Saints Can't Pick Defensive Players

foreverfan · 03-04-2008, 09:48 PM

Ever wonder why we can play defense. One look at the defensive draft pick since 2001 says it all.

2007
Usama Young - backup
David Jones - never played for team
Marvin Mitchell - 8 whole tackles! Yay!

2006
Roman Harper - starter, out of place most of the time
Rob Ninkovich - no longer on team
Josh Lay - no longer on team

2005
Josh Bullocks - starter, out of place most of the time
Alfred Fincher - no longer on team
Jason Jefferson - no longer on team
Jimmy Verdon - no longer on team

2004
Will Smith - mediocre starter
Courtney Watson - no longer on team
Rodney Leisle - no longer on team
Colby Bockwoldt - no longer on team

2003
Johnathan Sullivan - out of football
Cie Grant - out of football
Melvin Williams - out of football

2002
Charles Grant - starter, out of shape
James Allen - out of football
Keyuo Craver - out of football
Mel Mitchell - career backup
Derrius Monroe - out of football

2001
Sedrick Hodge - out of football
Kenny Smith - out of football
Ennis Davis - out of football

TheDeuce · 03-04-2008, 10:05 PM

I agree that we suck at drafting defensive players, but... did you seriously refer to Will Smith as a "mediocre starter"?!?!?! The guy went to a Pro Bowl two seasons ago. Come on

foreverfan · 03-04-2008, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

I agree that we suck at drafting defensive players, but... did you seriously refer to Will Smith as a "mediocre starter"?!?!?! The guy went to a Pro Bowl two seasons ago. Come on

I'm trying to motivate the guy.

hagan714 · 03-04-2008, 10:11 PM

Usama Young - backup

I like what I saw out of him last year. Small school kid that needs time. That is why I sit here and wonder why everyone is so hyped over small school CB when Young is a good example of what the learning curve is for them. Carlson is the kid that can step in and play right away. same goes fot Talbid. But talbid is a FS whaiting for the chance to shine.

LordOfEntropy · 03-05-2008, 10:12 AM

Kinda depressing, isn't it? When listed like that, it sure seems depressing. I still have hopes for Young though, and I agree that Will Smith is much better than mediocre. If we don't give him a new contract - just watch and see home many teams will be beating on our door to get him.

andersen · 03-05-2008, 10:30 AM

A lot of LB's on that list. Five out of six picks are still playing though. Mora had a great defense, not built through the draft, but through his WFL players.

foreverfan · 03-05-2008, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by andersen

A lot of LB's on that list. Five out of six picks are still playing though. Mora had a great defense, not built through the draft, but through his WFL players.

Well the reason their not on the team is because they are not good enough to make the Saints. Imagine that. Pretty bad by anybodies account.

SapperSaint · 03-05-2008, 12:01 PM

I wouldn't say "kinda depressing", I would say it is vomitous the way we draft.

foreverfan · 03-05-2008, 12:18 PM

QUESTION: How do you stop missing on so many defensive draft choices.

SOLUTION: Use a Dart Board.

LordOfEntropy · 03-05-2008, 01:07 PM

Here's a brilliant idea - instead of drafting anymore D players, lets' just trade our picks to other teams, picking up THEIR drafted players. They all seem to do better than us anyway.

40+ years of sucking in the draft (albeit with a few exceptions) has gotten old.

03-04-2008, 09:48 PM	#1
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Saints Can't Pick Defensive Players Ever wonder why we can play defense. One look at the defensive draft pick since 2001 says it all. 2007 Usama Young - backup David Jones - never played for team Marvin Mitchell - 8 whole tackles! Yay! 2006 Roman Harper - starter, out of place most of the time Rob Ninkovich - no longer on team Josh Lay - no longer on team 2005 Josh Bullocks - starter, out of place most of the time Alfred Fincher - no longer on team Jason Jefferson - no longer on team Jimmy Verdon - no longer on team 2004 Will Smith - mediocre starter Courtney Watson - no longer on team Rodney Leisle - no longer on team Colby Bockwoldt - no longer on team 2003 Johnathan Sullivan - out of football Cie Grant - out of football Melvin Williams - out of football 2002 Charles Grant - starter, out of shape James Allen - out of football Keyuo Craver - out of football Mel Mitchell - career backup Derrius Monroe - out of football 2001 Sedrick Hodge - out of football Kenny Smith - out of football Ennis Davis - out of football
	2019 Death of a Parrot.

03-04-2008, 10:05 PM	#2
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Re: Saints Can't Pick Defensive Players I agree that we suck at drafting defensive players, but... did you seriously refer to Will Smith as a "mediocre starter"?!?!?! The guy went to a Pro Bowl two seasons ago. Come on
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03-04-2008, 10:09 PM	#3
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints Can't Pick Defensive Players Originally Posted by TheDeuce I agree that we suck at drafting defensive players, but... did you seriously refer to Will Smith as a "mediocre starter"?!?!?! The guy went to a Pro Bowl two seasons ago. Come on I'm trying to motivate the guy.

03-04-2008, 10:11 PM	#4
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints Can't Pick Defensive Players Usama Young - backup I like what I saw out of him last year. Small school kid that needs time. That is why I sit here and wonder why everyone is so hyped over small school CB when Young is a good example of what the learning curve is for them. Carlson is the kid that can step in and play right away. same goes fot Talbid. But talbid is a FS whaiting for the chance to shine.

03-05-2008, 10:12 AM	#5
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	Re: Saints Can't Pick Defensive Players Kinda depressing, isn't it? When listed like that, it sure seems depressing. I still have hopes for Young though, and I agree that Will Smith is much better than mediocre. If we don't give him a new contract - just watch and see home many teams will be beating on our door to get him.

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03-05-2008, 10:30 AM	#6
andersen With an "E" Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Madisonville, LA Posts: 429	Re: Saints Can't Pick Defensive Players A lot of LB's on that list. Five out of six picks are still playing though. Mora had a great defense, not built through the draft, but through his WFL players.

03-05-2008, 11:59 AM	#7
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints Can't Pick Defensive Players Originally Posted by andersen A lot of LB's on that list. Five out of six picks are still playing though. Mora had a great defense, not built through the draft, but through his WFL players. Well the reason their not on the team is because they are not good enough to make the Saints. Imagine that. Pretty bad by anybodies account.

03-05-2008, 12:01 PM	#8
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Saints Can't Pick Defensive Players I wouldn't say "kinda depressing", I would say it is vomitous the way we draft.

03-05-2008, 12:18 PM	#9
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints Can't Pick Defensive Players QUESTION: How do you stop missing on so many defensive draft choices. SOLUTION: Use a Dart Board.

03-05-2008, 01:07 PM	#10
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	Re: Saints Can't Pick Defensive Players Here's a brilliant idea - instead of drafting anymore D players, lets' just trade our picks to other teams, picking up THEIR drafted players. They all seem to do better than us anyway. 40+ years of sucking in the draft (albeit with a few exceptions) has gotten old.