food for thought...........

ssmitty · 09-27-2007, 08:11 PM

consider this............
we are the best 0-3 team out there.........
for those who think we stink, i have this reply,
we do............
but , if you throw out the bucs, and i really
think you should'nt,
we have been in all 2 out of 3 games heading
into the 2nd half.........
that is where we are not falling apart, but,
not getting it done......
these are the mistakes and miscues we cheered
last yr because the other teams were making them.
we , were getting it done........
we can get it done without horn, and gulp, without duece,
and we can turn this around......
there is no blue print to beat the saints, the saints
are doing that themselves........
we are a good team despite what has happened.....
i actually let my heart dictate the prediction of the
bucs win, but i don't care.....
i did'nt feel they showed anything to merit wins
over the last 3 opponents from watching the pre
season and listening to the hype.....
it did come back to bite em in the azz.......
now, they are in a corner.......
13 to go, but where do you start?
the offense is good enough and the defense
is good enough to get wins, if, they get on
the same page......
they have to play with heart, and they are not.
will carolina be the start?
yes , it will..............
i am boldly predicting an outright win over the panthers...
this will be the first win and a turnaround
that will get the taste of victory
back in their mouths......
someone wanted to bet a paycheck on this game,
now, who was it? and how much is it?
i'm betting gut now........
and this one is on the road...............smitty

mikesaintfan · 09-27-2007, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by ssmitty

consider this............
we are the best 0-3 team out there.........
for those who think we stink, i have this reply,
we do............
but , if you throw out the bucs, and i really
think you should'nt,
we have been in all 2 out of 3 games heading
into the 2nd half.........
that is where we are not falling apart, but,
not getting it done......
these are the mistakes and miscues we cheered
last yr because the other teams were making them.
we , were getting it done........
we can get it done without horn, and gulp, without duece,
and we can turn this around......
there is no blue print to beat the saints, the saints
are doing that themselves........
we are a good team despite what has happened.....
i actually let my heart dictate the prediction of the
bucs win, but i don't care.....
i did'nt feel they showed anything to merit wins
over the last 3 opponents from watching the pre
season and listening to the hype.....
it did come back to bite em in the azz.......
now, they are in a corner.......
13 to go, but where do you start?
the offense is good enough and the defense
is good enough to get wins, if, they get on
the same page......
they have to play with heart, and they are not.
will carolina be the start?
yes , it will..............
i am boldly predicting an outright win over the panthers...
this will be the first win and a turnaround
that will get the taste of victory
back in their mouths......
someone wanted to bet a paycheck on this game,
now, who was it? and how much is it?
i'm betting gut now........
and this one is on the road...............smitty

" on the road??? what do you mean, the game vs carolina is home

lewpac · 09-27-2007, 08:30 PM

EXACTLY!!!

Like I said on another thread, 9-7 could win THAT division. You guys could EASILY go 9-4 the rest of the way. If any team is equipped to do it, it's you guys. It would also continue the "feel good" thing in N.O. that started the day you guys drafted R. Bush and caught fire last year......to be THE team that overcame an 0-3 start to make the playoffs. Remember also that in the NFC, 8-8 could very well be a wild-card team.
At this point, it's "between the ears" in that locker room.
Throw out all the stats about 0-3 teams or numbers three games into a season. Free Agency and Salary cap did away with all those "probabilities" years ago. Most of those stats have been blown out of the water over the last ten years. Anything can happen in this day and age.
You got 45 men who know how to win in that locker room. Along with a coaching staff and front office who know how to win. Where they're at mentally right now is the key. Have they given up already? All those football words like "perseverance, intestinal fortitude, commitment, etc..........one game at a time, momentum, etc.....", all that Lombardi stuff. It's all true. I played the game for 14 years and tried out for a few pro teams (got waxed of course, but at least I won't die wondering!).
So, I'd love to be a fly on the wall in that locker room and have a handle on the mental state of your team..........................

ssmitty · 09-27-2007, 08:30 PM

sorry, misread the schedule.........
at home, big win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Euphoria · 09-28-2007, 12:13 AM

I hate to be the one to rain on your parade but we aren't the best 0-3 team. I'd have to give that to the Dolphins, Rams, Falcons, ok Saints over the Bills at this point.
WE give up way to many points on D by a mile! We haven't performed much better on O either. I mean as far as 0-3 teams we aren't even getting it done in that class of team. The game is about adjustments and reacting. We haven't adjusted nor reacted when teams come out in the second half. I'd say that is a huge flaw as well. You can honestly say we were in the games for the first minute when the score is still 0-0. What really matters as always is the final score which averages to about 12-34 (just in case anyone can't figure out that 12 points for the Saints and 34 against). 12-34 on average... think about that - that is horrible.

lewpac · 09-28-2007, 12:33 AM

Tell you what................

