Update on Stallworth

Bobaganoosh · 02-15-2007, 11:36 PM

Keep in mind guys, once Stallworth hits the open market, the Saints will receive a 4th round pick from the Eagles. The only way the pick becomes a 3rd would be if the Eagles re-sign him before free agency opens. So the Eagles could still re-sign him after March 2nd and the Saints will still only get the 4th round pick.

SaintPauly · 02-16-2007, 05:14 AM

Well that would just SUCK.

mighty12 · 02-16-2007, 08:48 AM

Would be smart for he Eagles to sign him in Free Agencey, but they would then compete with the 9ers cap numbers.

Crusader · 02-19-2007, 04:12 PM

If we were to get a 3rd rounder for Stallworth, would you be happy to spend it on getting Carr as a backup to Brees?

papz · 02-19-2007, 04:16 PM

No because Carr cost around 12 million dollars for the next 2 seasons... that's overboard for a backup quarterback. Invest the pick in a veteran MLB, Edwards, or draft a younger player and develop him.

hagan714 · 02-19-2007, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by Bobaganoosh

Keep in mind guys, once Stallworth hits the open market, the Saints will receive a 4th round pick from the Eagles. The only way the pick becomes a 3rd would be if the Eagles re-sign him before free agency opens. So the Eagles could still re-sign him after March 2nd and the Saints will still only get the 4th round pick.

Is that a clause in the deal. In the past other teams recieved the difference in value of picks. Say he signs after the draft with the eagles we recieved the 4th this but year
4th pick 90 pts.=140
3rd pick 122 pts.=50
Or 90 pts = pick between 102 and 103 in the 4th
that would be an additional 4th next year plus a 5th or 6th rounder also to equal it out.

faldhamen · 02-20-2007, 06:01 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Originally Posted by Bobaganoosh

Keep in mind guys, once Stallworth hits the open market, the Saints will receive a 4th round pick from the Eagles. The only way the pick becomes a 3rd would be if the Eagles re-sign him before free agency opens. So the Eagles could still re-sign him after March 2nd and the Saints will still only get the 4th round pick.

Is that a clause in the deal. In the past other teams recieved the difference in value of picks. Say he signs after the draft with the eagles we recieved the 4th this but year
4th pick 90 pts.=140
3rd pick 122 pts.=50
Or 90 pts = pick between 102 and 103 in the 4th
that would be an additional 4th next year plus a 5th or 6th rounder also to equal it out.

I doubt that is possible. they will give us only 4th round pick and that is it.

hagan714 · 02-20-2007, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by faldhamen

I doubt that is possible. they will give us only 4th round pick and that is it.

Teams in the NFL would be pulling that trick with the conditional pick all the time. If the saints did not cover or included such a loop hole I would be surprised. Maybe that is why Mark was thrown in on the deal. That would be stupid.

saintfan · 02-20-2007, 09:23 AM

I was nearly certain Philly would sign him. I'm still not convinced they won't, but honestly I expected it would have happened by now. Maybe they got a little taste of his injury problem, looked back at his history with us and said, "no thanks".

Bobaganoosh · 02-20-2007, 04:41 PM

Had Stallworth stayed healthy all year, Philly probably would have signed him. And i am sure they have offered him something but he is dying to get out on the open market and cash in...a team like San Fran with all that money and no WR's could throw him some big money...as could Minnesota, and so could New England. It wasnt stupid on the Saints part...i think if he hits the open market, he wont be back in philly...someone else is gonna throw the house at him and he is a me-first kind of guy and he is going to take it.

02-19-2007, 06:40 PM	#16
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Originally Posted by Bobaganoosh Keep in mind guys, once Stallworth hits the open market, the Saints will receive a 4th round pick from the Eagles. The only way the pick becomes a 3rd would be if the Eagles re-sign him before free agency opens. So the Eagles could still re-sign him after March 2nd and the Saints will still only get the 4th round pick. Is that a clause in the deal. In the past other teams recieved the difference in value of picks. Say he signs after the draft with the eagles we recieved the 4th this but year 4th pick 90 pts.=140 3rd pick 122 pts.=50 Or 90 pts = pick between 102 and 103 in the 4th that would be an additional 4th next year plus a 5th or 6th rounder also to equal it out.

02-20-2007, 06:01 AM	#17
faldhamen Registered Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 51	Originally Posted by hagan714 Originally Posted by Bobaganoosh Keep in mind guys, once Stallworth hits the open market, the Saints will receive a 4th round pick from the Eagles. The only way the pick becomes a 3rd would be if the Eagles re-sign him before free agency opens. So the Eagles could still re-sign him after March 2nd and the Saints will still only get the 4th round pick. Is that a clause in the deal. In the past other teams recieved the difference in value of picks. Say he signs after the draft with the eagles we recieved the 4th this but year 4th pick 90 pts.=140 3rd pick 122 pts.=50 Or 90 pts = pick between 102 and 103 in the 4th that would be an additional 4th next year plus a 5th or 6th rounder also to equal it out. I doubt that is possible. they will give us only 4th round pick and that is it.
faldhamen Registered Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 51

02-20-2007, 07:38 AM	#18
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Originally Posted by faldhamen I doubt that is possible. they will give us only 4th round pick and that is it. Teams in the NFL would be pulling that trick with the conditional pick all the time. If the saints did not cover or included such a loop hole I would be surprised. Maybe that is why Mark was thrown in on the deal. That would be stupid.

02-20-2007, 04:41 PM	#20
Bobaganoosh PorkchopExpress Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 608 Blog Entries: 2	Had Stallworth stayed healthy all year, Philly probably would have signed him. And i am sure they have offered him something but he is dying to get out on the open market and cash in...a team like San Fran with all that money and no WR's could throw him some big money...as could Minnesota, and so could New England. It wasnt stupid on the Saints part...i think if he hits the open market, he wont be back in philly...someone else is gonna throw the house at him and he is a me-first kind of guy and he is going to take it.
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02-15-2007, 11:36 PM	#11
Bobaganoosh PorkchopExpress Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 608 Blog Entries: 2	Keep in mind guys, once Stallworth hits the open market, the Saints will receive a 4th round pick from the Eagles. The only way the pick becomes a 3rd would be if the Eagles re-sign him before free agency opens. So the Eagles could still re-sign him after March 2nd and the Saints will still only get the 4th round pick.

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papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,753	No because Carr cost around 12 million dollars for the next 2 seasons... that's overboard for a backup quarterback. Invest the pick in a veteran MLB, Edwards, or draft a younger player and develop him.

02-20-2007, 09:23 AM	#19
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	I was nearly certain Philly would sign him. I'm still not convinced they won't, but honestly I expected it would have happened by now. Maybe they got a little taste of his injury problem, looked back at his history with us and said, "no thanks".