Dear Mickey Loomis.....Go Get DeAngelo Hall!!!!!!

foreverfan · 03-07-2008, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by crosoccer05

This is the way I look at it... No I don't like Hall, but yes im all for going out and getting him. If we were to land this guy it would solidify our CB's with MM making huge strides. We would have Gay and David for Dime and Nickel formations, now I know David can't cover a #1 or #2 receiver but let's put him up against a #3 or 4 and see what happens. Also if we were to get Hall we would not need to draft a CB with our first round pick, and picking up Morgan makes our LB's that much better. We could take a DT with our first pick whether it be dorsy or ellis if they slip that far. With Charles, Will, Bryan, and either dorsy or ellis we would compete for the top D line in the league. And if all that were to happen it would constitute one of the BEST defenses in the league!

Well you think we have an overpaid backfield on offense....

gandhi1007 · 03-07-2008, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

Am I reading this right? You are saying that Asante Samuels is MAYBE better than Hall?

Reaching with Tillman, Asomugha, Pacman?

Dude, do you watch the games or you just go by the stat sheets you read of blogs/ESPN?

No....it comes from playing football & knowing the benefits of systems at certain positions. Samuels benefitted from a 3-4 zone defense. The likes of which had one hell of a front seven & a damn good safety. Watch his stats fall off next year. Pac-Man showed signs, but how much did we get to see? Approximately 1 year of Pro Bowl quality play. Tillman & Asomugha are in my top 10, but not top 5. Hall is the real deal....a loud mouth, but still the real deal. Besides that....I'll go on to say that Deion Sanders talked more smack than any other player on the field when he played, but.....I can say that he also backed it up on the field. Hall is of the same mold. I'm not saying he's "Prime Time", but most good CB's talk s**t.

darby · 03-07-2008, 03:33 PM

Sounds good to me. Maybe gonna be a draft day deal. Hall for our 1st round pick. Would rather spend it on a sure thing than a maybe. Looks like it could happen. Why not do it now though? Don't think Lito is an option however. Philli gonna trade him for Fitzgerald plus a pick.

Boogro · 03-07-2008, 04:01 PM

Now that we are mentioning cbs that we'd rather have over Hall...I'll add 2 more to the list....Cromartie and Mathis....Now if you want to go by stats, Samuel had the most ints over the last 2 years than any other cornerback. How can you not put him in the top 5? If you think Hall deserves to be in the top fine, that's fine...It's your opinion and you are definately entitled to it. But to give up a high draft pick for 1 year of service and a demand of a big contract for a player that has sportsmanship issues, no thanks.

Tobias-Reiper · 03-07-2008, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by gandhi1007

No....it comes from playing football ....Watch his stats fall off next year
.

That there disqulifies you.
a) stats mean dick in football.
b) playing peewe is not "playing football".

lsutigerfan · 03-07-2008, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by gandhi1007

Okay....as much as I dislike the guy, he's a top 5 CB in the league. You can get him for half the money Asante Samuel got & he's a man to man corner. Hello....this is what we play! We don't have to gamble in the draft or pick up someone's nickel corner from a zone defense in hopes that he can start. You know you'll have a bonafide CB to blanket WR's. I really don't see why we haven't pursued this guy. He's a perfect fit for our defense & as for as top flight corners are concerned....he's relatively a bargain.

Do you reallt think that the Atlanta Falcons would even consider trading to there rival the saints. theres a beeter chance os us getting Lito or Trufant

NarwhalHunter · 03-07-2008, 08:18 PM

So he can run a fast 40 time. Show me how Hall's 'top 5 stats' are in comparison to the other guys Tobias listed.

WhoDatQB · 03-07-2008, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by gandhi1007

No....it comes from playing football & knowing the benefits of systems at certain positions. Samuels benefitted from a 3-4 zone defense. The likes of which had one hell of a front seven & a damn good safety. Watch his stats fall off next year. Pac-Man showed signs, but how much did we get to see? Approximately 1 year of Pro Bowl quality play. Tillman & Asomugha are in my top 10, but not top 5. Hall is the real deal....a loud mouth, but still the real deal. Besides that....I'll go on to say that Deion Sanders talked more smack than any other player on the field when he played, but.....I can say that he also backed it up on the field. Hall is of the same mold. I'm not saying he's "Prime Time", but most good CB's talk s**t.

