Per Rotoworld/ Roy Williams

procto · 01-21-2008, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

. My friend, you've wandered into the wrong SFIAH

really.....cause you seem to be proving my point for me!

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

. starting with the Rams.
The Rams that year were #4 in scoring defense in the league.SFIAH

now that makes them as good as the dome patrol??

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

. No. They all had great defenses. Top 5 defenses. It's a theme that's so consistent that it cannot be denied.SFIAH

that does not make them them the 00 raven!!

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

. You don't need an allstar team to have a great defense. Look at the Minnesota Vikings of the past 2 years. Their run defense is superb. SFIAH

more to my point!!

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

.Can you name more than one player on their defense?SFIAH

yea.....without looking it up, i can name most of them

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

. You need young guys with talent and a burning desire to succeed. Draft them or bring them in as free agents. If they don't work out, then sit them and get someone else

It happened on the offensive side of the ball in a single year. It can be done on defense. Not every position needs a pro bowler. But you need a squad that works together to achieve the goal.SFIAH

i love it! cant agree more!!

SFIAH[/QUOTE]

i think we agree more than we disagree.....draft all defensive players!!! i am all in, again my only point is that our defense sucks and will smith is not gonna make the diffence all by himself. he can be replaced, before we break the bank on his new contract lets look at options. we cannot pay him the kind of money that c grant is making and expect to bring in other players for the defense while remaining under the cap all at the same time

procto · 01-21-2008, 02:40 PM

look....we agree, we need some defensive players! many of them! we cannot win without some playmakers on the defense. that does not mean we need the defense of the decade to win ballgames. we dont even need the best defense in the league for the year! (you say top 5--i agree) we just need some competitive players and good coaching that will allow our OFFENSE to win the ballgame for us. anyway....nice talk, i see you know your stuff anyway!

SaintFanInATLHELL · 01-21-2008, 09:38 PM

I wanted to come back and apologize to procto. I misread his point in his previous post comparing other SB winning defenses to the top defenses like the 2000 Ravens. I thought he was saying that the Rams and the others were "not that good". But I see now that he meant relative to those #1 defenses.

Sorry again.

SFIAH

WhoDatQB · 01-22-2008, 07:49 AM

Alright people look at it this way.

If we shore up some defensive areas in FA and we can get him for a 2nd NEXT year would be great. If not then I am worried about pending a first day draft pick on a player that is not as bad of a need as defensive players are. However there is no way to be sure that whoever we draft in the second round would even start.

We do not know what the FO is thinking, if Meachem is going to be good then we are fine and do not need Williams. With all the weapons we have Bush in the slot, Moore, Copper, both TE's I think the pick can be spent better elsewhere, unless we can do a lot in Free Agency.

Someone said we have a lack of depth at TE. Um, NO we do not. Eric Johnson and Billy MIller are both very, very good TE's. Not great mind you, but they are very good.

procto · 01-22-2008, 12:50 PM

its cool saintsfan.....no harsh feelings here

01-21-2008, 02:35 PM	#31
procto Registered Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: bossier city Posts: 56	Re: Per Rotoworld/ Roy Williams Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL . My friend, you've wandered into the wrong SFIAH really.....cause you seem to be proving my point for me! Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL . starting with the Rams. The Rams that year were #4 in scoring defense in the league.SFIAH now that makes them as good as the dome patrol?? Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL . No. They all had great defenses. Top 5 defenses. It's a theme that's so consistent that it cannot be denied.SFIAH that does not make them them the 00 raven!! Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL . You don't need an allstar team to have a great defense. Look at the Minnesota Vikings of the past 2 years. Their run defense is superb. SFIAH more to my point!! Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL .Can you name more than one player on their defense?SFIAH yea.....without looking it up, i can name most of them Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL . You need young guys with talent and a burning desire to succeed. Draft them or bring them in as free agents. If they don't work out, then sit them and get someone else It happened on the offensive side of the ball in a single year. It can be done on defense. Not every position needs a pro bowler. But you need a squad that works together to achieve the goal.SFIAH i love it! cant agree more!! SFIAH[/QUOTE] i think we agree more than we disagree.....draft all defensive players!!! i am all in, again my only point is that our defense sucks and will smith is not gonna make the diffence all by himself. he can be replaced, before we break the bank on his new contract lets look at options. we cannot pay him the kind of money that c grant is making and expect to bring in other players for the defense while remaining under the cap all at the same time

01-21-2008, 02:40 PM	#32
procto Registered Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: bossier city Posts: 56	Re: Per Rotoworld/ Roy Williams look....we agree, we need some defensive players! many of them! we cannot win without some playmakers on the defense. that does not mean we need the defense of the decade to win ballgames. we dont even need the best defense in the league for the year! (you say top 5--i agree) we just need some competitive players and good coaching that will allow our OFFENSE to win the ballgame for us. anyway....nice talk, i see you know your stuff anyway!

01-21-2008, 09:38 PM	#33
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,647	Re: Per Rotoworld/ Roy Williams I wanted to come back and apologize to procto. I misread his point in his previous post comparing other SB winning defenses to the top defenses like the 2000 Ravens. I thought he was saying that the Rams and the others were "not that good". But I see now that he meant relative to those #1 defenses. Sorry again. SFIAH

01-22-2008, 07:49 AM	#34
WhoDatQB Boondock Saint Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: F***ing Atlanta Posts: 322	Re: Per Rotoworld/ Roy Williams Alright people look at it this way. If we shore up some defensive areas in FA and we can get him for a 2nd NEXT year would be great. If not then I am worried about pending a first day draft pick on a player that is not as bad of a need as defensive players are. However there is no way to be sure that whoever we draft in the second round would even start. We do not know what the FO is thinking, if Meachem is going to be good then we are fine and do not need Williams. With all the weapons we have Bush in the slot, Moore, Copper, both TE's I think the pick can be spent better elsewhere, unless we can do a lot in Free Agency. Someone said we have a lack of depth at TE. Um, NO we do not. Eric Johnson and Billy MIller are both very, very good TE's. Not great mind you, but they are very good.

01-22-2008, 12:50 PM	#35
procto Registered Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: bossier city Posts: 56	Re: Per Rotoworld/ Roy Williams its cool saintsfan.....no harsh feelings here

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