a shut down LB the likes of which we haven't seen in black & gold for some time. LaVar is that type of guy. The guy has unbelievable work ethic, speed, strength, & awareness. Then you guys come with the sour grapes stuff like "he doesn't want to play here" & "he wants Julian Peterson money". LaVar has already gave the finger to the Giants & Bengals for nickle & diming him. The man said the other day that he would entertain any team that made him a respectable offer. Offer the man something respectable & we've got a chance. If it doesn't work, fine, at least we tried. And for the record, Arrington is better than Julian Peterson anyday, so if it's Peterson money he wants, give it to him.
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04-07-2006, 01:11 PM	#59
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Originally Posted by saintswhodi And for the record, Arrington is better than Julian Peterson anyday, so if it's Peterson money he wants, give it to him. Wait a minute now, don't go putting stuff on the record. That stuff has a tendency to come back and bite you. lol I know. My luck LaVar will get hit by an ice cream truck & everyone will be saying "Aren't you glad we didn't get Arrington?" LOL

04-06-2006, 10:59 PM	#51
centurionsi Rookie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3	Kenny Wilkson said somwthing to the effect that getting rid of Gandy was almost as big as getting rid of AB. that he had a big ego and was trouble in the locker room, not to mention that he refused to help with salary cap by redoing his contract last year. Him going means less penalties on the O-line. A box of jock straps would have been a good swap.

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04-06-2006, 11:01 PM	#52
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	I love this trade. I don't care what kind of safety Scott is or turns out to be. Getting rid of Gandy and his salary is worth it. Gandy has not been worth the money we were paying since he got here. If Stinch is anywhere close to where he was before he got hurt, I can't say that is a big loss in terms of production and we gain oh so much in cap space. I also like the potential of moving Brown to LT - assuming he can do it. Just becaise Roaf succeeded in moving doesn't mean this guy will (see Turley). We need another good lineman so if we took D'brick at #2, I wouldn't be too upset. I'm just really starting to doubt the trade opportunity is going to unfold (for value) and would much prefer taking a O-lineman, whose position is much less risky than picking a LB. You gotta love the moves. They're not earth shattering by any means, but they certainly are interesting.

04-07-2006, 12:58 PM	#57
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	And for the record, Arrington is better than Julian Peterson anyday, so if it's Peterson money he wants, give it to him. Wait a minute now, don't go putting stuff on the record. That stuff has a tendency to come back and bite you. lol

04-07-2006, 01:02 PM	#58
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	i saw on espn or nfl.com that he wants 9 mil and the other teams are not willing to pay and that is why he hasn't signed. screw that. we can get two players for that type of money. 9 mil is ridiculous. hye lavar get your head out yo asssss. if he was so special why was he sitting the bench for part of the year last year.

04-07-2006, 01:41 PM	#60
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	You guys think that Gandy is actually going to start for the Falcons? If so, how do you like that Smith/Grant-Gandy match ???