Analyst doubts Saints will stay in N.O.

Saintsfan66 · 05-02-2006, 06:37 PM

It's all good though. If the Saints win big this year, your looking at America's team. Screw the Cowboys. I know alot of people around the county are pulling for the Saints and for the area becouse of what we went through last year. I have friends in Canada that I keep posted on Saints activity becouse when the Saints were getting coverage, in Mora's day, they got to see some games that televised up there and are fans still today but since we have been slumped, they dont play the games up there, they only play the top teams.. So, all we need to do it win and small market will change to big money. Just like when every building in N.O. had Saints banners hanging when we won the division for the first time and the city went nuts.. The Patriots did it, San Diego did it, the Rams did it, so I'm sure we can do it. If the niners can suck like they do these days, we can kick ass like they used to, lol.

Saintsfan66 · 05-02-2006, 06:42 PM

oH, by the way.. Speaking to a few Raiders fans from the Oakland area, they cant give away 49ers tickets becouse the fans dont want to go, with the team being so horrible. All the 9er fans are getting into the Raiders, Charger, and Seahawks. Move the Saints is stupid.. We hold the league record for ticket sales to winning percentage beating out the mighty Packers. The Saints, entire history included, averages something like 70,000 ticket sales per home game and that is with a huge losing margin and is more then the Super Dome holds today becouse Tulane Stadium was selling out 100,000 seats with 2 win seasons for years.. That is the real reason the NFL hasn't allowed the Saints to move yet and likely wont as long as we continue to show up. The NFL -thinks- the market is there if the Saints win and buisnesses get interested with the winning.

Saintsfan66 · 05-02-2006, 06:45 PM

Which does bring me to my next point, final one also, the owner of the Bills doesn't think he can keep his team in Buffalo, the Vikings have done everything within thier own power to make the team uninteresting which makes me think they will move since the state refuses to help them at all on a stadium deal at any level, and the Chargers are a REAL prime suspect for relocation, especialy considering that the Charger fans will still have thier team in the same state which could be a little sympathy from the NFL.

LSUJeremy · 05-02-2006, 08:49 PM

I LOVE seeing the 49ers suck. Montana, Craig, Rice, Taylor, etc. tried to ruin my childhood with all their last second victories against us.

One thing I'll never forget is the one time the roles were reversed and Morten Andersen hit 60yd bomb of a FG as time ran out to win. I don't know that I ever heard the Dome that loud, and my dad had season tickets for over ten years. I swear the Dome was shaking.

F all 49ers forever.

hagan714 · 05-03-2006, 08:49 AM

The suites are a big key if and only if at least 90% of the rest of the seating is sold, they become less of a factor. This year we have a bit of a break seeing they are not going to be finished.
What yall have to do is put heat on the elected officals to change the tax codes there in the city on the downtown buisnesses. The oil companies were taxed out and have not returned. That was the stupidest thing the mayor and the city council could have done. There are other tax issues that are killing the City and the Saints but this would be a great place to start. Louisiana is the chemical capitol of the country, off shore oil port , and the second largest port period. So why are these companies forced out? They are the ones to buy the suites. They are the big money companies to the state and the city. Give ONE Shell Square back to Shell Oil.
Time is now to change the city and you guys have the VOTE so in the end it rest with the people. Old ways are hard to change but now is the time. Katrine wiped out the city but let it wipe out the old ways too.
Chocolate city or not which in itself should have been political sucide. I will get of my soap box now and wont even bring up the death tax issue here. Correct me if I am wrong, please give me some hope.

FatiusJeebs · 05-03-2006, 09:11 AM

Man this kills me. I feel bad about the fact that I can't directly support the Saints because I live in Miami. I pray that you and your city do get together and really fill up that dome for the sake of the team. If I can somehow...someway make it to a Saints home game...I will definitely get the best seats I can. Good luck to you all...I'll be watching on my DirectTV.

hagan714 · 05-03-2006, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by Saintsfan66

Which does bring me to my next point, final one also, the owner of the Bills doesn't think he can keep his team in Buffalo, the Vikings have done everything within thier own power to make the team uninteresting which makes me think they will move since the state refuses to help them at all on a stadium deal at any level, and the Chargers are a REAL prime suspect for relocation, especialy considering that the Charger fans will still have thier team in the same state which could be a little sympathy from the NFL.

