Wow!!!

QBREES9 · 10-24-2007, 05:13 PM

i like that idea. Hall as a Saint

FatiusJeebs · 10-24-2007, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

i like that idea. Hall as a Saint

I beg to differ. I understand he is talented but he has evolved into a total punk. All he does now a days is get in recievers faces and try to instigate. Then when he gets his a** burned he turns into a 5-year old and gets you like 60 yards in penalties. Sunday against us he must have gotten into our reciever's faces like 3 or 4 times. That guy is nothing but a headache. Don't want him in black and gold.

JOESAM2002 · 10-25-2007, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

i like that idea. Hall as a Saint

I hate to say it but...........it'll never happen! He's not a Payton kind of player. Payton would look at him as to much trouble even as good as he may be. Yes, we sure could use a player of his caliber on the corner but it won't be him.

cadilacin · 10-25-2007, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by JOESAM2002

I hate to say it but...........it'll never happen! He's not a Payton kind of player. Payton would look at him as to much trouble even as good as he may be. Yes, we sure could use a player of his caliber on the corner but it won't be him.

Well..."Payton Kind of players" Cant Cover.

I'm wouldn't mind hall at all. Moss was said not to be a good fit for the Pats...and we see how thats going. Being a kind of coach guy is so much of an overly used non factor.

But I do see your point.

Euphoria · 10-25-2007, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by cadilacin

Well..."Payton Kind of players" Cant Cover.

I'm wouldn't mind hall at all. Moss was said not to be a good fit for the Pats...and we see how thats going. Being a kind of coach guy is so much of an overly used non factor.

But I do see your point.

...are they really Payton's kind of players?

They were here before him and I don't think he's been able to find better. I seriously don't think its the players (DB) SO MUCH as it is the style and defensive playbook. Its the man to man that kills us with no serious day in day out pressure. You can't give any QB/WR combo enough time and man to man coverage at that... thats suicide!

"Hell I can cover Randy Moss for 1 maybe 2 yards but after that I am lost by a mile." (you can quote me on this one, lol).

JOESAM2002 · 10-25-2007, 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

...are they really Payton's kind of players?

They were here before him and I don't think he's been able to find better. I seriously don't think its the players (DB) SO MUCH as it is the style and defensive playbook. Its the man to man that kills us with no serious day in day out pressure. You can't give any QB/WR combo enough time and man to man coverage at that... thats suicide!

"Hell I can cover Randy Moss for 1 maybe 2 yards but after that I am lost by a mile." (you can quote me on this one, lol).

OK, now this is gonna hurt. Damn, I have to agree with you Euph, I think it's the style of defense too. Why they don't go to more of a zone befuddles me.

cadilacin,

Man, you got me there, but I really think (as stupid as this is going to sound) that Randy has changed. Maybe he finally has a coach and QB he likes. He sure has toned his mouth down. Him and T.O. both. There is hope for the world!

WhoDat205 · 10-26-2007, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by JOESAM2002

Man, you got me there, but I really think (as stupid as this is going to sound) that Randy has changed. Maybe he finally has a coach and QB he likes. He sure has toned his mouth down. Him and T.O. both. There is hope for the world!

Randy didn't change. Remember when the Viks went 15-1? Did you ever hear anything out of Randy? Randy was playing for Art Shell in Oakland. That team had no hope of going anywhere that season. Al Davis knew it that's why he hire Art - as a bandaid. Randy wants to win.

Same goes for this ATL situation. After cutting Grady (7th on the team in tackles, first in tackles for loss), the Falcons have 3 reserve linemen. He kept Montavious Stanley - a Louisville boy - over his most productive DT. How does that make sense? The only explanation is that he's trying to tank the season. We should be crying foul on Petrino for intentionally losing, not Hall for calling him out on it.

Boogro · 10-25-2007, 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by cadilacin

Well..."Payton Kind of players" Cant Cover.

I'm wouldn't mind hall at all. Moss was said not to be a good fit for the Pats...and we see how thats going. Being a kind of coach guy is so much of an overly used non factor.

But I do see your point.

The Pats took a gamble on Moss. They are winning and he's getting the ball. Really, the jury is still out. Moss didn't work for the Vikings or the Raiders. Maybe the third time is a charm. He is older compared to Hall and he's out to win a championship now. Maybe he's done playing for himself. T.O. didn't work out for the 49ers or the Eagles which he was also younger at the time. Cowboys and the Pats seem like the only teams that can handle hot-headed trouble makers such as T.O. Moss, Dillon, Sanders, and now Tank Johnson gets a shot.

