Dear Mickey Loomis.....Go Get DeAngelo Hall!!!!!!

hagan714 · 03-07-2008, 08:45 AM

If hall goes it will be on draft day to move up the board. I still think Atlanta at 3 is the best bet right now to move up to 1

cgctobe · 03-07-2008, 08:46 AM

I have one question....Why is nobody else trying to scoop him up?

hagan714 · 03-07-2008, 08:50 AM

Price of resigning is my guess.

foreverfan · 03-07-2008, 08:53 AM

I'd give a 2nd at most if and only if we can work out a 3 year deal.

hagan714 · 03-07-2008, 09:03 AM

at what price? 8 million a year?

gandhi1007 · 03-07-2008, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

at what price? 8 million a year?

I don't know what it would cost per year for multiple years, but his 1st year would only cost $4.25 million. We do know that much. We're paying Jason David & Randall Gay that much. If D. Hall wants double that....he's worth it!!!! He's three times as good as either of those bums!!!!!!!!!!!

WhoDatQB · 03-07-2008, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by cgctobe

I have one question....Why is nobody else trying to scoop him up?

The Falcons want a 1st round pick for him and have not even listened to anything else.

Hall said he would play out his contract if they said they would not franchise him, the team said sorry, we will do what we want.

Hall is just plain and simply a schmuck. He spits, runs his mouth, get consecutive unsportsmanlike penalties called on himself, and thinks he is a top 5 cornerback in the league.

He is not a top 5, he is short, and a punk. Let's throw away a draft pick for a guy for one years worth of play. You think giving away a 1st or second(best case scenario) to gamble on a player you may have only one year is a good deal? You think even if he is well behaved next year, and we want to resign him, that he will not expect a monster contract next year? Come one stop being so gullable.

While he is better than anything we have healthy(sorry I like MM more than Hall) it is a high price to pay for a player for only one year and you really think he is going to become a good character guy after having not been one for so long? Give up a second round pick for a guy we may have only one year?

No thanks.

gandhi1007 · 03-07-2008, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDatQB

The Falcons want a 1st round pick for him and have not even listened to anything else.

Hall said he would play out his contract if they said they would not franchise him, the team said sorry, we will do what we want.

Hall is just plain and simply a schmuck. He spits, runs his mouth, get consecutive unsportsmanlike penalties called on himself, and thinks he is a top 5 cornerback in the league.

He is not a top 5, he is short, and a punk. Let's throw away a draft pick for a guy for one years worth of play. You think giving away a 1st or second(best case scenario) to gamble on a player you may have only one year is a good deal? You think even if he is well behaved next year, and we want to resign him, that he will not expect a monster contract next year? Come one stop being so gullable.

While he is better than anything we have healthy(sorry I like MM more than Hall) it is a high price to pay for a player for only one year and you really think he is going to become a good character guy after having not been one for so long? Give up a second round pick for a guy we may have only one year?

No thanks.

1st of all....DeAngelo Hall IS a top 5 CB in the league.....period. Can you name 5 better? HELL NO!!!! Nobody can and still maintain their integrity. Would I give up the #10 overall pick for him? Sure....but Atlanta would have to give up something too....maybe we give our 1st & 3rd for D. Hall & their 3rd. Anyway....yes, the guy talks smack. What star NFL player doesn't? I never said I liked him as a person. He does, however, back it up on the field every Sunday. He doesn't take plays off & he blankets BIG receivers like Terrell Owens, etc... even with his "shortness"....notice the sarcasm. Say what you will, but I think he's a better CB than Asante Samuel for the simple fact that Samuel had a better supporting crew & played zone. Hall makes Pro Bowls by playing man to man for a sub-par Falcons defense. Read between the lines man.

gandhi1007 · 03-07-2008, 09:36 AM

Here's an article from FoxSports:

New Orleans Saints, DeAngelo Hall,Asante Samuel and what to do in the draft • Southern Hospitality - FOX Sports Blogs

"DeAngelo Hall CB for the Atlanta Falcons wants to move to a new home. Well Mr. Hall how does New Orleans sound to you? It's a short trip and the best part is you will have an opportunity twice a season to stick it to the team you feel stabbed you in the back.

The New Orleans Saints are expected to choose a CB with the 10th overall pick in this Aprils draft. All signs show that they are eyeing South Florida CB Mike Jenkins. With Asante Samuels looking for something around 10 mill. this season, it's said the the Patriots are also eyeing Jenkins as well. Other Mock Drafts have the Saints who are in desperate need of a good cover corner also giving much thought on Troy's Leodis McKelvin.

My opinion though is at 24, DeAngelo Hall is one of the top 5 CB's in the league. Giving up a first round pick and possibly a pick in the latter rounds might be a wise decision. Atleast you know what you are getting from Hall. There is always the possibility that a draftee will be a bust and we all know the Saints have certainly had their share of those.

