Brown to LT Permanent!

CheramieIII · 04-08-2006, 11:29 AM

Saints | Move of J. Brown to left tackle permanent
Sat, 8 Apr 2006 07:02:13 -0700

Jimmy Smith, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints head coach Sean Payton said the move of OT Jammal Brown to left tackle wasn't an experiment. "No, no, no, no. It's permanent," Payton said. "I know there'll be a lot speculated about the draft and how that move pertains to Jammal. But that move to left tackle is permanent."

I guess I was right all along and it's Hawk we're after!

CheramieIII · 04-08-2006, 11:29 AM

http://www.kffl.com/hotw/

Sorry here's the link.

saintbuck · 04-08-2006, 11:30 AM

Sean Payton is quoted saying that Jamal Brown will be playing left tackle this season no matter what happens in the draft. Surely we wont use a top 5 pick in the draft for a right tackle, would we ???

hagan714 · 04-08-2006, 12:00 PM

No way a lot of good RT in the draft and jon can do it with mayberry and a pick.

Crusader · 04-08-2006, 01:45 PM

It sure sounds like we gonna go defence in the draft...

...or getting a quarterback.

GoldRush26 · 04-08-2006, 02:14 PM

Well I guess if we're believing everything that the team is saying then we're drafting Mario Williams.

I'm still not believing it. I think we will still draft D'Brick, and this is just more pre-draft posturing. Why would a coach make such a crucial decision in early spring camps???? Furthermore, I think Hawk at #2 is too high. Call me crazy but I would RATHER have Williams than Hawk. Last time our D was good(in '00) it was due to a dominant D-line, Linebacking corp had that same group of nobodys we've always had.

gandhi1007 · 04-08-2006, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by GoldRush26

Last time our D was good(in '00) it was due to a dominant D-line, Linebacking corp had that same group of nobodys we've always had.

Yes, but the most dominating defense we've ever had was lead by 4 guys at the LB position by the names of Swilling, Jackson, Mills, & Johnson. We called them the Dome Patrol!

GoldRush26 · 04-08-2006, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by gandhi1007

Originally Posted by GoldRush26

Last time our D was good(in '00) it was due to a dominant D-line, Linebacking corp had that same group of nobodys we've always had.

Yes, but the most dominating defense we've ever had was lead by 4 guys at the LB position by the names of Swilling, Jackson, Mills, & Johnson. We called them the Dome Patrol!

OK...what does the Dome Patrol have to do with the here and now? That era was 13-15 years ago. NFL offenses have evolved significantly since then. In the process the 4-3 has proven to be far and away the most reliable D set there is. There's a reason that 90% of the league primarly runs a 4-3. Our current personnel favors a 4-3, so we should build in that direction, not continously look for an excuse to go back to the 3-4. The only D that has run consistently in a 3-4 with success for any length of time nowadays are the Steelers, and they have had the longest tenured coach in the NFL. He thouroughly knows his players and coaches.

To recreate the Dome Patrol today would require too much time to retool the entire D....as well as coaches that are competent enough to run it. As a first year coach, Payton just needs to be concerned with fielding the best team. We are close to being a good D as it is. We just need to fill a couple more slots.

gandhi1007 · 04-08-2006, 07:35 PM

OK...what does the Dome Patrol have to do with the here and now?

Because no matter what, that defense (the Dome Patrol) set the precedent of defensive play for this franchise.

Our current personnel favors a 4-3, so we should build in that direction

This part I agree on. With the personnel we currently have on the team. This would be our fastest fix. Simple help at the DT spot could help this team tremendously, but getting a stud LB to go along with role players like Fujita & Simmons could also do the same. Not to mention, playing the 3-4 would not be so much of a stretch, should we get that stud LB.

The only D that has run consistently in a 3-4 with success for any length of time nowadays are the Steelers

Huh? Didn't that 2000 Ravens defense play alot of 3-4? Doesn't that current Lovie Smith defense in Chicago play the 3-4 alot? And what about those 3 time Super Bowl champion Patriots-Didn't they play in a 3-4 formation? If the leaugue is 90% 4-3 oriented like you said, why are there always 3-4 defensive teams always in the top 5 defenses in the league? A defense is what you make of it from the personnel on your roster. Some teams, like Carolina, will reap more rewards by playing the 4-3 because of their peronnel. On the other hand, some teams like Pittsburgh & New England have teams more suited to run the 3-4.

blake6900 · 04-08-2006, 08:48 PM

The only D that has run consistently in a 3-4 with success for any length of time nowadays are the Steelers, and they have had the longest tenured coach in the NFL. He thouroughly knows his players and coaches.

The Patriots use a 3-4...as do the Ravens. I wouldn't call those defenses "chopped liver". The key to a successful 3-4 is the d-line, particularly the nose tackle. And if Johnathon Sullivan likes to eat I say let him and let's see if he can be the lump in the middle that can draw the doubleteam.