Do a poll (not just around here) and ask people the following:

Of these four teams, the Dolphins, Falcons, Rams and Saints.....if you had to pick one, who would stand the best chance of making the playoffs?

'Nuff said............!!!!

Take Dallas this week. No one, and I mean NO ONE is the least bit concerned about he Rams coming to town. If the Saints we're coming to town, do you think the Cowboy team and faithful would be whistling through the graveyard?
Doubt it. The Saints are dangerous, stats or no stats. If the Falcons, Dolphins (who Dallas already dismantled), or the Bills (in two weeks) were up this week, same thing.
No one is looking past the Saints on their schedule. Not after that display last year, and with basically the same crew. 0-3 not, your mistaken about them being on par with those other teams.

phatoosdey · 09-28-2007, 12:57 AM

thanks lewpac, its nice to see a fan from another team with respect for the saints

Euphoria · 09-28-2007, 01:15 AM

Originally Posted by lewpac

Tell you what................

Do a poll (not just around here) and ask people the following:

Of these four teams, the Dolphins, Falcons, Rams and Saints.....if you had to pick one, who would stand the best chance of making the playoffs?

'Nuff said............!!!!

Take Dallas this week. No one, and I mean NO ONE is the least bit concerned about he Rams coming to town. If the Saints we're coming to town, do you think the Cowboy team and faithful would be whistling through the graveyard?
Doubt it. The Saints are dangerous, stats or no stats. If the Falcons, Dolphins (who Dallas already dismantled), or the Bills (in two weeks) were up this week, same thing.
No one is looking past the Saints on their schedule. Not after that display last year, and with basically the same crew. 0-3 not, your mistaken about them being on par with those other teams.

Sorry I look at the stats and not just the over hyped - over achieveing players and the way the teams are playing. The Saints aren't showing they can live up to there over achieveing year. The other teams were more in the games than the Saints have been.

I mean I want the Saints to win as much as anyone but I choose to live in reality instead of fantasy. Until we get coaches and people finally realize and take the time (2-3 years)to build O line and D line we are going to be a team that gets lucky and have a winning season at best every 6-8 years. 40 seasons and we have had 8 winning season. Reggie isn't the savior a dominating O line and D line you can put anyone in the back field and win.

iceshack149 · 09-28-2007, 01:36 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Sorry I look at the stats and not just the over hyped - over achieveing players and the way the teams are playing. The Saints aren't showing they can live up to there over achieveing year. The other teams were more in the games than the Saints have been.

I mean I want the Saints to win as much as anyone but I choose to live in reality instead of fantasy. Until we get coaches and people finally realize and take the time (2-3 years)to build O line and D line we are going to be a team that gets lucky and have a winning season at best every 6-8 years. 40 seasons and we have had 8 winning season. Reggie isn't the savior a dominating O line and D line you can put anyone in the back field and win.

Euph, I dig you man. You and I have been on this site for awhile and I feel a quasi bond with you.
That said, yes the Saints have been underwhelming but out of the Dolphins, Rams, Chiefs, Falcons, Bills and Saints, I'd much rather be a Saints fan.

Of course I'll always be a Saints fan. This team has more promise than the other teams. We'll still see the playoffs. Just look at the power rankings. The three teams that we lost to are in the top 15

saintsrule · 09-28-2007, 02:38 AM

The team that just beat the Saints, started 0-5 last year and ended 8-8. They almost made the playoffs by 1 or 2 games. The are just 0-5, so they can still make the playoffs.

