i pose a ? to you guys

pakowitz · 04-17-2006, 07:12 PM

the jets pick is worth 1800 pts... htowns pick is 3000...so they would still have to make up 1200 pts... their first next year is worth 800 so htown might do it for the 4th overall a first next year and either a 2nd next year or early 2nd this year but i doubt it

hagan714 · 04-17-2006, 07:40 PM

Both #1(2440),2(550),3(235)= 3225 Just enough pt wise. but bush will cost a bit more, probly at least another 2 or 3 next year.
so both 1s, and 3 this year and a 1 next would do it. 3475 (475 = 11th pick in the second)
if the 800 holds, it's value 21st pick, should go higher than that.
Odds would be that houston could end up with 2 #1 picks in the top 15 next year.
Jets would have a 2, 3, and two 4s left for this year and no #1 next, but their hand is on the bush!

papz · 04-17-2006, 08:00 PM

It would have to be Ricky Williams-esque... they've been pretty tight lipped there in H-town. Good poker face.

papz · 04-17-2006, 08:29 PM

NFL Network's Adam Shefter reports there are "legitimate reasons" to believe the Texans will not draft Reggie Bush with the first pick of the NFL Draft.
Shefter cites multiple sources from inside and outside of Reggie Bush's camp that the Texans are more likely to draft Mario Williams or trade down. The Texans haven't approached Bush about a possible contract and key members of the organization didn't meet Bush when he was in town. This could be your typical pre-draft smokescreen, but Shefter was adamant this wasn't the case. Need-wise, it makes plenty of sense. Apr. 17 - 8:10 pm et

Time for them to see who's interested...

BrooksMustGo · 04-17-2006, 08:55 PM

Let me see if I have this right then....

Mario Williams > Reggie Bush

but somehow

Mario Williams < Charles Grant?

BlackandBlue · 04-17-2006, 09:06 PM

Shefter's sources?

a man walks into a bar.....

saintswhodi · 04-17-2006, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by BrooksMustGo

Let me see if I have this right then....

Mario Williams > Reggie Bush

but somehow

Mario Williams < Charles Grant?

One college player could be better than another college player. Grant is a proven NFL player. Next issue. Houston actually has no need for a RB. They could use a defender like Williams. Any other issue, i'd gladly clear them up for you. 8)

BiggPoppaFro4 · 04-17-2006, 10:16 PM

If Houston passes on Bush and we get the chance, good lord are we gonna have some calls...I really hope that happens...of course that's about as likely as hearing one of those mayoral candidates actually sound like they had a friggin clue

That pick is so expensive to jump up to, I doubt anyone can make it. I think we taught the world a lesson with our Ricky debacle. But I still think that gives us a better hand than Houston. And yeah, I don't think H-town needs a RB, but could you pass on someone like this? LT only more talented (if that's possible)?

jnormand · 04-18-2006, 12:48 AM

Good question B&B. You have to think that replacing Martin has to be a priorty this draft. Haven't even thought of that.....but the real question is wether or not the Texans would be WILLING to trade away Reggie Bush.....hmmmm.

chRxis · 04-18-2006, 07:07 PM

hawk won't last past green bay.... if he does he is DEFINITELY not getting past the 49ers who lost peterson and carter this offseason... i still think the best situation is to trade with the jets for #4 and #29 at least... i would also love to see skyler green in black and gold uniform also....

04-17-2006, 07:40 PM	#22
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Both #1(2440),2(550),3(235)= 3225 Just enough pt wise. but bush will cost a bit more, probly at least another 2 or 3 next year. so both 1s, and 3 this year and a 1 next would do it. 3475 (475 = 11th pick in the second) if the 800 holds, it's value 21st pick, should go higher than that. Odds would be that houston could end up with 2 #1 picks in the top 15 next year. Jets would have a 2, 3, and two 4s left for this year and no #1 next, but their hand is on the bush!
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04-17-2006, 09:31 PM	#27
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by BrooksMustGo Let me see if I have this right then.... Mario Williams > Reggie Bush but somehow Mario Williams < Charles Grant? One college player could be better than another college player. Grant is a proven NFL player. Next issue. Houston actually has no need for a RB. They could use a defender like Williams. Any other issue, i'd gladly clear them up for you. 8)

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BiggPoppaFro4 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 231	If Houston passes on Bush and we get the chance, good lord are we gonna have some calls...I really hope that happens...of course that's about as likely as hearing one of those mayoral candidates actually sound like they had a friggin clue That pick is so expensive to jump up to, I doubt anyone can make it. I think we taught the world a lesson with our Ricky debacle. But I still think that gives us a better hand than Houston. And yeah, I don't think H-town needs a RB, but could you pass on someone like this? LT only more talented (if that's possible)?
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04-17-2006, 07:12 PM	#21
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	the jets pick is worth 1800 pts... htowns pick is 3000...so they would still have to make up 1200 pts... their first next year is worth 800 so htown might do it for the 4th overall a first next year and either a 2nd next year or early 2nd this year but i doubt it

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04-17-2006, 08:00 PM	#23
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	It would have to be Ricky Williams-esque... they've been pretty tight lipped there in H-town. Good poker face.

04-17-2006, 08:29 PM	#24
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	NFL Network's Adam Shefter reports there are "legitimate reasons" to believe the Texans will not draft Reggie Bush with the first pick of the NFL Draft. Shefter cites multiple sources from inside and outside of Reggie Bush's camp that the Texans are more likely to draft Mario Williams or trade down. The Texans haven't approached Bush about a possible contract and key members of the organization didn't meet Bush when he was in town. This could be your typical pre-draft smokescreen, but Shefter was adamant this wasn't the case. Need-wise, it makes plenty of sense. Apr. 17 - 8:10 pm et Time for them to see who's interested...

04-17-2006, 08:55 PM	#25
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	Let me see if I have this right then.... Mario Williams > Reggie Bush but somehow Mario Williams < Charles Grant?

04-17-2006, 09:06 PM	#26
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Shefter's sources? a man walks into a bar.....

04-18-2006, 12:48 AM	#29
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,662	Good question B&B. You have to think that replacing Martin has to be a priorty this draft. Haven't even thought of that.....but the real question is wether or not the Texans would be WILLING to trade away Reggie Bush.....hmmmm.

04-18-2006, 07:07 PM	#30
chRxis 500th Post Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 690	hawk won't last past green bay.... if he does he is DEFINITELY not getting past the 49ers who lost peterson and carter this offseason... i still think the best situation is to trade with the jets for #4 and #29 at least... i would also love to see skyler green in black and gold uniform also....