Charles Grant Trade

saintswhodi · 04-11-2006, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by Boogro

Is that what you watch the games for? To see who gets double the most? Do you really believe Grant is that good? Are you willing to pay him that money? So, basically you are saying 2.5 sacks is acceptable and you are willing to be ok with this as long as it is Grant who gets double teamed. Also, it was Howard who played the majority at DT on passing situations.

A) At what point did I say Grant played the majority of the time at DT in passing situations. I just said he played there and wasn't suited for it. Oops.

B) What money are you talking about for Grant? Has he made a contract demand? Are he and the team in negotiations on a new deal? What? Why is that even a part of your already poor argument?

C) Grant is one of my favorite players, so you are damn right I watch to see what he's doing. I also replay games a second time, and I went to three live last season. You obviously saw zero games. Kudos to you.

D) I do believe Grant is very good. If a player can't have a down year, on a 3-13 team, where he was the only defender teams were worried about until LATE in the season when they started waking up to Will, after a hurricane that destroyed the city and forced the entire team to endure things no other NFL franchise in history had to, then we should just cut everybody and build a roster from 0 to 53 with none of the current players right? Good call.

saintswhodi · 04-11-2006, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by BrooksMustGo

At this point I want to see us deal Grant just to watch WhoDi's head explode....

My head wouldn't explode, but only a fool would say Grant isn't a good player. No shortage of those I guess.

D_it_up · 04-11-2006, 09:34 PM

I'm a big Charles Grant fan, also. I really like his play. He's giving it his all on every down. If we were going to acquire Jevon Walker, I'd rather it be in a trade down with the Packers with our 1st round pick for theirs, Walker, and a 3rd.

AllSaints · 04-11-2006, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by BrooksMustGo

Originally Posted by AllSaints

Ok I wouldnt mind that trade so we would get Javon and the would get Grant I like Charles Grant but Mario Williams is suppose to be the next julius peppers that too me sounds alright !! Will smith and Mario Willaims DEs Joe,Javon,Donte Wrs holy smokes !!

Let's not forget The Iron Man, Chase Lyman.

Oh but of course how could I forget our Right Hand Man Chase Lyman......

and Grant is a good player and he does not suck..... he is a very good player im just saying if we got Walker in a trade with Grant i wouldnt think it was a stupid trade............

Boogro · 04-11-2006, 09:42 PM

At what point did I say Grant played the majority of the time at DT in passing situations. I just said he played there and wasn't suited for it. Oops.

And how often was he at DT on passing situations? Roll your little film tape out and count one by one if you like.

B) What money are you talking about for Grant? Has he made a contract demand? Are he and the team in negotiations on a new deal? What? Why si that even a part of your already poor argument?

You don't think Grant is going to ask for top 10 money? Which averages about 5 mil a year and going up

Grant is one of my favorite players, so you are damn right I watch to see what he's doing. I also replay games a second time, and I went to three live last season. You obviously saw zero games. Kudos to you.

Sorry, I wasnt able to go to too many games, some people got destoyed with the saints by Katrina, but I did watch them and tell me how many time did he scratch his pecans during the games?

BrooksMustGo · 04-11-2006, 09:42 PM

Didn't Grant speak out against AB on the plane ride last season? That's MORE than enough reason to deal him right there.

saintsfan1313 · 04-11-2006, 09:42 PM

I like that idea better, Javon for Grant doesnt help us much.....we need to get something out of this.....but i think a 2nd would be more equal than a 3rd....yea, i like a 2nd more

Tobias-Reiper · 04-11-2006, 09:45 PM

I'll keep Grant. The young man has the talent. A little coaching will do wonders for him. All things equal, I think that he brings more to the table as DE than Walker would bring at WR.

BrooksMustGo · 04-11-2006, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

I'll keep Grant. The young man has the talent. A little coaching will do wonders for him. All things equal, I think that he brings more to the table as DE than Walker would bring at WR.

This could be. We should re-sign Grant to a long term deal now. We could deal W. Smith and get Walker instead?

saintsfan1313 · 04-11-2006, 09:50 PM

Hells no SMith aint goin anywhere......lets keep them both, trade down, draft Hawk, pick up an extra 2nd, get Mangold, then get Wroten or McNeil out of Auburn and go BPA and depth rest of the draft./....sound like a plan anyone????

