Is Payton pushing Bush to hard?

LongTimeFan · 10-01-2006, 07:29 PM

I think he is, this is a rookie who is just trying to learn how things are done in the NFL , IMO I give him a little more slack.
Today when we really needed a score I saw Deuce on the sidelines for a few plays while Bush was on the filed, shouldn't it have been the other way around?
Don't get me wrong, I love that we drafted Bush but just feel we're asking a little to much of him this early on..
He will one day though be sick in the NFL, just not right now..

gandhi1007 · 10-01-2006, 07:43 PM

I agree that we should have had Deuce in the game instead of Bush on several key plays. Bush hurt us more than helped today. The fumble in Carolina territory & the -15 yard punt return really took the wind out of our sails. I like the guy, but he looks better as a receiver so far. He's got the speed, but NFL defenses are not going to let him hit the corners......and Deuce is a much better between the tackles runner. By the way..... the NFL's offensive rookie of the year will be a Saint, but it ain't gonna' be Reggie.

Go Colston!!!!!

GoldRush26 · 10-01-2006, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by gandhi1007

I agree that we should have had Deuce in the game instead of Bush on several key plays. Bush hurt us more than helped today. The fumble in Carolina territory & the -15 yard punt return really took the wind out of our sails. I like the guy, but he looks better as a receiver so far. He's got the speed, but NFL defenses are not going to let him hit the corners......and Deuce is a much better between the tackles runner. By the way..... the NFL's offensive rookie of the year will be a Saint, but it ain't gonna' be Reggie. Go Colston!!!!!

Reggie will be a great runner. He just needs to become more disciplined and take what the D gives him. And that will come in time. This is only his 4th game and all 22 eyes on D are on him at all times. It's kind of hard for him to make a huge impact just yet given those factors. Colston on the other hand has flown under the radar even after these 4 games. And then he's pretty talented for an NFL reciever on top of that. Its not fair to compare the two.

gandhi1007 · 10-01-2006, 08:02 PM

Its not fair to compare the two.

Why? They're both rookies aren't they? Do you really think that after the 1st two games, he was still flying under the radar? Is that why Atlanta had their best corner (D. Hall) on him for most of the game? Do you think Carolina wasn't worried about him after all the media hype about him being the best rookie receiver in the league? I'm not dogging Bush.....he's talented. He has yet to show me, though, that he can run between the tackles consistently in the NFL. He's been dropped alot by arm tackles inside. Deuce runs through those.

nola_swammi · 10-01-2006, 08:10 PM

Since Devery was out they should've use Bush to play that position and leave deuce in the Game. Our Defense was out of gas 2nd half cuz they didn't have good rotation since Willie Whitehead was out. They need stick more with Deuce espically to keep Will Smith & Grant fresh to rush the passer.

LongTimeFan · 10-01-2006, 08:12 PM

Colston will be Rookie of the year IMO,
No one knew he'd be this good because he wouldn't have got draft in the 7th, he's playing as though he was a first round pick..

LongTimeFan · 10-01-2006, 08:15 PM

Deuce has got to stop running towards the sidelines, he just will not make the turns in the NFL as he did when he played for USC, not going to happen, put some weight on him and let him run threw the tackles, he'll be fine it will just take time for him, he's a rookie.

gandhi1007 · 10-01-2006, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by LongTimeFan

No one knew he'd be this good because he wouldn't have got draft in the 7th, he's playing as though he was a first round pick..

Oh....someone (hint, hint) knew he'd be that good. :P

LongTimeFan · 10-01-2006, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by gandhi1007

Originally Posted by LongTimeFan

No one knew he'd be this good because he wouldn't have got draft in the 7th, he's playing as though he was a first round pick..

Oh....someone (hint, hint) knew he'd be that good. :P

Let me guess gandhi, you guessed it?

gandhi1007 · 10-01-2006, 09:04 PM

Now if we can just hurry up & extend that little 3 year contract we signed him to.