===============

OK, now I agree that I do not think samuels is that great. He played in a zone style defense, however the Eagles rarely make personnel mistakes, and the Patriots play some man to man coverages.

However there are plenty of CB's I would rather have.

1. Champ Bailey
2. Marcus Trufant
3. Charles Woodson
4. Al Harris
5. Mike McKenzie
6. Antonio Cromartie
7. Terence Newman
8. Nate Clements
9. Walt Harris
10. Nnamdi Asomugha
11. Charles Tillman
12. Asante Samuels

While I expect all really good CB's to talk smack, I do not expect them to also lose a game single handedly for a team, as Hall as done on two separate occasions with multiple personal foul calls on one drive.

beauchristopher · 03-07-2008, 10:52 PM

I am nor in favor or against anything the Saints choose to do..
But whoever said the Falcons wouldn't trade with the Saints.. I can see how they would. The would have 2 picks in the top 10.. to rebuild their franchise with.. of course they would.. They aren't going to have Hall next season any ways.. They probably wish we would do this trade.. The chance for them to draft Ellis and McFadden.. or they could get Matt Ryan and Ellis.. etc.. shoot yeah they would lol.

They have to look long term.. we are much more closer to a championship if the defense improves.

03-07-2008, 02:29 PM	#31
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Dear Mickey Loomis.....Go Get DeAngelo Hall!!!!!! Originally Posted by crosoccer05 This is the way I look at it... No I don't like Hall, but yes im all for going out and getting him. If we were to land this guy it would solidify our CB's with MM making huge strides. We would have Gay and David for Dime and Nickel formations, now I know David can't cover a #1 or #2 receiver but let's put him up against a #3 or 4 and see what happens. Also if we were to get Hall we would not need to draft a CB with our first round pick, and picking up Morgan makes our LB's that much better. We could take a DT with our first pick whether it be dorsy or ellis if they slip that far. With Charles, Will, Bryan, and either dorsy or ellis we would compete for the top D line in the league. And if all that were to happen it would constitute one of the BEST defenses in the league! Well you think we have an overpaid backfield on offense....

03-07-2008, 02:43 PM	#32
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Re: Dear Mickey Loomis.....Go Get DeAngelo Hall!!!!!! Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper Am I reading this right? You are saying that Asante Samuels is MAYBE better than Hall? Reaching with Tillman, Asomugha, Pacman? Dude, do you watch the games or you just go by the stat sheets you read of blogs/ESPN? No....it comes from playing football & knowing the benefits of systems at certain positions. Samuels benefitted from a 3-4 zone defense. The likes of which had one hell of a front seven & a damn good safety. Watch his stats fall off next year. Pac-Man showed signs, but how much did we get to see? Approximately 1 year of Pro Bowl quality play. Tillman & Asomugha are in my top 10, but not top 5. Hall is the real deal....a loud mouth, but still the real deal. Besides that....I'll go on to say that Deion Sanders talked more smack than any other player on the field when he played, but.....I can say that he also backed it up on the field. Hall is of the same mold. I'm not saying he's "Prime Time", but most good CB's talk s**t.
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03-07-2008, 03:33 PM	#33
darby Rookie Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 21	Re: Dear Mickey Loomis.....Go Get DeAngelo Hall!!!!!! Sounds good to me. Maybe gonna be a draft day deal. Hall for our 1st round pick. Would rather spend it on a sure thing than a maybe. Looks like it could happen. Why not do it now though? Don't think Lito is an option however. Philli gonna trade him for Fitzgerald plus a pick.
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03-07-2008, 04:01 PM	#34
Boogro Nose Digger Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 341	Re: Dear Mickey Loomis.....Go Get DeAngelo Hall!!!!!! Now that we are mentioning cbs that we'd rather have over Hall...I'll add 2 more to the list....Cromartie and Mathis....Now if you want to go by stats, Samuel had the most ints over the last 2 years than any other cornerback. How can you not put him in the top 5? If you think Hall deserves to be in the top fine, that's fine...It's your opinion and you are definately entitled to it. But to give up a high draft pick for 1 year of service and a demand of a big contract for a player that has sportsmanship issues, no thanks.

