holy sheeettttttttttttttt, texans sign mario UPDATED!!!

LongTimeFan · 04-28-2006, 10:20 PM

spkb...

They will call, and often.

smyce · 04-28-2006, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

lets just say noone calls us, i think we take bush and look for someone to trade for him. if they aren't willing to tarde for him thinking we won't take him then we should take him

Absolutely. We have to take him if we are making the pick. I think some teams (jets included) may think we are bluffing but taking him off the board is what needs to happen by pick 2 whether we trade down or we make the pick.

Worst case scenario then is us being stuck with Bush, which doesnt exactly suck.

BiggPoppaFro4 · 04-28-2006, 10:21 PM

I couldn't get behind that idea with Leinart, but I can actually see it with Bush. One scenario I see is we take Bush, GB takes Hawk, we trade guys and get Walker, plus an extra pick or two.

smyce · 04-28-2006, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by BiggPoppaFro4

I couldn't get behind that idea with Leinart, but I can actually see it with Bush. One scenario I see is we take Bush, GB takes Hawk, we trade guys and get Walker, plus an extra pick or two.

Hmm...this is a nice idea.

spkb25 · 04-28-2006, 10:23 PM

smyce we need one of their thirds too as far as the jets

JimBone · 04-28-2006, 10:24 PM

The Saints will get calls...but lets face it, no one is going to pay a ransom for him...if that was the case, someone would have offered it to the Texans. They would have loved to trade down but no one offered what they wanted. What makes you think that will change? If the Jets call, take 4, 29, 35, and next years number 2...same thing with the 49ers...if not, take Reggie Bush hands down and get to work on getting the ball in his hands...and then apologize to Aaron Stecker and Michael Lewis because they are now out of a job.

GoldRush26 · 04-28-2006, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by JimBone

The Saints will get calls...but lets face it, no one is going to pay a ransom for him...if that was the case, someone would have offered it to the Texans. They would have loved to trade down but no one offered what they wanted. What makes you think that will change? If the Jets call, take 4, 29, 35, and next years number 2...same thing with the 49ers...if not, take Reggie Bush hands down and get to work on getting the ball in his hands...and then apologize to Aaron Stecker and Michael Lewis because they are now out of a job.

It's harder to trade up to the number 1 pick than it is to trade to the number 2. All teams(except the '99 Saints) live by that point chart that is used to assign value to draft picks.

The Jets don't even want to give up their third rounder, so no way that they would give us their second.

If they don't want to pay up lets take Reggie. I'm tired of teams thinking they can take us for a joke and that we will just lean over and take it.

Euphoria · 04-28-2006, 10:34 PM

yes me too...

BiggPoppaFro4 · 04-28-2006, 10:38 PM

I read a Jets fans say "3rd this year = 2nd rnd next year....give it to them and be done with it"...not bad, I can go with that.

Does this mean we are still in the race, or percieved race, for Walker?

saintswhodi · 04-28-2006, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by GoldRush26

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

Originally Posted by BlackandBlue

would this mean we basically inherited the #1 pick, as far as trade value is concerned?

Yup. Exactly right.

Not exactly. Teams are still using the point system with respect to the #2 slot, as opposed to the #1 slot. So we have slightly lower value for our slot than the #1 spot. There are still a very limited number of teams that have the firepower to move up, unless future draft picks are on the table, which i haven't heard anything about yet.

Um, yes exactly. Reggie Bush IS the number one pick, even in the two slot. The biggest prospect to come out in forever. The chart is a GUIDE, it isn't written in stone. The value of Bush at number two is as if it was a number one. Players guide the chart, the chart doesn't guide the players.

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smyce 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cedar Falls, IA Posts: 184	Originally Posted by spkb25 lets just say noone calls us, i think we take bush and look for someone to trade for him. if they aren't willing to tarde for him thinking we won't take him then we should take him Absolutely. We have to take him if we are making the pick. I think some teams (jets included) may think we are bluffing but taking him off the board is what needs to happen by pick 2 whether we trade down or we make the pick. Worst case scenario then is us being stuck with Bush, which doesnt exactly suck.

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BiggPoppaFro4 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 231	I couldn't get behind that idea with Leinart, but I can actually see it with Bush. One scenario I see is we take Bush, GB takes Hawk, we trade guys and get Walker, plus an extra pick or two.
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smyce 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cedar Falls, IA Posts: 184	Originally Posted by BiggPoppaFro4 I couldn't get behind that idea with Leinart, but I can actually see it with Bush. One scenario I see is we take Bush, GB takes Hawk, we trade guys and get Walker, plus an extra pick or two. Hmm...this is a nice idea.

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GoldRush26 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 594	Originally Posted by JimBone The Saints will get calls...but lets face it, no one is going to pay a ransom for him...if that was the case, someone would have offered it to the Texans. They would have loved to trade down but no one offered what they wanted. What makes you think that will change? If the Jets call, take 4, 29, 35, and next years number 2...same thing with the 49ers...if not, take Reggie Bush hands down and get to work on getting the ball in his hands...and then apologize to Aaron Stecker and Michael Lewis because they are now out of a job. It's harder to trade up to the number 1 pick than it is to trade to the number 2. All teams(except the '99 Saints) live by that point chart that is used to assign value to draft picks. The Jets don't even want to give up their third rounder, so no way that they would give us their second. If they don't want to pay up lets take Reggie. I'm tired of teams thinking they can take us for a joke and that we will just lean over and take it.
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saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by GoldRush26 Originally Posted by saintswhodi Originally Posted by BlackandBlue would this mean we basically inherited the #1 pick, as far as trade value is concerned? Yup. Exactly right. Not exactly. Teams are still using the point system with respect to the #2 slot, as opposed to the #1 slot. So we have slightly lower value for our slot than the #1 spot. There are still a very limited number of teams that have the firepower to move up, unless future draft picks are on the table, which i haven't heard anything about yet. Um, yes exactly. Reggie Bush IS the number one pick, even in the two slot. The biggest prospect to come out in forever. The chart is a GUIDE, it isn't written in stone. The value of Bush at number two is as if it was a number one. Players guide the chart, the chart doesn't guide the players.