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billyh1026 · 06-20-2003, 08:25 PM

You bulid your team around the QB.

Bzzzzzzzzzt...wrong....for instance, the Baltimore - Trent Dilfer lead Super Bowl Champs. There is no way you can succesfully agrue that that team was built around the QB.

And the 1 thing people just don\'t get....leaders either are or they aren\'t. You can\'t MAKE anyone a leader. Ya either got it or ya don\'t.

BillyCarpenter1 · 06-20-2003, 08:48 PM

Bzzzzzzzzzt...wrong....for instance, the Baltimore - Trent Dilfer lead Super Bowl Champs. There is no way you can succesfully agrue that that team was built around the QB.

Sure there are cases where a team won a superbowl that didn\'t build the team around a quarterback but if you think that teams don\'t bulild around a QB, tell that to Dan Marino, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Roger Staubach, John Elway, Johnny Unitas, Bart Starr, Terry Bradshaw, Payton Manning, Fran Tarkenton, Joe Namith.

Should I go on????????

billyh1026 · 06-20-2003, 09:38 PM

Sure there are cases where a team won a superbowl that didn\'t build the team around a quarterback but if you think that teams don\'t bulild around a QB, tell that to Dan Marino, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Roger Staubach, John Elway, Johnny Unitas, Bart Starr, Terry Bradshaw, Payton Manning, Fran Tarkenton, Joe Namith.

Should I go on????????

Championship & Championship caliber teams are built around 4 things. 1 very good QB, 1 very good RB, 1 very good WR, and mainly 1 very very good Defense(the 1 exception that comes to mind is the Rams SB team). Ask any of those guys you\'ve named. I merely pointed out that every team isn\'t built around a QB alone. If a team is put together good enough, you can plug a decently efficient QB in and win.

BillyCarpenter1 · 06-20-2003, 09:49 PM

There have been more qb\'s drafted #1 than any other position......how do u explain that?

pakowitz · 06-20-2003, 10:16 PM

wrong again billy.......when the rams won the super bowl in 1999 they had the top ranked D in the league.. giving up only 15.8 points per game......... theres the link to prove it....

http://www.spreadwinners.com/Defense/defense.asp

BillyCarpenter1 · 06-20-2003, 10:20 PM

pat,

i don\'t think the rams built their team around the defese though.

billyh1026 · 06-20-2003, 10:26 PM

There have been more qb\'s drafted #1 than any other position......how do u explain that?

Actually, it\'s 23 QB\'s & 23 RB\'s drafted #1 (the RB\'s were seperated into HB & FB years ago. Don\'t let that throw you off tho. It equals 23.)

BillyCarpenter1 · 06-20-2003, 10:30 PM

You can put a spin on it anyway you want.......fact is the QB position is the most important position :mad2: :mad2: on any team

[Edited on 21/6/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]

pakowitz · 06-20-2003, 11:04 PM

how many QBs drafted #1 have won the super bowl?

how many QBs were drafted after the 1st round have won the super bowl?

another thing.. im not saying that the qb isnt important, but this is a TEAM GAME..... with out a decent offensive line.. the qb isnt sheeeeeeeeeet... with out descent receiver.. the qb isnt sheeeeeeeeeet... with out a descent running back... the qb isnt sheeeeeeeeet...

BillyCarpenter1 · 06-20-2003, 11:13 PM

You need to type on the left because your not right.

A war is a team game too but I hardly think everyone is equally important in a war.

You need to hurry and edit that post before someone see\'s it.

This discussion was about what position an organization builds a team around, There have been cases where a team bullds around the defensive side of the ball, but history shows that most of the time it\'s a QB.

As far as what poition is the most important on a football team? Ask yourself this question..... If one single player on a team wanted to purposely lose a football game what position would have the most and best opportunities?????