03-07-2008, 05:21 PM	#35
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Dear Mickey Loomis.....Go Get DeAngelo Hall!!!!!! Originally Posted by gandhi1007 No....it comes from playing football ....Watch his stats fall off next year . That there disqulifies you. a) stats mean dick in football. b) playing peewe is not "playing football".

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lsutigerfan 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: born And raised in NOLA, now live in Los Angeles Posts: 811	Re: Dear Mickey Loomis.....Go Get DeAngelo Hall!!!!!! Originally Posted by gandhi1007 Okay....as much as I dislike the guy, he's a top 5 CB in the league. You can get him for half the money Asante Samuel got & he's a man to man corner. Hello....this is what we play! We don't have to gamble in the draft or pick up someone's nickel corner from a zone defense in hopes that he can start. You know you'll have a bonafide CB to blanket WR's. I really don't see why we haven't pursued this guy. He's a perfect fit for our defense & as for as top flight corners are concerned....he's relatively a bargain. Do you reallt think that the Atlanta Falcons would even consider trading to there rival the saints. theres a beeter chance os us getting Lito or Trufant

03-07-2008, 08:18 PM	#37
NarwhalHunter 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hattiesburger with Cheese Posts: 146 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Dear Mickey Loomis.....Go Get DeAngelo Hall!!!!!! So he can run a fast 40 time. Show me how Hall's 'top 5 stats' are in comparison to the other guys Tobias listed.

03-07-2008, 09:47 PM	#38
WhoDatQB Boondock Saint Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: F***ing Atlanta Posts: 322	Re: Dear Mickey Loomis.....Go Get DeAngelo Hall!!!!!! Originally Posted by gandhi1007 No....it comes from playing football & knowing the benefits of systems at certain positions. Samuels benefitted from a 3-4 zone defense. The likes of which had one hell of a front seven & a damn good safety. Watch his stats fall off next year. Pac-Man showed signs, but how much did we get to see? Approximately 1 year of Pro Bowl quality play. Tillman & Asomugha are in my top 10, but not top 5. Hall is the real deal....a loud mouth, but still the real deal. Besides that....I'll go on to say that Deion Sanders talked more smack than any other player on the field when he played, but.....I can say that he also backed it up on the field. Hall is of the same mold. I'm not saying he's "Prime Time", but most good CB's talk s**t. =============== OK, now I agree that I do not think samuels is that great. He played in a zone style defense, however the Eagles rarely make personnel mistakes, and the Patriots play some man to man coverages. However there are plenty of CB's I would rather have. 1. Champ Bailey 2. Marcus Trufant 3. Charles Woodson 4. Al Harris 5. Mike McKenzie 6. Antonio Cromartie 7. Terence Newman 8. Nate Clements 9. Walt Harris 10. Nnamdi Asomugha 11. Charles Tillman 12. Asante Samuels While I expect all really good CB's to talk smack, I do not expect them to also lose a game single handedly for a team, as Hall as done on two separate occasions with multiple personal foul calls on one drive.

03-07-2008, 10:52 PM	#39
beauchristopher 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 227	Re: Dear Mickey Loomis.....Go Get DeAngelo Hall!!!!!! I am nor in favor or against anything the Saints choose to do.. But whoever said the Falcons wouldn't trade with the Saints.. I can see how they would. The would have 2 picks in the top 10.. to rebuild their franchise with.. of course they would.. They aren't going to have Hall next season any ways.. They probably wish we would do this trade.. The chance for them to draft Ellis and McFadden.. or they could get Matt Ryan and Ellis.. etc.. shoot yeah they would lol. They have to look long term.. we are much more closer to a championship if the defense improves.