Saints excel at protecting quarterback

SaintFanInATLHELL · 01-02-2008, 01:33 AM

Originally Posted by dasaints26

How many changes should be made to the offensive side of the ball? Last year we were 1st in the NFL for yardage per game. This year we end up 4th in the NFL for yardage per game. Is this just another stat, does it actually mean anything? The three teams ahead of us arent playing football this weekend either. Of course all three will play the week after because they earned a 1st round bye like we did last year. And by the way the team ranked 5th also got a 1st round bye.
After two solid years from the offense if you think we need to rebuild the o-line you might need to accept the fact you never will be content in life. Offensively we can hold our own and compete with anyone. Defensively we got issues. One area they tried to address just didnt pan out(Jason David) but we knew it was a problem last year and I'm sure they know it is still a problem.

And let the congregation say... AMEN!

SFIAH

hagan714 · 01-02-2008, 04:57 AM

Right now two moves are needed. A starting LT must step up from the group we drafted or be added. So Brown can move back to RT. LG needs youth. I am stil counting on Andy. But if it takes another year or two before he is ready I would like to see an addition made there in FA. OK thats 3.
Backups we need a T/G type badly. It is the one thing we do not have.

dasaints26 · 01-02-2008, 08:33 PM

Just doesnt seem to be a very appreciated group of guys. They give up a sack every 40 passing plays and our slashing qb deserves all the credit. The running game looks good at times inspite of the work of the o-line. It wouldnt matter if they were pro-bowl material someone else would get the credit. One last defense of the o-line we rank 28th running the ball because we rank 26th in attempts. The only way to get more consistant and gain more yardage on the ground would be to run the ball more. However when the 4th string rb gained 105 yards on 20 carries the coach called 60 pass plays. That is why we rank so low on rushing yards most teams that ran the ball alot also ranked pretty high for rushing totals for the year.

WhoDatQB · 01-03-2008, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by dasaints26

Just doesnt seem to be a very appreciated group of guys. They give up a sack every 40 passing plays and our slashing qb deserves all the credit. The running game looks good at times inspite of the work of the o-line. It wouldnt matter if they were pro-bowl material someone else would get the credit. One last defense of the o-line we rank 28th running the ball because we rank 26th in attempts. The only way to get more consistant and gain more yardage on the ground would be to run the ball more. However when the 4th string rb gained 105 yards on 20 carries the coach called 60 pass plays. That is why we rank so low on rushing yards most teams that ran the ball alot also ranked pretty high for rushing totals for the year.

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I have seen the offensive line not get ANY push on 1 yard to go situations this year to think they are anything but average to below average run blockers. How many good offensive lines do you see stacked up as many times as the Saints were this year? Not only were they stopped numerous times, the runner was dropped for a loss quite a few of them.

Great, for the most part(as a group, not individually) at pass blocking, you cannot say they aren't if you watch the games. However if you also watch the games you cannot say they are above average run blockers. Of course PT and others gashed some good gains running the ball, we threw it more than any team. Defenses are going to continually be ready for the pass. Peyton and co are not stupid enough to try and run the ball a ton, they do not have the talent for running it any more than they do.

papz · 01-03-2008, 12:03 PM

I'll start with this point that dasaints26 made...

One last defense of the o-line we rank 28th running the ball because we rank 26th in attempts. The only way to get more consistant and gain more yardage on the ground would be to run the ball more.

Do you think they are a good run blocking team?

I'm not trying to dance around a yes or no answer but I think we can be an effective run blocking team if we wanted to be. I wouldn't call them good or bad given that we have a pass happy offense and we didn't run the ball enough. So it's really inconclusive for me... if anything, average?

01-02-2008, 01:33 AM	#1
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,781	Re: Saints excel at protecting quarterback Originally Posted by dasaints26 How many changes should be made to the offensive side of the ball? Last year we were 1st in the NFL for yardage per game. This year we end up 4th in the NFL for yardage per game. Is this just another stat, does it actually mean anything? The three teams ahead of us arent playing football this weekend either. Of course all three will play the week after because they earned a 1st round bye like we did last year. And by the way the team ranked 5th also got a 1st round bye. After two solid years from the offense if you think we need to rebuild the o-line you might need to accept the fact you never will be content in life. Offensively we can hold our own and compete with anyone. Defensively we got issues. One area they tried to address just didnt pan out(Jason David) but we knew it was a problem last year and I'm sure they know it is still a problem. And let the congregation say... AMEN! SFIAH

01-02-2008, 04:57 AM	#2
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints excel at protecting quarterback Right now two moves are needed. A starting LT must step up from the group we drafted or be added. So Brown can move back to RT. LG needs youth. I am stil counting on Andy. But if it takes another year or two before he is ready I would like to see an addition made there in FA. OK thats 3. Backups we need a T/G type badly. It is the one thing we do not have.

01-02-2008, 08:33 PM	#3
dasaints26 100th Post Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 167	Re: Saints excel at protecting quarterback Just doesnt seem to be a very appreciated group of guys. They give up a sack every 40 passing plays and our slashing qb deserves all the credit. The running game looks good at times inspite of the work of the o-line. It wouldnt matter if they were pro-bowl material someone else would get the credit. One last defense of the o-line we rank 28th running the ball because we rank 26th in attempts. The only way to get more consistant and gain more yardage on the ground would be to run the ball more. However when the 4th string rb gained 105 yards on 20 carries the coach called 60 pass plays. That is why we rank so low on rushing yards most teams that ran the ball alot also ranked pretty high for rushing totals for the year.
dasaints26 100th Post Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 167

01-03-2008, 07:38 AM	#4
WhoDatQB Boondock Saint Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: F***ing Atlanta Posts: 322	Re: Saints excel at protecting quarterback Originally Posted by dasaints26 Just doesnt seem to be a very appreciated group of guys. They give up a sack every 40 passing plays and our slashing qb deserves all the credit. The running game looks good at times inspite of the work of the o-line. It wouldnt matter if they were pro-bowl material someone else would get the credit. One last defense of the o-line we rank 28th running the ball because we rank 26th in attempts. The only way to get more consistant and gain more yardage on the ground would be to run the ball more. However when the 4th string rb gained 105 yards on 20 carries the coach called 60 pass plays. That is why we rank so low on rushing yards most teams that ran the ball alot also ranked pretty high for rushing totals for the year. ========== I have seen the offensive line not get ANY push on 1 yard to go situations this year to think they are anything but average to below average run blockers. How many good offensive lines do you see stacked up as many times as the Saints were this year? Not only were they stopped numerous times, the runner was dropped for a loss quite a few of them. Great, for the most part(as a group, not individually) at pass blocking, you cannot say they aren't if you watch the games. However if you also watch the games you cannot say they are above average run blockers. Of course PT and others gashed some good gains running the ball, we threw it more than any team. Defenses are going to continually be ready for the pass. Peyton and co are not stupid enough to try and run the ball a ton, they do not have the talent for running it any more than they do.

01-03-2008, 12:03 PM	#5
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,768	Re: Saints excel at protecting quarterback I'll start with this point that dasaints26 made... One last defense of the o-line we rank 28th running the ball because we rank 26th in attempts. The only way to get more consistant and gain more yardage on the ground would be to run the ball more. Do you think they are a good run blocking team? I'm not trying to dance around a yes or no answer but I think we can be an effective run blocking team if we wanted to be. I wouldn't call them good or bad given that we have a pass happy offense and we didn't run the ball enough. So it's really inconclusive for me... if anything, average?