10-01-2006, 07:29 PM	#1
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	*Is Payton pushing Bush to hard?* I think he is, this is a rookie who is just trying to learn how things are done in the NFL , IMO I give him a little more slack. Today when we really needed a score I saw Deuce on the sidelines for a few plays while Bush was on the filed, shouldn't it have been the other way around? Don't get me wrong, I love that we drafted Bush but just feel we're asking a little to much of him this early on.. He will one day though be sick in the NFL, just not right now..
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10-01-2006, 07:43 PM	#2
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	RE: *Is Payton pushing Bush to hard?* I agree that we should have had Deuce in the game instead of Bush on several key plays. Bush hurt us more than helped today. The fumble in Carolina territory & the -15 yard punt return really took the wind out of our sails. I like the guy, but he looks better as a receiver so far. He's got the speed, but NFL defenses are not going to let him hit the corners......and Deuce is a much better between the tackles runner. By the way..... the NFL's offensive rookie of the year will be a Saint, but it ain't gonna' be Reggie. Go Colston!!!!!
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10-01-2006, 07:52 PM	#3
GoldRush26 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 594	Re: RE: *Is Payton pushing Bush to hard?* Originally Posted by gandhi1007 I agree that we should have had Deuce in the game instead of Bush on several key plays. Bush hurt us more than helped today. The fumble in Carolina territory & the -15 yard punt return really took the wind out of our sails. I like the guy, but he looks better as a receiver so far. He's got the speed, but NFL defenses are not going to let him hit the corners......and Deuce is a much better between the tackles runner. By the way..... the NFL's offensive rookie of the year will be a Saint, but it ain't gonna' be Reggie. Go Colston!!!!! Reggie will be a great runner. He just needs to become more disciplined and take what the D gives him. And that will come in time. This is only his 4th game and all 22 eyes on D are on him at all times. It's kind of hard for him to make a huge impact just yet given those factors. Colston on the other hand has flown under the radar even after these 4 games. And then he's pretty talented for an NFL reciever on top of that. Its not fair to compare the two.
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10-01-2006, 08:02 PM	#4
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	RE: Re: RE: *Is Payton pushing Bush to hard?* Its not fair to compare the two. Why? They're both rookies aren't they? Do you really think that after the 1st two games, he was still flying under the radar? Is that why Atlanta had their best corner (D. Hall) on him for most of the game? Do you think Carolina wasn't worried about him after all the media hype about him being the best rookie receiver in the league? I'm not dogging Bush.....he's talented. He has yet to show me, though, that he can run between the tackles consistently in the NFL. He's been dropped alot by arm tackles inside. Deuce runs through those.
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10-01-2006, 08:10 PM	#5
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	RE: Re: RE: *Is Payton pushing Bush to hard?* Since Devery was out they should've use Bush to play that position and leave deuce in the Game. Our Defense was out of gas 2nd half cuz they didn't have good rotation since Willie Whitehead was out. They need stick more with Deuce espically to keep Will Smith & Grant fresh to rush the passer.

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10-01-2006, 08:12 PM	#6
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	RE: Re: RE: *Is Payton pushing Bush to hard?* Colston will be Rookie of the year IMO, No one knew he'd be this good because he wouldn't have got draft in the 7th, he's playing as though he was a first round pick..

10-01-2006, 08:15 PM	#7
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	RE: Re: RE: *Is Payton pushing Bush to hard?* Deuce has got to stop running towards the sidelines, he just will not make the turns in the NFL as he did when he played for USC, not going to happen, put some weight on him and let him run threw the tackles, he'll be fine it will just take time for him, he's a rookie.

10-01-2006, 08:33 PM	#8
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Re: RE: Re: RE: *Is Payton pushing Bush to hard?* Originally Posted by LongTimeFan No one knew he'd be this good because he wouldn't have got draft in the 7th, he's playing as though he was a first round pick.. Oh....someone (hint, hint) knew he'd be that good. :P

10-01-2006, 08:41 PM	#9
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	Re: RE: Re: RE: *Is Payton pushing Bush to hard?* Originally Posted by gandhi1007 Originally Posted by LongTimeFan No one knew he'd be this good because he wouldn't have got draft in the 7th, he's playing as though he was a first round pick.. Oh....someone (hint, hint) knew he'd be that good. :P Let me guess gandhi, you guessed it?

10-01-2006, 09:04 PM	#10
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: *Is Payton pushing Bush to hard?* Now if we can just hurry up & extend that little 3 year contract we signed him to.

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