$30 million mistake?

Euphoria · 03-05-2008, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by biloxi-indian

Accepted. However, I wonder if the new DB coach will change up the "system". The Saints now have two corners that come from teams that play a lot of zone schemes...and the Saints "have" played man coverage in the past.

The Saints safety play has to change!

BTW; I don't think MM will be available during 2008.

I can answer that question... DB coach has very little to do with the changing of the system. All I know if he can't coach up our damn S and FS's we are still going to suck like last year. Those guys have got to play their assinments which FAILED horrible.

I don't recall seeing a whole lot of people calling these guys out so far but that was very much a huge problem. Rush maybe able to hide there crappyness though.

biloxi-indian · 03-05-2008, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

I can answer that question... DB coach has very little to do with the changing of the system. All I know if he can't coach up our damn S and FS's we are still going to suck like last year. Those guys have got to play their assinments which FAILED horrible.

I don't recall seeing a whole lot of people calling these guys out so far but that was very much a huge problem. Rush maybe able to hide there crappyness though.

Euphoria, I think with the new DB coach a$$ on the line, along with Gibbs, that his input to the DC would be heard. Trying to do the same as in 2007 would be insanity. I have heard on more than one occasion that the Saints are happy with Harper and Bullocks...not me saying this but the organization, tells me they believe something has to change with the system or scheme.

They have to evaluate the talent they have acquired and must adjust the scheme to the talent. Not the other way around. That did not work in 2007 with David!

Good front 7 pressure will mask most ineptness with the DB/S. IMHO

LordOfEntropy · 03-05-2008, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

I don't recall seeing a whole lot of people calling these guys out so far but that was very much a huge problem.

I agree. We've had some threads about this in the past, though not that many people have ben involved in them. But I know of at least one thread where I was calling out the FS play (or lack thereof), and I believe it was Hagan that was piping in with agreement. It might've been someone else though. Regardless, there's been at least one thread about it.

In my opinion, FS (Bullocks) is the weakest position on this entire defense, followed very closely by LB (Shanle). Only after them would I list CB and DT as weak points. MLB would've been in that list too, but we've got Vilma now. And CB would have been higher, but now that Gay is in the mix, I feel a little better (only a little). Anyway, I think Bullocks has got to be replaced (highest priority).

You know, I only feel good about ONE position on this D, and that's defensive end.

03-05-2008, 02:51 PM	#1
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: $30 million mistake? Originally Posted by biloxi-indian Accepted. However, I wonder if the new DB coach will change up the "system". The Saints now have two corners that come from teams that play a lot of zone schemes...and the Saints "have" played man coverage in the past. The Saints safety play has to change! BTW; I don't think MM will be available during 2008. I can answer that question... DB coach has very little to do with the changing of the system. All I know if he can't coach up our damn S and FS's we are still going to suck like last year. Those guys have got to play their assinments which FAILED horrible. I don't recall seeing a whole lot of people calling these guys out so far but that was very much a huge problem. Rush maybe able to hide there crappyness though.

03-05-2008, 02:59 PM	#2
biloxi-indian Site Donor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 1,706	Re: $30 million mistake? Originally Posted by Euphoria I can answer that question... DB coach has very little to do with the changing of the system. All I know if he can't coach up our damn S and FS's we are still going to suck like last year. Those guys have got to play their assinments which FAILED horrible. I don't recall seeing a whole lot of people calling these guys out so far but that was very much a huge problem. Rush maybe able to hide there crappyness though. Euphoria, I think with the new DB coach a$$ on the line, along with Gibbs, that his input to the DC would be heard. Trying to do the same as in 2007 would be insanity. I have heard on more than one occasion that the Saints are happy with Harper and Bullocks...not me saying this but the organization, tells me they believe something has to change with the system or scheme. They have to evaluate the talent they have acquired and must adjust the scheme to the talent. Not the other way around. That did not work in 2007 with David! Good front 7 pressure will mask most ineptness with the DB/S. IMHO
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03-05-2008, 03:19 PM	#3
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	Re: $30 million mistake? Originally Posted by Euphoria I don't recall seeing a whole lot of people calling these guys out so far but that was very much a huge problem. I agree. We've had some threads about this in the past, though not that many people have ben involved in them. But I know of at least one thread where I was calling out the FS play (or lack thereof), and I believe it was Hagan that was piping in with agreement. It might've been someone else though. Regardless, there's been at least one thread about it. In my opinion, FS (Bullocks) is the weakest position on this entire defense, followed very closely by LB (Shanle). Only after them would I list CB and DT as weak points. MLB would've been in that list too, but we've got Vilma now. And CB would have been higher, but now that Gay is in the mix, I feel a little better (only a little). Anyway, I think Bullocks has got to be replaced (highest priority). You know, I only feel good about ONE position on this D, and that's defensive end.
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