The Elephant in the Living Room?

EJAMM · 11-22-2007, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Ok....I don't post many comments, however, I read a great many. This post is irritating.

First of all, Brees is the one of the best FA pick ups we have ever had, as previously mentioned. Next, Brees is a fantastic QB and probably one of the best we have ever had. There is no comparison to AB.

Look, Brees has had some bad games this year...that happens to every QB in the game. The offense is plagued by inconsistency (from all players), poor offensive line play, dropped passes, fumbles and a very lack luster or even non-existant rushing game. The play calling has been one demensional.

The bottom line is Brees is a great quarterback. He has been the one of the lone bright spots for the Saints all year long. He is an accurate, dependable and responsible leader that the team has needed for years. He is poised, respectable and accountable. Why anyone would want to look in another direction is rediculous.

I cannot even begin to understand why anyone on this forum thinks that this guy is not the future of this team. He is the leader. Generals can only be as good as the men they have at their side.

Nice post. I agree that the problem is not Drew Brees. Brees is a great QB and fits extremely well into the Saints gameplan, unfortunately there are other players that are letting the team down thereby creating the one-dimensional play calling. What makes Brees great is the fact he gives 100% to the gameplan he is given from Coach Payton. He doesn't argue or question but rather just goes out and tries his level best to execute. That comment cannot be applied to other players who cannot seem to grasp the gameplan...namely Jason David. Jason David singlehandedly buries the Saints into a position of a one-dimensional offense. Any team in the NFL can compete on a professional level when they know the opponent is one-dimensional. If only Jason David could fake an injury to be pulled from the game so the Saints could put some points on the board.

My thoughts

andersen · 11-22-2007, 08:47 AM

The elephant in the room? You guys are beating him up, when the real problem is (and has been since last year), the pathetic performance of the defense. They couldn't stop the run last year and we took it. This year, they make 3rd string QB's look like all-pros. The front four cannot pressure without a blitz package on. The DB's can't cover with a blitz package on. The LB's can't get out of their own way.
Granted Drew needs to protect the ball more and stop pressing the situations. But, I'm sure he (and Coach, too) feel they have to press to score enough points to win with this crappy defense.

LordOfEntropy · 11-24-2007, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by leilung

So now we're faced with finishing out a horrendous season, in what should have been a possible first ever run to the Super Bowl.

Why?

Well, maybe it's just not our year - 2007. We haven't had a winning season in an odd year since 1991.

67 3-11
68 4-9-1
69 5-9
70 2-11-1
71 4-8-2
72 2-11-1
73 5-9
74 5-9
75 2-12
76 4-10
77 3-11
78 7-9
79 8-8
80 1-15
81 4-12
82 4-5
83 8-8
84 7-9
85 5-11
86 7-8-1
87 12-4
88 10-6
89 9-7
90 8-8
91 11-5
92 12-4
93 8-8
94 7-9
95 7-9
96 3-13
97 6-10
98 6-10
99 3-13
0 10-6
1 7-9
2 9-7
3 8-8
4 8-8
5 3-13
6 10-6

NEXTPROBOWLER · 11-24-2007, 04:24 PM

I.S. your sooooooo right. doesnt patter if u have peyton manning, no running game means them ends are comin flyin off the edge..............ya dig yea

UK_WhoDat · 11-24-2007, 06:10 PM

Tusk, tusk, tusk. Brees = Elephant on the living room. I think not.

OK, he has not always been top form. OK, he has made mistakes.

But IMHO he has been off “rhythm” for 3 games, a bit “ho-hum” for 1 game, and close to the “rhythm” we expect for a top QB for the rest.

At the end of the day, there is no elephant in the living room.

We have a herd of elephants in the organization. I am sure you guys “know” what we could have done better:
Draft
Free Agency
Replacement of Deuce as soon as he went down
Choice of Bush as the RB. Bush is a HB (and a bloody good one too)
Experienced back-up for Colston
Play selection
Defensive schemes
Strength of the lines and secondary
……………

JOESAM2002 · 11-24-2007, 07:48 PM

"Replacement of Deuce as soon as he went down"

Amen!!!!!!! Why didn't we bring up Branch right then and let him get some playing time?He's the biggest back we have on the roster and he's still on the practice squad? I really do wonder if we don't have the cart before the horse here.

QBREES9 · 11-24-2007, 09:31 PM

I think its very simple you protect, Brees and The Saints win just like they in 2006.