04-11-2006, 09:30 PM	#51
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by Boogro Is that what you watch the games for? To see who gets double the most? Do you really believe Grant is that good? Are you willing to pay him that money? So, basically you are saying 2.5 sacks is acceptable and you are willing to be ok with this as long as it is Grant who gets double teamed. Also, it was Howard who played the majority at DT on passing situations. A) At what point did I say Grant played the majority of the time at DT in passing situations. I just said he played there and wasn't suited for it. Oops. B) What money are you talking about for Grant? Has he made a contract demand? Are he and the team in negotiations on a new deal? What? Why is that even a part of your already poor argument? C) Grant is one of my favorite players, so you are damn right I watch to see what he's doing. I also replay games a second time, and I went to three live last season. You obviously saw zero games. Kudos to you. D) I do believe Grant is very good. If a player can't have a down year, on a 3-13 team, where he was the only defender teams were worried about until LATE in the season when they started waking up to Will, after a hurricane that destroyed the city and forced the entire team to endure things no other NFL franchise in history had to, then we should just cut everybody and build a roster from 0 to 53 with none of the current players right? Good call.

04-11-2006, 09:32 PM	#52
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by BrooksMustGo At this point I want to see us deal Grant just to watch WhoDi's head explode.... My head wouldn't explode, but only a fool would say Grant isn't a good player. No shortage of those I guess.

04-11-2006, 09:40 PM	#54
AllSaints Breakin Records Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Deville, Louisiana Posts: 2,167	Originally Posted by BrooksMustGo Originally Posted by AllSaints Ok I wouldnt mind that trade so we would get Javon and the would get Grant I like Charles Grant but Mario Williams is suppose to be the next julius peppers that too me sounds alright !! Will smith and Mario Willaims DEs Joe,Javon,Donte Wrs holy smokes !! Let's not forget The Iron Man, Chase Lyman. Oh but of course how could I forget our Right Hand Man Chase Lyman...... and Grant is a good player and he does not suck..... he is a very good player im just saying if we got Walker in a trade with Grant i wouldnt think it was a stupid trade............

04-11-2006, 09:42 PM	#55
Boogro Nose Digger Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 341	At what point did I say Grant played the majority of the time at DT in passing situations. I just said he played there and wasn't suited for it. Oops. And how often was he at DT on passing situations? Roll your little film tape out and count one by one if you like. B) What money are you talking about for Grant? Has he made a contract demand? Are he and the team in negotiations on a new deal? What? Why si that even a part of your already poor argument? You don't think Grant is going to ask for top 10 money? Which averages about 5 mil a year and going up Grant is one of my favorite players, so you are damn right I watch to see what he's doing. I also replay games a second time, and I went to three live last season. You obviously saw zero games. Kudos to you. Sorry, I wasnt able to go to too many games, some people got destoyed with the saints by Katrina, but I did watch them and tell me how many time did he scratch his pecans during the games?

04-11-2006, 09:47 PM	#59
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper I'll keep Grant. The young man has the talent. A little coaching will do wonders for him. All things equal, I think that he brings more to the table as DE than Walker would bring at WR. This could be. We should re-sign Grant to a long term deal now. We could deal W. Smith and get Walker instead?

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04-11-2006, 09:34 PM	#53
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	I'm a big Charles Grant fan, also. I really like his play. He's giving it his all on every down. If we were going to acquire Jevon Walker, I'd rather it be in a trade down with the Packers with our 1st round pick for theirs, Walker, and a 3rd.

04-11-2006, 09:42 PM	#57
saintsfan1313 El Mero Mero Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Kingsville, Tx Posts: 669	I like that idea better, Javon for Grant doesnt help us much.....we need to get something out of this.....but i think a 2nd would be more equal than a 3rd....yea, i like a 2nd more

04-11-2006, 09:45 PM	#58
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	I'll keep Grant. The young man has the talent. A little coaching will do wonders for him. All things equal, I think that he brings more to the table as DE than Walker would bring at WR.

04-11-2006, 09:50 PM	#60
saintsfan1313 El Mero Mero Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Kingsville, Tx Posts: 669	Hells no SMith aint goin anywhere......lets keep them both, trade down, draft Hawk, pick up an extra 2nd, get Mangold, then get Wroten or McNeil out of Auburn and go BPA and depth rest of the draft./....sound like a plan anyone????