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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by saintsmissile Congratulations Loomis. You are now turning this team into the same mold as Haslett's. Ogeron? COME ON! They guy failed in his one attempt to be a head coach, so I guess that warrants him jumping ...
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01-24-2008, 05:45 PM | #11 |
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Re: Saints hire Orgeron as defensive line coach
Originally Posted by saintsmissile
you want Gibbs fired, yet on another thread you stated that the defense needs help at every position. So is it Gibbs' fault he has no talent, or is it that the defense is talented, but not well coached?
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01-24-2008, 05:54 PM | #12 |
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Re: Saints hire Orgeron as defensive line coach
So umm... can you answer that question I posed?
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01-24-2008, 05:58 PM | #13 |
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Re: Saints hire Orgeron as defensive line coach
Oh man you're just digging yourself in a deeper hole... you should just stop and pretend this thread never happened.
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01-24-2008, 06:02 PM | #14 |
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Re: Saints hire Orgeron as defensive line coach
Originally Posted by saintsmissile
Ole Miss DL Greg Hardy led the SEC in sacks with 10 and had 18.5 tackles for losses. Another DL Peria Jerry had 3.5 sacks and 14 tackles for losses. So I would say the DL was pretty good. Did Orgreon have something to do with their play? I would have to say yes.
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01-24-2008, 06:18 PM | #15 |
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Re: Saints hire Orgeron as defensive line coach
Again, he is hired to coach the DL not head coach. And it looks like the players on the DLine play well under his coaching everywhere he has been.
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01-24-2008, 06:51 PM | #16 |
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Re: Saints hire Orgeron as defensive line coach
Originally Posted by saintsmissile
please explain to me how you can unequivocally dismiss Gibbs if he doesn't have any talent to work with? Let's see him work with some players on defense first, and then if he bombs, by all means it will be time for a change.
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01-24-2008, 07:16 PM | #17 |
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Re: Saints hire Orgeron as defensive line coach
Give me ONE example of how Mike Tomlin established himself on the NFL level to warrant a job with the Bucs?
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01-24-2008, 09:34 PM | #18 |
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Re: Saints hire Orgeron as defensive line coach
I was hoping this was the tip of the iceberg (on defensive coaching changes), but the more I thought about it, if they are going to replace Gibbs, they wouldn't make this change now. They would wait to after the new DC was installed to get his own men.
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01-24-2008, 11:11 PM | #19 |
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Re: Saints hire Orgeron as defensive line coach
Just because he is coming from college does not mean a thing. All coaches came from the college rankings. I am willing to see what he can do. Look it can not get any worse. Well much worse. We are down there in the rankings.
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01-24-2008, 11:30 PM | #20 |
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Re: Saints hire Orgeron as defensive line coach
I just got 2 points to make.
1) regarding our old d-line coach how many interesting stats and team accomplishments can you recall from his coaching history(without looking them up first). Do you know how many sacks his unit produced during his 2nd year as a d-line coach? What made him earn his 1st job in the NFL? What were his qualifications to justify hiring him as the Saints d-line coach? 2)What was the reason Ole Miss had a losing record? Was it the poor play of the d-line or the o-line? Bad qb play or bad lb play? The Saints had a losing record it must have been the center's fault(love to bring that up). Just because he had a losing record does not mean he cant still be a positional coach does it? Reminds me of that great offense from the Dolphins this year. Their head coach gets fired then gets an OC job. |