Stallworth Jacksonville

gandhi1007 · 05-14-2006, 01:33 PM

In Stallworth's defense, he did have "Fumbles the Clown" throwing him the ball (which was never in stride I might ad).

saintswhodi · 05-14-2006, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by gandhi1007

In Stallworth's defense, he did have "Fumbles the Clown" throwing him the ball (which was never in stride I might ad).

EXACTLY. How hard is that to understand? He had one of the most inconsistent QBs in the league throwing him the ball his whole career. LEt's see, could an inconsistent WR be the product of an inconsistent QB if he is not the prime target 95% of the time? Ding ding ding.

JimBone, what about Santana Moss? And David Boston? You seem to wanna explain off any good receiver as having issues. Guess what? Donte had issues, a run in with the law, so they wanna get rid of him. What about Marty Booker? Nate Burleson? Plax Burress? Joey Gallaway when he was with Seattle? Terry Glenn? The league is littered with good receiver who have been traded or allowed to go to other teams. Doesn't mean a player isn't a stud. If we keep Donte, get ready for some crow.

saintsrule · 05-15-2006, 02:49 AM

I hope they keep Donte'.

LongTimeFan · 05-15-2006, 06:30 AM

With a new coach and Brees in town it would be crazy to get rid of Stallworth now, at least let's see how he does with Drees at the helm.

Saintsfan66 · 05-15-2006, 10:42 AM

I'll be plan sick, I mean sick, if we trade off stallworth. Stallworth can step up if JoE goes down again and fill in at #1 better then anyone else we have and considering Joe's age, we need a young talented Wideout like him. Please!! Please!! Dont trade off Donte.

LKelley67 · 05-15-2006, 11:52 AM

whodi, with philly there could be plenty. hard to throw names out if they haven't been rumored as on the block. but how bout these-

cb sheldon brown for stallworth and any other cb besides mackenzie they want. wasn't that fred thomas they wanted a coupla yrs back?

i'd say winston justice ot but NO could have had him if they wanted him. what about old runyon with a 2007 3rd? i didn't realize tra thomas ot was only a year younger than runyon. they're both pretty good for another year or two.

cb lito sheppard is a young all pro stud to me, i would go stall, thomas AND bennett who they could also be interested in to have another corner even better than mackenzie.

saintswhodi · 05-15-2006, 12:09 PM

If Sheldon Brown or Lito Shepperd were included, I couldn't argue with that. But I highly doubt the Eagles would part with either one.

FatiusJeebs · 05-15-2006, 01:25 PM

Listen....this team still has some areas to cover. Honestly...letting go of Donte' is practically unecessary. He is a deep threat and we don't have too many of those. Letting him go would cause this team more complications than we already have.

gandhi1007 · 05-15-2006, 02:28 PM

I like Stallworth as much as anyone else, but if the right deal comes along we may have to take it. Besides that, the coaching staff has been so overwhelmingly impressed by rookies Mike Haas & Marques Colston that Donte could very well be expendable. Here's what the coaching staff had to say about both rookie receivers...

Mike Haas:

"Through three practices, you're seeing a guy who when you throw to him he catches the football, so you guys are seeing it. Like said yesterday, as a receiver, the one thing you have to be able to do is catch and we expect them to do that. We expect them to block. He's done a good job so far."

Marques Colston:

"He's going to play receiver for us, said Mueller about Colston's potential role. "He's not going to be a tight end and we've got that question a lot. He's 6-4 and a half, the kid can run. He's a dominant player at that level at Hofstra. We like what he brings to the table, but he's got a long ways to go. He's raw. He's going to have to learn different routes. He's going to catch a fade, a slant, a bubble screen, but he's going to have to learn the route tree. He's going to have to learn to play the game at a different level, but this kid's got speed."

You've got one guy who is nearly 6'5"-225 lbs. with good speed & rarely drops a pass (Marques Colston) & one guy that doesn't drop anything (Mike Haas).

saintswhodi · 05-15-2006, 02:38 PM

But Colston is also raw. He will linger on the practice squad for a couple of seasons like Talman Gardner did. If Donte walks for nothing next year or whenever, then maybe he can step in.

but he's got a long ways to go. He's raw. He's going to have to learn different routes. He's going to catch a fade, a slant, a bubble screen, but he's going to have to learn the route tree.

You only highlighted the good parts. Now, like I told Kelley, if we were getting a Sheppard or Brown, I could see parting with Donte. But not just for the sake of getting rid of him, and definitely not cause of some rookies.