[Edited on 21/6/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]

[Edited on 21/6/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]

06-20-2003, 08:25 PM	#11
billyh1026 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 213	For WhoDat !!! You bulid your team around the QB. Bzzzzzzzzzt...wrong....for instance, the Baltimore - Trent Dilfer lead Super Bowl Champs. There is no way you can succesfully agrue that that team was built around the QB. And the 1 thing people just don\'t get....leaders either are or they aren\'t. You can\'t MAKE anyone a leader. Ya either got it or ya don\'t.
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06-20-2003, 08:48 PM	#12
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	For WhoDat !!! Bzzzzzzzzzt...wrong....for instance, the Baltimore - Trent Dilfer lead Super Bowl Champs. There is no way you can succesfully agrue that that team was built around the QB. Sure there are cases where a team won a superbowl that didn\'t build the team around a quarterback but if you think that teams don\'t bulild around a QB, tell that to Dan Marino, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Roger Staubach, John Elway, Johnny Unitas, Bart Starr, Terry Bradshaw, Payton Manning, Fran Tarkenton, Joe Namith. Should I go on????????
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06-20-2003, 09:38 PM	#13
billyh1026 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 213	For WhoDat !!! Sure there are cases where a team won a superbowl that didn\'t build the team around a quarterback but if you think that teams don\'t bulild around a QB, tell that to Dan Marino, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Roger Staubach, John Elway, Johnny Unitas, Bart Starr, Terry Bradshaw, Payton Manning, Fran Tarkenton, Joe Namith. Should I go on???????? Championship & Championship caliber teams are built around 4 things. 1 very good QB, 1 very good RB, 1 very good WR, and mainly 1 very very good Defense(the 1 exception that comes to mind is the Rams SB team). Ask any of those guys you\'ve named. I merely pointed out that every team isn\'t built around a QB alone. If a team is put together good enough, you can plug a decently efficient QB in and win.
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06-20-2003, 09:49 PM	#14
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	For WhoDat !!! There have been more qb\'s drafted #1 than any other position......how do u explain that?
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06-20-2003, 10:16 PM	#15
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	For WhoDat !!! wrong again billy.......when the rams won the super bowl in 1999 they had the top ranked D in the league.. giving up only 15.8 points per game......... theres the link to prove it.... http://www.spreadwinners.com/Defense/defense.asp

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06-20-2003, 10:20 PM	#16
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06-20-2003, 10:26 PM	#17
billyh1026 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 213	For WhoDat !!! There have been more qb\'s drafted #1 than any other position......how do u explain that? Actually, it\'s 23 QB\'s & 23 RB\'s drafted #1 (the RB\'s were seperated into HB & FB years ago. Don\'t let that throw you off tho. It equals 23.)
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06-20-2003, 10:30 PM	#18
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	For WhoDat !!! You can put a spin on it anyway you want.......fact is the QB position is the most important position :mad2: :mad2: on any team [Edited on 21/6/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]
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06-20-2003, 11:04 PM	#19
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	For WhoDat !!! how many QBs drafted #1 have won the super bowl? how many QBs were drafted after the 1st round have won the super bowl? another thing.. im not saying that the qb isnt important, but this is a TEAM GAME..... with out a decent offensive line.. the qb isnt sheeeeeeeeeet... with out descent receiver.. the qb isnt sheeeeeeeeeet... with out a descent running back... the qb isnt sheeeeeeeeet...

06-20-2003, 11:13 PM	#20
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	For WhoDat !!! You need to type on the left because your not right. A war is a team game too but I hardly think everyone is equally important in a war. You need to hurry and edit that post before someone see\'s it. This discussion was about what position an organization builds a team around, There have been cases where a team bullds around the defensive side of the ball, but history shows that most of the time it\'s a QB. As far as what poition is the most important on a football team? Ask yourself this question..... If one single player on a team wanted to purposely lose a football game what position would have the most and best opportunities????? [Edited on 21/6/2003 by BillyCarpenter1] [Edited on 21/6/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]
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