04-08-2006, 11:29 AM	#1
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Brown to LT Permanent! Saints \| Move of J. Brown to left tackle permanent Sat, 8 Apr 2006 07:02:13 -0700 Jimmy Smith, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints head coach Sean Payton said the move of OT Jammal Brown to left tackle wasn't an experiment. "No, no, no, no. It's permanent," Payton said. "I know there'll be a lot speculated about the draft and how that move pertains to Jammal. But that move to left tackle is permanent." I guess I was right all along and it's Hawk we're after!

04-08-2006, 11:30 AM	#3
saintbuck 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mamou, LA. Posts: 313	Its Permanent!!!! Sean Payton is quoted saying that Jamal Brown will be playing left tackle this season no matter what happens in the draft. Surely we wont use a top 5 pick in the draft for a right tackle, would we ???

04-08-2006, 12:00 PM	#4
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	RE: Its Permanent!!!! No way a lot of good RT in the draft and jon can do it with mayberry and a pick.

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Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	RE: Its Permanent!!!! It sure sounds like we gonna go defence in the draft... ...or getting a quarterback.

04-08-2006, 02:14 PM	#6
GoldRush26 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 594	Well I guess if we're believing everything that the team is saying then we're drafting Mario Williams. I'm still not believing it. I think we will still draft D'Brick, and this is just more pre-draft posturing. Why would a coach make such a crucial decision in early spring camps???? Furthermore, I think Hawk at #2 is too high. Call me crazy but I would RATHER have Williams than Hawk. Last time our D was good(in '00) it was due to a dominant D-line, Linebacking corp had that same group of nobodys we've always had.
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gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Originally Posted by GoldRush26 Last time our D was good(in '00) it was due to a dominant D-line, Linebacking corp had that same group of nobodys we've always had. Yes, but the most dominating defense we've ever had was lead by 4 guys at the LB position by the names of Swilling, Jackson, Mills, & Johnson. We called them the Dome Patrol!

04-08-2006, 06:12 PM	#8
GoldRush26 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 594	Originally Posted by gandhi1007 Originally Posted by GoldRush26 Last time our D was good(in '00) it was due to a dominant D-line, Linebacking corp had that same group of nobodys we've always had. Yes, but the most dominating defense we've ever had was lead by 4 guys at the LB position by the names of Swilling, Jackson, Mills, & Johnson. We called them the Dome Patrol! OK...what does the Dome Patrol have to do with the here and now? That era was 13-15 years ago. NFL offenses have evolved significantly since then. In the process the 4-3 has proven to be far and away the most reliable D set there is. There's a reason that 90% of the league primarly runs a 4-3. Our current personnel favors a 4-3, so we should build in that direction, not continously look for an excuse to go back to the 3-4. The only D that has run consistently in a 3-4 with success for any length of time nowadays are the Steelers, and they have had the longest tenured coach in the NFL. He thouroughly knows his players and coaches. To recreate the Dome Patrol today would require too much time to retool the entire D....as well as coaches that are competent enough to run it. As a first year coach, Payton just needs to be concerned with fielding the best team. We are close to being a good D as it is. We just need to fill a couple more slots.
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04-08-2006, 07:35 PM	#9
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	OK...what does the Dome Patrol have to do with the here and now? Because no matter what, that defense (the Dome Patrol) set the precedent of defensive play for this franchise. Our current personnel favors a 4-3, so we should build in that direction This part I agree on. With the personnel we currently have on the team. This would be our fastest fix. Simple help at the DT spot could help this team tremendously, but getting a stud LB to go along with role players like Fujita & Simmons could also do the same. Not to mention, playing the 3-4 would not be so much of a stretch, should we get that stud LB. The only D that has run consistently in a 3-4 with success for any length of time nowadays are the Steelers Huh? Didn't that 2000 Ravens defense play alot of 3-4? Doesn't that current Lovie Smith defense in Chicago play the 3-4 alot? And what about those 3 time Super Bowl champion Patriots-Didn't they play in a 3-4 formation? If the leaugue is 90% 4-3 oriented like you said, why are there always 3-4 defensive teams always in the top 5 defenses in the league? A defense is what you make of it from the personnel on your roster. Some teams, like Carolina, will reap more rewards by playing the 4-3 because of their peronnel. On the other hand, some teams like Pittsburgh & New England have teams more suited to run the 3-4.
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04-08-2006, 08:48 PM	#10
blake6900 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 182	The only D that has run consistently in a 3-4 with success for any length of time nowadays are the Steelers, and they have had the longest tenured coach in the NFL. He thouroughly knows his players and coaches. The Patriots use a 3-4...as do the Ravens. I wouldn't call those defenses "chopped liver". The key to a successful 3-4 is the d-line, particularly the nose tackle. And if Johnathon Sullivan likes to eat I say let him and let's see if he can be the lump in the middle that can draw the doubleteam.
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