From the Brees groupie, and dam proud to be a member. The QB the Saints ever had. LOL

11-22-2007, 08:43 AM	#1
EJAMM Rookie Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 13	Re: The Elephant in the Living Room? Originally Posted by jnormand Ok....I don't post many comments, however, I read a great many. This post is irritating. First of all, Brees is the one of the best FA pick ups we have ever had, as previously mentioned. Next, Brees is a fantastic QB and probably one of the best we have ever had. There is no comparison to AB. Look, Brees has had some bad games this year...that happens to every QB in the game. The offense is plagued by inconsistency (from all players), poor offensive line play, dropped passes, fumbles and a very lack luster or even non-existant rushing game. The play calling has been one demensional. The bottom line is Brees is a great quarterback. He has been the one of the lone bright spots for the Saints all year long. He is an accurate, dependable and responsible leader that the team has needed for years. He is poised, respectable and accountable. Why anyone would want to look in another direction is rediculous. I cannot even begin to understand why anyone on this forum thinks that this guy is not the future of this team. He is the leader. Generals can only be as good as the men they have at their side. Nice post. I agree that the problem is not Drew Brees. Brees is a great QB and fits extremely well into the Saints gameplan, unfortunately there are other players that are letting the team down thereby creating the one-dimensional play calling. What makes Brees great is the fact he gives 100% to the gameplan he is given from Coach Payton. He doesn't argue or question but rather just goes out and tries his level best to execute. That comment cannot be applied to other players who cannot seem to grasp the gameplan...namely Jason David. Jason David singlehandedly buries the Saints into a position of a one-dimensional offense. Any team in the NFL can compete on a professional level when they know the opponent is one-dimensional. If only Jason David could fake an injury to be pulled from the game so the Saints could put some points on the board. My thoughts
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11-22-2007, 08:47 AM	#2
andersen With an "E" Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Madisonville, LA Posts: 429	Re: The Elephant in the Living Room? The elephant in the room? You guys are beating him up, when the real problem is (and has been since last year), the pathetic performance of the defense. They couldn't stop the run last year and we took it. This year, they make 3rd string QB's look like all-pros. The front four cannot pressure without a blitz package on. The DB's can't cover with a blitz package on. The LB's can't get out of their own way. Granted Drew needs to protect the ball more and stop pressing the situations. But, I'm sure he (and Coach, too) feel they have to press to score enough points to win with this crappy defense.
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11-24-2007, 02:44 PM	#3
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	Re: The Elephant in the Living Room? Originally Posted by leilung So now we're faced with finishing out a horrendous season, in what should have been a possible first ever run to the Super Bowl. Why? Well, maybe it's just not our year - 2007. We haven't had a winning season in an odd year since 1991. 67 3-11 68 4-9-1 69 5-9 70 2-11-1 71 4-8-2 72 2-11-1 73 5-9 74 5-9 75 2-12 76 4-10 77 3-11 78 7-9 79 8-8 80 1-15 81 4-12 82 4-5 83 8-8 84 7-9 85 5-11 86 7-8-1 87 12-4 88 10-6 89 9-7 90 8-8 91 11-5 92 12-4 93 8-8 94 7-9 95 7-9 96 3-13 97 6-10 98 6-10 99 3-13 0 10-6 1 7-9 2 9-7 3 8-8 4 8-8 5 3-13 6 10-6
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11-24-2007, 04:24 PM	#4
NEXTPROBOWLER 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 269	Re: The Elephant in the Living Room? I.S. your sooooooo right. doesnt patter if u have peyton manning, no running game means them ends are comin flyin off the edge..............ya dig yea

11-24-2007, 06:10 PM	#5
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,000	Re: The Elephant in the Living Room? Tusk, tusk, tusk. Brees = Elephant on the living room. I think not. OK, he has not always been top form. OK, he has made mistakes. But IMHO he has been off “rhythm” for 3 games, a bit “ho-hum” for 1 game, and close to the “rhythm” we expect for a top QB for the rest. At the end of the day, there is no elephant in the living room. We have a herd of elephants in the organization. I am sure you guys “know” what we could have done better: Draft Free Agency Replacement of Deuce as soon as he went down Choice of Bush as the RB. Bush is a HB (and a bloody good one too) Experienced back-up for Colston Play selection Defensive schemes Strength of the lines and secondary ……………
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11-24-2007, 07:48 PM	#6
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Re: The Elephant in the Living Room? "Replacement of Deuce as soon as he went down" Amen!!!!!!! Why didn't we bring up Branch right then and let him get some playing time?He's the biggest back we have on the roster and he's still on the practice squad? I really do wonder if we don't have the cart before the horse here.

11-24-2007, 09:31 PM	#7
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,989	Re: The Elephant in the Living Room? I think its very simple you protect, Brees and The Saints win just like they in 2006. From the Brees groupie, and dam proud to be a member. The QB the Saints ever had. LOL

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