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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by saintswhodi I don't think so. Signing Brees has served it's purpose 1) It excited the fans. 2) Excited fans bought up gobs of season tickets. It has already paid for itself, AND we had the money, AND ...

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Old 04-25-2006, 04:57 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by saintswhodi
I don't think so. Signing Brees has served it's purpose 1) It excited the fans. 2) Excited fans bought up gobs of season tickets. It has already paid for itself, AND we had the money, AND we aren't pigeon-holed in the draft. I look at it as an investment they made. By the season ticket sales, it was obviously a good investment. So if Brees never takes a snap, pockets his $10 mil and is not back next year, he still served an important purpose, he brought fans back to the Saints, and brought new fans with him when we signed him. IMO, that was worth the $10 mil we gave him this year. If he plays, great. But I wouldn't consider the money a waste if he didn;t. It's not like it cash strapped us, we are still 14 mil plus under the cap.
if i may add to this.........what would we have paid brooks? and as far as who had decisions in the draft, the coaches have great imput, but it all comes down to money, and that is loomis department...........what benson will and will not spend...........smitty
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Old 04-25-2006, 05:04 PM   #22
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[quote]If he plays, great. But I wouldn't consider the money a waste if he didn;t. It's not like it cash strapped us, we are still 14 mil plus under the cap.

You think if he doesn't play great those ticket sales are gonna stay like that? Although Benson really doesn't care what happens as long as he get's his.
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Old 04-25-2006, 06:15 PM   #23
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If he plays, great. But I wouldn't consider the money a waste if he didn;t. It's not like it cash strapped us, we are still 14 mil plus under the cap.

You think if he doesn't play great those ticket sales are gonna stay like that? Although Benson really doesn't care what happens as long as he get's his.
Well, as far as I understand, they long ago sold about 66% more SEASON tickets than they did last year at the same time. How much better do they have to do? IT doesn't matter what happens with Brees now, them puppies is sold. lol
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Old 04-25-2006, 06:44 PM   #24
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Like I said before Plan B will need to keep the fans comming and bying those beverages. Winning is going to be the thing to accomplish this feat. If there is no W's the dome I'm sure will be empty come week 12
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Old 04-25-2006, 06:45 PM   #25
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Yes. But from a fan's standpoint, is this a quick cash-in for a man with no intent to keep the team in New Orleans? I know New Orleans isn't a big business market, but I'm not sure if the cities economy could withstand losing the Saints. Even though I don't live there, it is my homestate and I've been a Saint's fan since I could remember. It just worries me. I'd like to see him sell the team to a native who was intent on winning and keeping the Saints where they're at.
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Old 04-25-2006, 06:54 PM   #26
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Whoa bro, I understand the sentiment, but I can't put myself in that mindset right now. I know some people might, and they may wanna talk about that albatross hanging over our heads, but I can't. Right now, I am telling myself everything is going pretty good in saintsland, and I don't wanna throw bad karma in there at this moment. But I know how you feel, believe me. It's always there until something gets resolved long term.
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Old 04-25-2006, 07:07 PM   #27
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Yeah. I was kind of starting a seperate thread within this one. Bad joo joo.
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Old 04-25-2006, 08:03 PM   #28
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What San Diego team were YOU watching? They were the absolute worst team in the league. As bad as the Saints were last year, they were Super Bowl contenders by comparison. Which is why Eli refused to sign with them, dontcha recall? The SD offense put up huge numbers, mostly after the team was well behind, had the 5th worse time of possesion, in part due to the serious number of turnovers (29th in TO margin) and the porous defense (27th in Total D). Both Brees and Flutie were running for their lives when they weren't being sacked 31 times.

SD got better in 2004 because they "drafted" Rivers, got 2 FA stud linemen and picked up 3 defensive FAs. And Brees wasn't coming off of a 360 degree tear of his labrum (career ending, usually) and a partial tear of the rotator cuff (see Chad Pennington's 2005). The knock on Brees was that he didn't play well under a pressure rush, which was alleviated in 2004, but the line wasn't as good in 2005, so he struggled. Our line's not going to be nearly as good, even if we do draft Fergueson, so expect Brees to get knocked around quite a bit. Nothing like hitting a recently surgically repaired shoulder a couple of times to warrant going to the bench (see Chad Pennington, again.)

You've got to be better prepared to make such uninformed statements. Your judgment is flawed. There must be a contigency plan, and drafting Lienart may be the only way to extract the most we can out of this situation.

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Old 04-26-2006, 01:22 PM   #29
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You lost me at draft Leinart , as he doese not know what pressure is and can't get the ball downfield. But Kudos on the rest of the analysis
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So we should draft Lienert so he can run for his life too and get hurt and collect allot of money for it? I'd like Hawk, but I think we gotta go with D-Brick to protect our investment. If not, we've gotta pick up some lineman later.
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