09-27-2007, 08:11 PM	#1
ssmitty 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,879	food for thought........... consider this............ we are the best 0-3 team out there......... for those who think we stink, i have this reply, we do............ but , if you throw out the bucs, and i really think you should'nt, we have been in all 2 out of 3 games heading into the 2nd half......... that is where we are not falling apart, but, not getting it done...... these are the mistakes and miscues we cheered last yr because the other teams were making them. we , were getting it done........ we can get it done without horn, and gulp, without duece, and we can turn this around...... there is no blue print to beat the saints, the saints are doing that themselves........ we are a good team despite what has happened..... i actually let my heart dictate the prediction of the bucs win, but i don't care..... i did'nt feel they showed anything to merit wins over the last 3 opponents from watching the pre season and listening to the hype..... it did come back to bite em in the azz....... now, they are in a corner....... 13 to go, but where do you start? the offense is good enough and the defense is good enough to get wins, if, they get on the same page...... they have to play with heart, and they are not. will carolina be the start? yes , it will.............. i am boldly predicting an outright win over the panthers... this will be the first win and a turnaround that will get the taste of victory back in their mouths...... someone wanted to bet a paycheck on this game, now, who was it? and how much is it? i'm betting gut now........ and this one is on the road...............smitty
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09-27-2007, 08:22 PM	#2
mikesaintfan 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2006 Location: new jersey Posts: 1,070	Re: food for thought........... Originally Posted by ssmitty consider this............ we are the best 0-3 team out there......... for those who think we stink, i have this reply, we do............ but , if you throw out the bucs, and i really think you should'nt, we have been in all 2 out of 3 games heading into the 2nd half......... that is where we are not falling apart, but, not getting it done...... these are the mistakes and miscues we cheered last yr because the other teams were making them. we , were getting it done........ we can get it done without horn, and gulp, without duece, and we can turn this around...... there is no blue print to beat the saints, the saints are doing that themselves........ we are a good team despite what has happened..... i actually let my heart dictate the prediction of the bucs win, but i don't care..... i did'nt feel they showed anything to merit wins over the last 3 opponents from watching the pre season and listening to the hype..... it did come back to bite em in the azz....... now, they are in a corner....... 13 to go, but where do you start? the offense is good enough and the defense is good enough to get wins, if, they get on the same page...... they have to play with heart, and they are not. will carolina be the start? yes , it will.............. i am boldly predicting an outright win over the panthers... this will be the first win and a turnaround that will get the taste of victory back in their mouths...... someone wanted to bet a paycheck on this game, now, who was it? and how much is it? i'm betting gut now........ and this one is on the road...............smitty " on the road??? what do you mean, the game vs carolina is home

09-27-2007, 08:30 PM	#3
lewpac Rookie Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 27	Re: food for thought........... EXACTLY!!! Like I said on another thread, 9-7 could win THAT division. You guys could EASILY go 9-4 the rest of the way. If any team is equipped to do it, it's you guys. It would also continue the "feel good" thing in N.O. that started the day you guys drafted R. Bush and caught fire last year......to be THE team that overcame an 0-3 start to make the playoffs. Remember also that in the NFC, 8-8 could very well be a wild-card team. At this point, it's "between the ears" in that locker room. Throw out all the stats about 0-3 teams or numbers three games into a season. Free Agency and Salary cap did away with all those "probabilities" years ago. Most of those stats have been blown out of the water over the last ten years. Anything can happen in this day and age. You got 45 men who know how to win in that locker room. Along with a coaching staff and front office who know how to win. Where they're at mentally right now is the key. Have they given up already? All those football words like "perseverance, intestinal fortitude, commitment, etc..........one game at a time, momentum, etc.....", all that Lombardi stuff. It's all true. I played the game for 14 years and tried out for a few pro teams (got waxed of course, but at least I won't die wondering!). So, I'd love to be a fly on the wall in that locker room and have a handle on the mental state of your team..........................
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09-27-2007, 08:30 PM	#4
ssmitty 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,879	Re: food for thought........... sorry, misread the schedule......... at home, big win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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09-28-2007, 12:13 AM	#5
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: food for thought........... I hate to be the one to rain on your parade but we aren't the best 0-3 team. I'd have to give that to the Dolphins, Rams, Falcons, ok Saints over the Bills at this point. WE give up way to many points on D by a mile! We haven't performed much better on O either. I mean as far as 0-3 teams we aren't even getting it done in that class of team. The game is about adjustments and reacting. We haven't adjusted nor reacted when teams come out in the second half. I'd say that is a huge flaw as well. You can honestly say we were in the games for the first minute when the score is still 0-0. What really matters as always is the final score which averages to about 12-34 (just in case anyone can't figure out that 12 points for the Saints and 34 against). 12-34 on average... think about that - that is horrible.