New Orleans needs defensive help in a bad way. Free agent pick up from last season Jason David just isn't getting it done. That's not the only help the Saints need though. They could really use a big time MLB and after persuing Zach Thomas who decided to play close to home in Dallas, this makes the draft and free agency even more interesting for the fans.

You see there is this LB from USC named Keith Rivers who is versatile and can play both MLB and outside. If New Orleans doesn't make a move for Hall then I think this might be a smarter draft pick than any CB that could be available to them. That is if he is still there for them to choose. Also this could allow the Saints to maybe pick a CB in the second round, someone like LSU's Chevis Jackson. He has great size and strength for a CB and plays pretty smart.

Back to Asante Samuels if the Patriots do not resign him and let's say they pull of a trade for Hall, which would be good for them because he is as good if not better for less money. This would also allow the New Orleans Saints to persue Samuels whom they thought of just a year ago.

The next few weeks will be interesting to say the least. With the combine underway in Indy and the draft a little more than a month away. Lots of speculating will be going on. Things will start to clear up though as the weeks move on. I for one am anxious and ready for some football."

pakowitz · 03-07-2008, 11:41 AM

Here is what stat guru KC Joyner (The Football Scientist; he watches every pass play of every game!)said about him before this season:

"Overrated Cornerbacks:

DeAngelo Hall

This is the second consecutive season Hall makes this list. He receives this honor because he once again made the Pro Bowl, despite posting simply abysmal metrics.

His 9.2 YPA (yards given up per pass attempt thrown his way) ranked 76th among cornerbacks.

Hall's 47.1 success percentage (incompletions on passes thrown his way) was solid (31st in the league), but his 17.9 missed pass percentage (Inaccurate, due to QB, or dropped passes, due to WR, that cause an incompletion.

Missed passes are used to measure how lucky a cornerback was in coverage.) was one of the highest in the league.

That means a large percentage of Hall's success was due to luck.

His supporters would point out that many of the big plays he allowed were due in part to not getting good help from the Falcons' safeties.

That might be the case, but Hall's overall YPA was still only .8 yards better than Jason Webster's figure (his teammate).

Furthermore, Charles Woodson had just as little help from the Packers' mediocre safeties and still put up great metrics."

03-07-2008, 08:45 AM	#11
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03-07-2008, 08:46 AM	#12
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03-07-2008, 08:50 AM	#13
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03-07-2008, 08:53 AM	#14
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Dear Mickey Loomis.....Go Get DeAngelo Hall!!!!!! I'd give a 2nd at most if and only if we can work out a 3 year deal.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Dear Mickey Loomis.....Go Get DeAngelo Hall!!!!!! at what price? 8 million a year?

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03-07-2008, 09:12 AM	#16
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Re: Dear Mickey Loomis.....Go Get DeAngelo Hall!!!!!! Originally Posted by hagan714 at what price? 8 million a year? I don't know what it would cost per year for multiple years, but his 1st year would only cost $4.25 million. We do know that much. We're paying Jason David & Randall Gay that much. If D. Hall wants double that....he's worth it!!!! He's three times as good as either of those bums!!!!!!!!!!!

03-07-2008, 09:14 AM	#17
WhoDatQB Boondock Saint Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: F***ing Atlanta Posts: 322	Re: Dear Mickey Loomis.....Go Get DeAngelo Hall!!!!!! Originally Posted by cgctobe I have one question....Why is nobody else trying to scoop him up? The Falcons want a 1st round pick for him and have not even listened to anything else. Hall said he would play out his contract if they said they would not franchise him, the team said sorry, we will do what we want. Hall is just plain and simply a schmuck. He spits, runs his mouth, get consecutive unsportsmanlike penalties called on himself, and thinks he is a top 5 cornerback in the league. He is not a top 5, he is short, and a punk. Let's throw away a draft pick for a guy for one years worth of play. You think giving away a 1st or second(best case scenario) to gamble on a player you may have only one year is a good deal? You think even if he is well behaved next year, and we want to resign him, that he will not expect a monster contract next year? Come one stop being so gullable. While he is better than anything we have healthy(sorry I like MM more than Hall) it is a high price to pay for a player for only one year and you really think he is going to become a good character guy after having not been one for so long? Give up a second round pick for a guy we may have only one year? No thanks.