I love Hall's play as a player, but hate him as a person...he's a personal foul and a fine waiting to happen. Besides, he taller than 5'8 and expensive....not exactly our player in that regard either

10-24-2007, 05:13 PM	#1
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10-25-2007, 11:16 AM	#3
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Re: Wow!!! Originally Posted by QBREES9 i like that idea. Hall as a Saint I hate to say it but...........it'll never happen! He's not a Payton kind of player. Payton would look at him as to much trouble even as good as he may be. Yes, we sure could use a player of his caliber on the corner but it won't be him.

10-25-2007, 10:15 PM	#4
cadilacin "Real Talk" Join Date: May 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 148	Re: Wow!!! Originally Posted by JOESAM2002 I hate to say it but...........it'll never happen! He's not a Payton kind of player. Payton would look at him as to much trouble even as good as he may be. Yes, we sure could use a player of his caliber on the corner but it won't be him. Well..."Payton Kind of players" Cant Cover. I'm wouldn't mind hall at all. Moss was said not to be a good fit for the Pats...and we see how thats going. Being a kind of coach guy is so much of an overly used non factor. But I do see your point.

10-25-2007, 10:48 PM	#5
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Wow!!! Originally Posted by cadilacin Well..."Payton Kind of players" Cant Cover. I'm wouldn't mind hall at all. Moss was said not to be a good fit for the Pats...and we see how thats going. Being a kind of coach guy is so much of an overly used non factor. But I do see your point. ...are they really Payton's kind of players? They were here before him and I don't think he's been able to find better. I seriously don't think its the players (DB) SO MUCH as it is the style and defensive playbook. Its the man to man that kills us with no serious day in day out pressure. You can't give any QB/WR combo enough time and man to man coverage at that... thats suicide! "Hell I can cover Randy Moss for 1 maybe 2 yards but after that I am lost by a mile." (you can quote me on this one, lol).

10-25-2007, 11:58 PM	#6
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Re: Wow!!! Originally Posted by Euphoria ...are they really Payton's kind of players? They were here before him and I don't think he's been able to find better. I seriously don't think its the players (DB) SO MUCH as it is the style and defensive playbook. Its the man to man that kills us with no serious day in day out pressure. You can't give any QB/WR combo enough time and man to man coverage at that... thats suicide! "Hell I can cover Randy Moss for 1 maybe 2 yards but after that I am lost by a mile." (you can quote me on this one, lol). OK, now this is gonna hurt. Damn, I have to agree with you Euph, I think it's the style of defense too. Why they don't go to more of a zone befuddles me. cadilacin, Man, you got me there, but I really think (as stupid as this is going to sound) that Randy has changed. Maybe he finally has a coach and QB he likes. He sure has toned his mouth down. Him and T.O. both. There is hope for the world!

10-26-2007, 08:32 AM	#7
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Wow!!! Originally Posted by JOESAM2002 Man, you got me there, but I really think (as stupid as this is going to sound) that Randy has changed. Maybe he finally has a coach and QB he likes. He sure has toned his mouth down. Him and T.O. both. There is hope for the world! Randy didn't change. Remember when the Viks went 15-1? Did you ever hear anything out of Randy? Randy was playing for Art Shell in Oakland. That team had no hope of going anywhere that season. Al Davis knew it that's why he hire Art - as a bandaid. Randy wants to win. Same goes for this ATL situation. After cutting Grady (7th on the team in tackles, first in tackles for loss), the Falcons have 3 reserve linemen. He kept Montavious Stanley - a Louisville boy - over his most productive DT. How does that make sense? The only explanation is that he's trying to tank the season. We should be crying foul on Petrino for intentionally losing, not Hall for calling him out on it.
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10-25-2007, 11:20 PM	#8
Boogro Nose Digger Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 341	Re: Wow!!! Originally Posted by cadilacin Well..."Payton Kind of players" Cant Cover. I'm wouldn't mind hall at all. Moss was said not to be a good fit for the Pats...and we see how thats going. Being a kind of coach guy is so much of an overly used non factor. But I do see your point. The Pats took a gamble on Moss. They are winning and he's getting the ball. Really, the jury is still out. Moss didn't work for the Vikings or the Raiders. Maybe the third time is a charm. He is older compared to Hall and he's out to win a championship now. Maybe he's done playing for himself. T.O. didn't work out for the 49ers or the Eagles which he was also younger at the time. Cowboys and the Pats seem like the only teams that can handle hot-headed trouble makers such as T.O. Moss, Dillon, Sanders, and now Tank Johnson gets a shot. I love Hall's play as a player, but hate him as a person...he's a personal foul and a fine waiting to happen. Besides, he taller than 5'8 and expensive....not exactly our player in that regard either