Saints maybe interested in Big Daddy.

BillyCarpenter1 · 07-30-2003, 05:24 PM

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Wilkinson drawing considerable interest

Cut by the Redskins after the two sides couldnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢t agree on a pay reduction for 2003, former No. 1 overall pick Dan Wilkinson doesnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢t figure to be without multiple options. The Redskins did not want to pay Wilkinson the $3.5 million salary he was owed for this season, and attempts to structure a deal that would equal his original contract in worth fell short. Wilkinson, who club officials said is not in game shape, has been an underachiever throughout his career but still has the size and ability to help a team.

PFW: Which teams are interested, and is Wilkinson worth the investment?

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW...pins073003.htm

[Edited on 30/7/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]

LordOfEntropy · 07-30-2003, 05:28 PM

I hope not. It doesn\'t sound like he\'s worth it to me.

BillyCarpenter1 · 07-30-2003, 05:42 PM

I feel good about the defensive tackle situation with the Saints, but if we could sign Wilkinson at the right price, I think this would be a good move. The worst thing that could happen is that he becomes a back-up, and probably better than any back-up we have.

Rumor is he\'s in great shape. This could be a wake-up call for him and he could come through big time. Stranger things have happened.

LordOfEntropy · 07-30-2003, 05:54 PM

I read somewhere that he is -not- in great shape, rather that he\'s -way- out of shape.

But... the backups we\'ve got, I think they can do as well as this chronic underachiever - that is, if they get a chance to play, get a chance to learn.

This guy\'s had his chance. And attitude counts for so much, especially with so many young players on the team.

[Edited on 30/7/2003 by LordOfEntropy]

BillyCarpenter1 · 07-30-2003, 06:40 PM

I\'ve never heard where Wilinkinson has had attitude problems. The only thing I\'ve heard is that his play has been disappointing.

The Saints still have question marks at the tackle position and although he might be another question mark, if you bring in enough question marks sooner or later you will find your anwser.

[Edited on 30/7/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]

coastalkid · 07-30-2003, 07:03 PM

I agree with BC on this one. For the right price this may be a worthwhile investment. Not a long term solution to anything but could possibly provide some depth and motivation at the DT position. If nothing else he would be a decent back up most likely better than what we already have?? Price means everything here!

LordOfEntropy · 07-30-2003, 07:58 PM

I respectfully disagree.

This guy\'s been in the league a decade. He\'s not bad, but he\'s not good. He\'ll cost a few mill on the cap to sign him. I\'ve read that he takes a lot of plays off, entire drives off, actually. I\'ve read that he doesn\'t bother with offseason conditioning programs. But we do know that he\'s let down the teams with regards to his potential year after year, never lived up what people thought he would be. Now, does that sound like a hungry player to you? It doesn\'t to me.

I\'d rather see Ford pull it off, or see one of the youngsters get a shot at it. They\'re hungry, young. But I don\'t want them learning from a guy that could\'ve done it all, but didn\'t seem to have the drive necessary to get it done.

That\'s the way I see it, unless of course Big Daddy can just blow away the competition, give the team the best chance, dance circles around everyone else. But from what I\'ve been reading about him, I don\'t think that\'s the case.

ScottyRo · 07-30-2003, 10:28 PM

Wilkerson just doesn\'t seem to me to be the type of guy that Haslet will go for, i.e., he\'s a big name, looking for a fat paycheck, and he has a bad reputation for not having any heart for the game. With the problems they already have with Gravy, I wouldn\'t even think they\'d consider it for anything other than a minimum salary and there are too many teams just desperate enough for good DT \'s to pay him the big bucks.

I can\'t see it working out, but I\'ve been surprised before.

BillyCarpenter1 · 07-30-2003, 10:49 PM

Big Daddy has played for some awful teams with the Begals and the Redskins. Maybe a change of scenery might help the guy out. The thing about it is, if he does go to a team and has 10 or more sacks, I want it to be with the Saints. We can always cut him.

If he wants big money, that\'s fine. Just make him earn it with incentives. I don\'t think at this point in the season we will find anyone any better. And besides I like the name \"Big Daddy.\"

roughneck · 07-30-2003, 11:28 PM

He was rumored to have attitude problems with the Bengals. They have made that accusation about many players in the past (sound like a CANCER to anyone else?). Some think it was to cover up their coaching and GM problems. I don\'t know. I can\'t think of another player let go by the Bengals that really caught on with anyone else. Can you?