03-07-2008, 09:31 AM	#18
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Re: Dear Mickey Loomis.....Go Get DeAngelo Hall!!!!!! Originally Posted by WhoDatQB The Falcons want a 1st round pick for him and have not even listened to anything else. Hall said he would play out his contract if they said they would not franchise him, the team said sorry, we will do what we want. Hall is just plain and simply a schmuck. He spits, runs his mouth, get consecutive unsportsmanlike penalties called on himself, and thinks he is a top 5 cornerback in the league. He is not a top 5, he is short, and a punk. Let's throw away a draft pick for a guy for one years worth of play. You think giving away a 1st or second(best case scenario) to gamble on a player you may have only one year is a good deal? You think even if he is well behaved next year, and we want to resign him, that he will not expect a monster contract next year? Come one stop being so gullable. While he is better than anything we have healthy(sorry I like MM more than Hall) it is a high price to pay for a player for only one year and you really think he is going to become a good character guy after having not been one for so long? Give up a second round pick for a guy we may have only one year? No thanks. 1st of all....DeAngelo Hall IS a top 5 CB in the league.....period. Can you name 5 better? HELL NO!!!! Nobody can and still maintain their integrity. Would I give up the #10 overall pick for him? Sure....but Atlanta would have to give up something too....maybe we give our 1st & 3rd for D. Hall & their 3rd. Anyway....yes, the guy talks smack. What star NFL player doesn't? I never said I liked him as a person. He does, however, back it up on the field every Sunday. He doesn't take plays off & he blankets BIG receivers like Terrell Owens, etc... even with his "shortness"....notice the sarcasm. Say what you will, but I think he's a better CB than Asante Samuel for the simple fact that Samuel had a better supporting crew & played zone. Hall makes Pro Bowls by playing man to man for a sub-par Falcons defense. Read between the lines man.
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03-07-2008, 09:36 AM	#19
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Re: Dear Mickey Loomis.....Go Get DeAngelo Hall!!!!!! Here's an article from FoxSports: New Orleans Saints, DeAngelo Hall,Asante Samuel and what to do in the draft • Southern Hospitality - FOX Sports Blogs "DeAngelo Hall CB for the Atlanta Falcons wants to move to a new home. Well Mr. Hall how does New Orleans sound to you? It's a short trip and the best part is you will have an opportunity twice a season to stick it to the team you feel stabbed you in the back. The New Orleans Saints are expected to choose a CB with the 10th overall pick in this Aprils draft. All signs show that they are eyeing South Florida CB Mike Jenkins. With Asante Samuels looking for something around 10 mill. this season, it's said the the Patriots are also eyeing Jenkins as well. Other Mock Drafts have the Saints who are in desperate need of a good cover corner also giving much thought on Troy's Leodis McKelvin. My opinion though is at 24, DeAngelo Hall is one of the top 5 CB's in the league. Giving up a first round pick and possibly a pick in the latter rounds might be a wise decision. Atleast you know what you are getting from Hall. There is always the possibility that a draftee will be a bust and we all know the Saints have certainly had their share of those. New Orleans needs defensive help in a bad way. Free agent pick up from last season Jason David just isn't getting it done. That's not the only help the Saints need though. They could really use a big time MLB and after persuing Zach Thomas who decided to play close to home in Dallas, this makes the draft and free agency even more interesting for the fans. You see there is this LB from USC named Keith Rivers who is versatile and can play both MLB and outside. If New Orleans doesn't make a move for Hall then I think this might be a smarter draft pick than any CB that could be available to them. That is if he is still there for them to choose. Also this could allow the Saints to maybe pick a CB in the second round, someone like LSU's Chevis Jackson. He has great size and strength for a CB and plays pretty smart. Back to Asante Samuels if the Patriots do not resign him and let's say they pull of a trade for Hall, which would be good for them because he is as good if not better for less money. This would also allow the New Orleans Saints to persue Samuels whom they thought of just a year ago. The next few weeks will be interesting to say the least. With the combine underway in Indy and the draft a little more than a month away. Lots of speculating will be going on. Things will start to clear up though as the weeks move on. I for one am anxious and ready for some football."
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03-07-2008, 11:41 AM	#20
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Re: Dear Mickey Loomis.....Go Get DeAngelo Hall!!!!!! Here is what stat guru KC Joyner (The Football Scientist; he watches every pass play of every game!)said about him before this season: "Overrated Cornerbacks: DeAngelo Hall This is the second consecutive season Hall makes this list. He receives this honor because he once again made the Pro Bowl, despite posting simply abysmal metrics. His 9.2 YPA (yards given up per pass attempt thrown his way) ranked 76th among cornerbacks. Hall's 47.1 success percentage (incompletions on passes thrown his way) was solid (31st in the league), but his 17.9 missed pass percentage (Inaccurate, due to QB, or dropped passes, due to WR, that cause an incompletion. Missed passes are used to measure how lucky a cornerback was in coverage.) was one of the highest in the league. That means a large percentage of Hall's success was due to luck. His supporters would point out that many of the big plays he allowed were due in part to not getting good help from the Falcons' safeties. That might be the case, but Hall's overall YPA was still only .8 yards better than Jason Webster's figure (his teammate). Furthermore, Charles Woodson had just as little help from the Packers' mediocre safeties and still put up great metrics."
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