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09-28-2007, 12:33 AM	#6
lewpac Rookie Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 27	Re: food for thought........... Tell you what................ Do a poll (not just around here) and ask people the following: Of these four teams, the Dolphins, Falcons, Rams and Saints.....if you had to pick one, who would stand the best chance of making the playoffs? 'Nuff said............!!!! Take Dallas this week. No one, and I mean NO ONE is the least bit concerned about he Rams coming to town. If the Saints we're coming to town, do you think the Cowboy team and faithful would be whistling through the graveyard? Doubt it. The Saints are dangerous, stats or no stats. If the Falcons, Dolphins (who Dallas already dismantled), or the Bills (in two weeks) were up this week, same thing. No one is looking past the Saints on their schedule. Not after that display last year, and with basically the same crew. 0-3 not, your mistaken about them being on par with those other teams.
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09-28-2007, 12:57 AM	#7
phatoosdey Drunkagen Join Date: May 2007 Location: kenner Posts: 356	Re: food for thought........... thanks lewpac, its nice to see a fan from another team with respect for the saints

09-28-2007, 01:15 AM	#8
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: food for thought........... Originally Posted by lewpac Tell you what................ Do a poll (not just around here) and ask people the following: Of these four teams, the Dolphins, Falcons, Rams and Saints.....if you had to pick one, who would stand the best chance of making the playoffs? 'Nuff said............!!!! Take Dallas this week. No one, and I mean NO ONE is the least bit concerned about he Rams coming to town. If the Saints we're coming to town, do you think the Cowboy team and faithful would be whistling through the graveyard? Doubt it. The Saints are dangerous, stats or no stats. If the Falcons, Dolphins (who Dallas already dismantled), or the Bills (in two weeks) were up this week, same thing. No one is looking past the Saints on their schedule. Not after that display last year, and with basically the same crew. 0-3 not, your mistaken about them being on par with those other teams. Sorry I look at the stats and not just the over hyped - over achieveing players and the way the teams are playing. The Saints aren't showing they can live up to there over achieveing year. The other teams were more in the games than the Saints have been. I mean I want the Saints to win as much as anyone but I choose to live in reality instead of fantasy. Until we get coaches and people finally realize and take the time (2-3 years)to build O line and D line we are going to be a team that gets lucky and have a winning season at best every 6-8 years. 40 seasons and we have had 8 winning season. Reggie isn't the savior a dominating O line and D line you can put anyone in the back field and win.

09-28-2007, 01:36 AM	#9
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,238 Blog Entries: 1	Re: food for thought........... Originally Posted by Euphoria Sorry I look at the stats and not just the over hyped - over achieveing players and the way the teams are playing. The Saints aren't showing they can live up to there over achieveing year. The other teams were more in the games than the Saints have been. I mean I want the Saints to win as much as anyone but I choose to live in reality instead of fantasy. Until we get coaches and people finally realize and take the time (2-3 years)to build O line and D line we are going to be a team that gets lucky and have a winning season at best every 6-8 years. 40 seasons and we have had 8 winning season. Reggie isn't the savior a dominating O line and D line you can put anyone in the back field and win. Euph, I dig you man. You and I have been on this site for awhile and I feel a quasi bond with you. That said, yes the Saints have been underwhelming but out of the Dolphins, Rams, Chiefs, Falcons, Bills and Saints, I'd much rather be a Saints fan. Of course I'll always be a Saints fan. This team has more promise than the other teams. We'll still see the playoffs. Just look at the power rankings. The three teams that we lost to are in the top 15

09-28-2007, 02:38 AM	#10
saintsrule 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 657	Re: food for thought........... The team that just beat the Saints, started 0-5 last year and ended 8-8. They almost made the playoffs by 1 or 2 games. The are just 0-5, so they can still make the playoffs.
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