07-30-2003, 05:24 PM	#1
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Saints maybe interested in Big Daddy. Spins July 30, 2003 Raising Big Daddy; is Steelers' window closing? ProFootballWeekly.com asks associate editor Jeff Reynolds for his thoughts on the hottest topics in the NFL. Wilkinson drawing considerable interest Cut by the Redskins after the two sides couldnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢t agree on a pay reduction for 2003, former No. 1 overall pick Dan Wilkinson doesnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢t figure to be without multiple options. The Redskins did not want to pay Wilkinson the $3.5 million salary he was owed for this season, and attempts to structure a deal that would equal his original contract in worth fell short. Wilkinson, who club officials said is not in game shape, has been an underachiever throughout his career but still has the size and ability to help a team. PFW: Which teams are interested, and is Wilkinson worth the investment? http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW...pins073003.htm [Edited on 30/7/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]
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07-30-2003, 05:28 PM	#2
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	Saints maybe interested in Big Daddy. I hope not. It doesn\'t sound like he\'s worth it to me.

07-30-2003, 05:42 PM	#3
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Saints maybe interested in Big Daddy. I feel good about the defensive tackle situation with the Saints, but if we could sign Wilkinson at the right price, I think this would be a good move. The worst thing that could happen is that he becomes a back-up, and probably better than any back-up we have. Rumor is he\'s in great shape. This could be a wake-up call for him and he could come through big time. Stranger things have happened.
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07-30-2003, 05:54 PM	#4
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	Saints maybe interested in Big Daddy. I read somewhere that he is -not- in great shape, rather that he\'s -way- out of shape. But... the backups we\'ve got, I think they can do as well as this chronic underachiever - that is, if they get a chance to play, get a chance to learn. This guy\'s had his chance. And attitude counts for so much, especially with so many young players on the team. [Edited on 30/7/2003 by LordOfEntropy]

07-30-2003, 06:40 PM	#5
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Saints maybe interested in Big Daddy. I\'ve never heard where Wilinkinson has had attitude problems. The only thing I\'ve heard is that his play has been disappointing. The Saints still have question marks at the tackle position and although he might be another question mark, if you bring in enough question marks sooner or later you will find your anwser. [Edited on 30/7/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]
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coastalkid 100th Post Join Date: May 2003 Location: Spain Posts: 287	Saints maybe interested in Big Daddy. I agree with BC on this one. For the right price this may be a worthwhile investment. Not a long term solution to anything but could possibly provide some depth and motivation at the DT position. If nothing else he would be a decent back up most likely better than what we already have?? Price means everything here!

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LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	Saints maybe interested in Big Daddy. I respectfully disagree. This guy\'s been in the league a decade. He\'s not bad, but he\'s not good. He\'ll cost a few mill on the cap to sign him. I\'ve read that he takes a lot of plays off, entire drives off, actually. I\'ve read that he doesn\'t bother with offseason conditioning programs. But we do know that he\'s let down the teams with regards to his potential year after year, never lived up what people thought he would be. Now, does that sound like a hungry player to you? It doesn\'t to me. I\'d rather see Ford pull it off, or see one of the youngsters get a shot at it. They\'re hungry, young. But I don\'t want them learning from a guy that could\'ve done it all, but didn\'t seem to have the drive necessary to get it done. That\'s the way I see it, unless of course Big Daddy can just blow away the competition, give the team the best chance, dance circles around everyone else. But from what I\'ve been reading about him, I don\'t think that\'s the case.
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ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	Saints maybe interested in Big Daddy. Wilkerson just doesn\'t seem to me to be the type of guy that Haslet will go for, i.e., he\'s a big name, looking for a fat paycheck, and he has a bad reputation for not having any heart for the game. With the problems they already have with Gravy, I wouldn\'t even think they\'d consider it for anything other than a minimum salary and there are too many teams just desperate enough for good DT \'s to pay him the big bucks. I can\'t see it working out, but I\'ve been surprised before.

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BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Saints maybe interested in Big Daddy. Big Daddy has played for some awful teams with the Begals and the Redskins. Maybe a change of scenery might help the guy out. The thing about it is, if he does go to a team and has 10 or more sacks, I want it to be with the Saints. We can always cut him. If he wants big money, that\'s fine. Just make him earn it with incentives. I don\'t think at this point in the season we will find anyone any better. And besides I like the name \"Big Daddy.\"
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roughneck Registered Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 41	Saints maybe interested in Big Daddy. He was rumored to have attitude problems with the Bengals. They have made that accusation about many players in the past (sound like a CANCER to anyone else?). Some think it was to cover up their coaching and GM problems. I don\'t know. I can\'t think of another player let go by the Bengals that really caught on with anyone else. Can you?
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