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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by cajun1977 are we all watching the same saints team? cause the one im watching wouldnt benefit even if jerry rice was running the routes for them. theres just to many obstacles, and projects going on with this ...
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09-16-2007, 09:50 PM | #11 |
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Re: Wide Out
Originally Posted by cajun1977
It's called Analysis Vs. We Suck.
I guess you prefer the latter half of the argument. |
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09-16-2007, 10:48 PM | #12 |
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Re: Wide Out
its becoming more and more obvious that Meachum was a HORRIBLE pick. We should have drafted a defensive player. We are decent at wide out...but our Defense SUCKS. 72 points in 2 games.....thats a red flag right there. And Meachum wont contribute any time soon. We needed a corner or MLB that could come right in and do something. Not a project wide out.
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09-16-2007, 10:48 PM | #13 |
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Re: Wide Out
Joe Horn, even though he was hurt last year, was a motivating force on the team.
On the sideline, in the locker room, on the practice field, on the phone...hard to replace that with "just another vet" that didn't get wet. There seems to be no chemistry, nothing that we can build on, no flow, no consistency. I 2nd the Lance Moore motion. The boy has good hands, good speed, knows how to get separation, and knows where he is on the field...and who's around him. You can't teach that. You either have it or you don't - Lance has got it. Give him a chance to make some plays and I think he will. |
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09-16-2007, 11:03 PM | #14 |
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Re: Wide Out
Horn had a knack for first downs. And, I can't really stress that enough.
For what it's worth... the Chargers are my 2nd to favorite team. Yeah, this is going to be a really rough, rough week for me. |
09-16-2007, 11:16 PM | #15 |
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ODJ - Maybe the Saints will do better when they don't travel northward or eastward. That theory can't help SD at all.
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09-16-2007, 11:27 PM | #16 |
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Re: Wide Out
Originally Posted by KingCutta
If you want to chalk up Meachum as a horrible pick, you'll have to throw the Bush one the year before as well. He hasn't really don't crap for being a number 2 overall. Less we forget who when before Reggie and that team is 2-0.
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09-16-2007, 11:45 PM | #17 |
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Re: Wide Out
Originally Posted by Euphoria
Aww, c'mon, man!
What rookie averages 3.6-yards a carry, scores 6-rushing touch downs, 32-first down receptions, 2-receiving touchdowns, and fumbled only twice? (I can't find his special teams stats.) There's first round picks that never had numbers that good throughout their entire career. What more do you want from a backup runningback? |
09-16-2007, 11:47 PM | #18 |
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Re: Wide Out
Look, I'm not trying to sugar coat anything. We look bad, ok? Just... giving up on the whole freakin' season after 2-games just doesn't seem reasonable to me.
That's why they play 16-games. |
09-16-2007, 11:57 PM | #19 |
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You can't pin the blame on any one piece of the team in particular. They all suck equally bad at this point in time.
1. We wanted to run Deuce more? We tried, and he fumbled twice. 2. Give Reggie more touches? We tried that too, he's a featherweight and couldn't get anything done. He too fumbled, and it was luckily recovered by Eric Johnson. 3. Drew Brees turned the ball over as well. How many "good" throws did you see him make? Balls at receiver's feet, balls over their heads, balls batted at the line, and balls thrown behind receivers. 4. Receivers didn't catch the few balls that actually hit their hands (besides Colston, and Moore). 5. The offensive line let too many defenders get to Brees. 6. Special teams...do I even have to go there? 7. Olindo Mare? Some idiot decided to cut John "Money" Carney. 8. Defense. Forced a few 3 and outs, but allowed way too many points. Obviously. I think the offensive impotence leaked into the defense as well. 9. Playcalling. Hey let's pass the ball despite no rhythm whatsoever. (and I'm talking about WAY before we fell behind 200 points). Overall, this team is out of sync, and someone needs to stand up and take responsibility for one another. Take some pride in your job and smack someone in the mouth. Keep chopping. |
09-17-2007, 12:57 AM | #20 |
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Re: Wide Out
It`s hard to say how much impact losing Horn has had on the team, but from a talent standpoint, we were winning last year when he was on the sideline, and today with Atlanta I think he had 1 catch.
I`m not going to make excuses for the defense giving up big plays, but I will cut the defense some slack. When the offense is going 3 and out, turning the ball over, and leaving opponents in great field position, I can`t really hang the L around the neck of the defense. I see 2 problems with the offense; 1) The play calling is vanilla. Where`s those reverse plays we ran with success last year?, that screen to Bush in the flat with blockers? hitting Colston in stride across the middle, .. etc.. etc.. the offensive plays so far this season is not fooling anyone. It appears the offense is not trying to call money-maker plays, but rather it seems the goal is to set up a 3rd and short. 2) OL and the run blocking (except Karney) is HORRIBLE. You can tell Brees is not comfortable in the pocket, he`s being hurried, and passes are being batted down and his passes lack touch. All because of poor blocking. Well, that`s my 2 cents worth. |
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