The Bills like the Saints are in a cities that is going through a slow death. The change in the buisness over the past 30 years have left them behind. Atlanta, my favorite example, has bet right on the buisnesses it brought in and saved the city. We have not! Quality of living attracted them as well as tax breaks. Long and hard road but it can be done.
Vikings will not leave Minnesota. The loss of North Stars was a hard lesson to learn. The city learned to watch it's back when dealing with the likes of Norm Green and and the Gunde Bro. Yes I have a Norm Green Sucks t-shirt and I wear it when ever I am in Dallas. Plus building a dome stadium in Minni awas the stupidest thing you could do in an area were 4-6 months of the year is winter. Most of the fans want the frozen tundra back, 40 for 40 and the purple people eaters. Scandi's love the image. They do not like the dome, the hardest ticket in town is to Bill Murrays minor league baseball team ST. Pual Saints because it is outdoors and well it is Bill's version of family fun too. If you go it is a ticket worth getting.
As for the chargers I can not say. I say it is early into the stadium deal I think.
We blew it by not putting some of the money the US gov. and others gave us into a new stadium site at least. I see a move to Mississippi's Gulf Coast the most likely of all possibilities in the future.

frankeefrank · 05-03-2006, 06:15 PM

'I'm not optimistic. The Saints have an incredibly eager-beaver staff of 16 ticket sellers who I saw on the phone today making cold calls trying to sell season tickets. The Saints know and I think the people of New Orleans know that if the Superdome is not sold out eight times this year and sold out again next year, that team is moving.

'They've got over 100 suites and half the business community is not back. Who's going to buy those suites?

CONTRADICTION
Regular working people can't afford suites... That's why they are suites. Don't tell you average fan to put his money where his mouth is whe you are really saying companies shoudl do that.
Oh, and the SuperDome was sold out like 27 straight times before last season...
Then the owner starts talking about moving.
let's see why no sell out last year?
This guy has no idea what he is talking about.
The Saints might move, but let's call it what it is... A GREEDY OWNER... Who knows noting about football.
You mean to tell me if the Saints had the Patriots record the past 4 years they wouldn't be america's team?
C'mon... New Orleans was like Vegas... Strip Clubs, Casinos, Great food and Great people... Everyone in the nation would have come down to watch.

FatiusJeebs · 05-04-2006, 03:18 PM

Frankee has a point. There is a reason why your city has hosted the most Super Bowls.

hagan714 · 05-05-2006, 08:14 AM

Party town.

05-02-2006, 06:37 PM	#21
Saintsfan66 Registered Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 58	It's all good though. If the Saints win big this year, your looking at America's team. Screw the Cowboys. I know alot of people around the county are pulling for the Saints and for the area becouse of what we went through last year. I have friends in Canada that I keep posted on Saints activity becouse when the Saints were getting coverage, in Mora's day, they got to see some games that televised up there and are fans still today but since we have been slumped, they dont play the games up there, they only play the top teams.. So, all we need to do it win and small market will change to big money. Just like when every building in N.O. had Saints banners hanging when we won the division for the first time and the city went nuts.. The Patriots did it, San Diego did it, the Rams did it, so I'm sure we can do it. If the niners can suck like they do these days, we can kick ass like they used to, lol.
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05-02-2006, 06:42 PM	#22
Saintsfan66 Registered Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 58	oH, by the way.. Speaking to a few Raiders fans from the Oakland area, they cant give away 49ers tickets becouse the fans dont want to go, with the team being so horrible. All the 9er fans are getting into the Raiders, Charger, and Seahawks. Move the Saints is stupid.. We hold the league record for ticket sales to winning percentage beating out the mighty Packers. The Saints, entire history included, averages something like 70,000 ticket sales per home game and that is with a huge losing margin and is more then the Super Dome holds today becouse Tulane Stadium was selling out 100,000 seats with 2 win seasons for years.. That is the real reason the NFL hasn't allowed the Saints to move yet and likely wont as long as we continue to show up. The NFL -thinks- the market is there if the Saints win and buisnesses get interested with the winning.
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05-02-2006, 06:45 PM	#23
Saintsfan66 Registered Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 58	Which does bring me to my next point, final one also, the owner of the Bills doesn't think he can keep his team in Buffalo, the Vikings have done everything within thier own power to make the team uninteresting which makes me think they will move since the state refuses to help them at all on a stadium deal at any level, and the Chargers are a REAL prime suspect for relocation, especialy considering that the Charger fans will still have thier team in the same state which could be a little sympathy from the NFL.
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05-02-2006, 08:49 PM	#24
LSUJeremy 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 472	I LOVE seeing the 49ers suck. Montana, Craig, Rice, Taylor, etc. tried to ruin my childhood with all their last second victories against us. One thing I'll never forget is the one time the roles were reversed and Morten Andersen hit 60yd bomb of a FG as time ran out to win. I don't know that I ever heard the Dome that loud, and my dad had season tickets for over ten years. I swear the Dome was shaking. F all 49ers forever.
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05-03-2006, 08:49 AM	#25
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	The suites are a big key if and only if at least 90% of the rest of the seating is sold, they become less of a factor. This year we have a bit of a break seeing they are not going to be finished. What yall have to do is put heat on the elected officals to change the tax codes there in the city on the downtown buisnesses. The oil companies were taxed out and have not returned. That was the stupidest thing the mayor and the city council could have done. There are other tax issues that are killing the City and the Saints but this would be a great place to start. Louisiana is the chemical capitol of the country, off shore oil port , and the second largest port period. So why are these companies forced out? They are the ones to buy the suites. They are the big money companies to the state and the city. Give ONE Shell Square back to Shell Oil. Time is now to change the city and you guys have the VOTE so in the end it rest with the people. Old ways are hard to change but now is the time. Katrine wiped out the city but let it wipe out the old ways too. Chocolate city or not which in itself should have been political sucide. I will get of my soap box now and wont even bring up the death tax issue here. Correct me if I am wrong, please give me some hope.
	"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins

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05-03-2006, 09:11 AM	#26
FatiusJeebs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 973	Man this kills me. I feel bad about the fact that I can't directly support the Saints because I live in Miami. I pray that you and your city do get together and really fill up that dome for the sake of the team. If I can somehow...someway make it to a Saints home game...I will definitely get the best seats I can. Good luck to you all...I'll be watching on my DirectTV.
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05-03-2006, 09:24 AM	#27
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Originally Posted by Saintsfan66 Which does bring me to my next point, final one also, the owner of the Bills doesn't think he can keep his team in Buffalo, the Vikings have done everything within thier own power to make the team uninteresting which makes me think they will move since the state refuses to help them at all on a stadium deal at any level, and the Chargers are a REAL prime suspect for relocation, especialy considering that the Charger fans will still have thier team in the same state which could be a little sympathy from the NFL. The Bills like the Saints are in a cities that is going through a slow death. The change in the buisness over the past 30 years have left them behind. Atlanta, my favorite example, has bet right on the buisnesses it brought in and saved the city. We have not! Quality of living attracted them as well as tax breaks. Long and hard road but it can be done. Vikings will not leave Minnesota. The loss of North Stars was a hard lesson to learn. The city learned to watch it's back when dealing with the likes of Norm Green and and the Gunde Bro. Yes I have a Norm Green Sucks t-shirt and I wear it when ever I am in Dallas. Plus building a dome stadium in Minni awas the stupidest thing you could do in an area were 4-6 months of the year is winter. Most of the fans want the frozen tundra back, 40 for 40 and the purple people eaters. Scandi's love the image. They do not like the dome, the hardest ticket in town is to Bill Murrays minor league baseball team ST. Pual Saints because it is outdoors and well it is Bill's version of family fun too. If you go it is a ticket worth getting. As for the chargers I can not say. I say it is early into the stadium deal I think. We blew it by not putting some of the money the US gov. and others gave us into a new stadium site at least. I see a move to Mississippi's Gulf Coast the most likely of all possibilities in the future.
	"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins

05-03-2006, 06:15 PM	#28
frankeefrank 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 775	'I'm not optimistic. The Saints have an incredibly eager-beaver staff of 16 ticket sellers who I saw on the phone today making cold calls trying to sell season tickets. The Saints know and I think the people of New Orleans know that if the Superdome is not sold out eight times this year and sold out again next year, that team is moving. 'They've got over 100 suites and half the business community is not back. Who's going to buy those suites? CONTRADICTION Regular working people can't afford suites... That's why they are suites. Don't tell you average fan to put his money where his mouth is whe you are really saying companies shoudl do that. Oh, and the SuperDome was sold out like 27 straight times before last season... Then the owner starts talking about moving. let's see why no sell out last year? This guy has no idea what he is talking about. The Saints might move, but let's call it what it is... A GREEDY OWNER... Who knows noting about football. You mean to tell me if the Saints had the Patriots record the past 4 years they wouldn't be america's team? C'mon... New Orleans was like Vegas... Strip Clubs, Casinos, Great food and Great people... Everyone in the nation would have come down to watch.
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05-04-2006, 03:18 PM	#29
FatiusJeebs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 973	Frankee has a point. There is a reason why your city has hosted the most Super Bowls.
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05-05-2006, 08:14 AM	#30
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Party town.