05-14-2006, 03:30 PM	#32
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by gandhi1007 In Stallworth's defense, he did have "Fumbles the Clown" throwing him the ball (which was never in stride I might ad). EXACTLY. How hard is that to understand? He had one of the most inconsistent QBs in the league throwing him the ball his whole career. LEt's see, could an inconsistent WR be the product of an inconsistent QB if he is not the prime target 95% of the time? Ding ding ding. JimBone, what about Santana Moss? And David Boston? You seem to wanna explain off any good receiver as having issues. Guess what? Donte had issues, a run in with the law, so they wanna get rid of him. What about Marty Booker? Nate Burleson? Plax Burress? Joey Gallaway when he was with Seattle? Terry Glenn? The league is littered with good receiver who have been traded or allowed to go to other teams. Doesn't mean a player isn't a stud. If we keep Donte, get ready for some crow.

05-15-2006, 02:49 AM	#33
saintsrule 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 657	I hope they keep Donte'.
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05-15-2006, 10:42 AM	#35
Saintsfan66 Registered Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 58	I'll be plan sick, I mean sick, if we trade off stallworth. Stallworth can step up if JoE goes down again and fill in at #1 better then anyone else we have and considering Joe's age, we need a young talented Wideout like him. Please!! Please!! Dont trade off Donte.
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05-15-2006, 01:25 PM	#38
FatiusJeebs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 973	Listen....this team still has some areas to cover. Honestly...letting go of Donte' is practically unecessary. He is a deep threat and we don't have too many of those. Letting him go would cause this team more complications than we already have.
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05-15-2006, 02:28 PM	#39
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	I like Stallworth as much as anyone else, but if the right deal comes along we may have to take it. Besides that, the coaching staff has been so overwhelmingly impressed by rookies Mike Haas & Marques Colston that Donte could very well be expendable. Here's what the coaching staff had to say about both rookie receivers... Mike Haas: "Through three practices, you're seeing a guy who when you throw to him he catches the football, so you guys are seeing it. Like said yesterday, as a receiver, the one thing you have to be able to do is catch and we expect them to do that. We expect them to block. He's done a good job so far." Marques Colston: "He's going to play receiver for us, said Mueller about Colston's potential role. "He's not going to be a tight end and we've got that question a lot. He's 6-4 and a half, the kid can run. He's a dominant player at that level at Hofstra. We like what he brings to the table, but he's got a long ways to go. He's raw. He's going to have to learn different routes. He's going to catch a fade, a slant, a bubble screen, but he's going to have to learn the route tree. He's going to have to learn to play the game at a different level, but this kid's got speed." You've got one guy who is nearly 6'5"-225 lbs. with good speed & rarely drops a pass (Marques Colston) & one guy that doesn't drop anything (Mike Haas).

05-14-2006, 01:33 PM	#31
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	In Stallworth's defense, he did have "Fumbles the Clown" throwing him the ball (which was never in stride I might ad).

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05-15-2006, 06:30 AM	#34
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	With a new coach and Brees in town it would be crazy to get rid of Stallworth now, at least let's see how he does with Drees at the helm.

05-15-2006, 11:52 AM	#36
LKelley67 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: baton rouge Posts: 2,540	whodi, with philly there could be plenty. hard to throw names out if they haven't been rumored as on the block. but how bout these- cb sheldon brown for stallworth and any other cb besides mackenzie they want. wasn't that fred thomas they wanted a coupla yrs back? i'd say winston justice ot but NO could have had him if they wanted him. what about old runyon with a 2007 3rd? i didn't realize tra thomas ot was only a year younger than runyon. they're both pretty good for another year or two. cb lito sheppard is a young all pro stud to me, i would go stall, thomas AND bennett who they could also be interested in to have another corner even better than mackenzie.

05-15-2006, 12:09 PM	#37
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	If Sheldon Brown or Lito Shepperd were included, I couldn't argue with that. But I highly doubt the Eagles would part with either one.

05-15-2006, 02:38 PM	#40
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	But Colston is also raw. He will linger on the practice squad for a couple of seasons like Talman Gardner did. If Donte walks for nothing next year or whenever, then maybe he can step in. but he's got a long ways to go. He's raw. He's going to have to learn different routes. He's going to catch a fade, a slant, a bubble screen, but he's going to have to learn the route tree. You only highlighted the good parts. Now, like I told Kelley, if we were getting a Sheppard or Brown, I could see parting with Donte. But not just for the sake of getting rid of him, and definitely not cause of some rookies.