The Truth About Reggie

Donuts32 · 03-17-2008, 11:48 AM

Euph that was pretty harsh. But I have to disagree. He isnt used properly. Payton really isnt using Reggie Bush like Westbrook or Faulk. I think he can carry a team on his back. He had 581 rushing yds in the 07 -08 season which I know isnt alot of yards but I believe if he wasnt injured his yards total would have been higher. Besides when Reggie was playing Payton called more passing plays than running plays.

Euphoria · 03-17-2008, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by Donuts32

Euph that was pretty harsh. But I have to disagree. He isnt used properly. Payton really isnt using Reggie Bush like Westbrook or Faulk. I think he can carry a team on his back. He had 581 rushing yds in the 07 -08 season which I know isnt alot of yards but I believe if he wasnt injured his yards total would have been higher. Besides when Reggie was playing Payton called more passing plays than running plays.

It isn't harsh at all, nor am I bashing the guy. Its honest and factual. USC Reggie had some great plays but he wasn't the guy to carry the team on his back, that would have been white or a QB by the name of Leinhart. And if memory serves me correctly Vince Young was the guy who one a bowl game by taking the game into his own hands. Now before anyone says anything I am not for Vince Young being drafted either.

We got exactly what we drafted. So no problems but what becomes the problem is that people make excuses for why he is the way he is or people who call him a bust. He isn't either of those... he is exactly what he ever was, no more no less. So everyone so expect that.

pranksterjd · 03-17-2008, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by Donuts32

Euph that was pretty harsh. But I have to disagree. He isnt used properly. Payton really isnt using Reggie Bush like Westbrook or Faulk. I think he can carry a team on his back. He had 581 rushing yds in the 07 -08 season which I know isnt alot of yards but I believe if he wasnt injured his yards total would have been higher. Besides when Reggie was playing Payton called more passing plays than running plays.

A red flag with Reggie in '07 wasn't the totals, so much as it was the 3.7 ypc. That is really not good ( at all ), and showed that, right now, he's not a guy that can run effectively between the tackles as a feature back.

Reggie Bush seems to be the prototypical guy that needs to get the ball in open space to make the home run plays that he was famous for in college. Pitches, screens, etc. are the key to this kid. Once he learns a bit more, maybe he can play a more featured role, but right now I wouldn't be confident in him without a "thunder" back to his "lightning".

bobad · 03-17-2008, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by pranksterjd

A red flag with Reggie in '07 wasn't the totals, so much as it was the 3.7 ypc. ...I wouldn't be confident in him without a "thunder" back to his "lightning".

Agreed.

I have no problems at all with Reggie except for his salary. No way we should be paying that much for a utility back. No other team ever has. In fact, utility backs are usually pretty low on the pay scale. We can still get some good seasons out of Reggie, but I doubt we will ever get our money's worth out of him.

saintsfan1976 · 03-17-2008, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by bobad

Agreed.

I have no problems at all with Reggie except for his salary. No way we should be paying that much for a utility back. No other team ever has. In fact, utility backs are usually pretty low on the pay scale. We can still get some good seasons out of Reggie, but I doubt we will ever get our money's worth out of him.

...and no other team was willing to trade up to our #2 to get him because of that very reason.

Now the flip side of the coin is that we do have one of the most "gifted" and "talented" RB/WR... slot/scat..utility... "whatever he's been asked to do" players that's out there. His value is still yet to be determined and we're only going into his third year.

WVSaint · 03-17-2008, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by bobad

I doubt we will ever get our money's worth out of him.

The Saints are still in New Orleans and I dont hear much talk of us leaving these days, hes a big reason why. If the Saints dont leave the city Id say we got our moneys worth.

foreverfan · 03-17-2008, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by WVSaint

The Saints are still in New Orleans and I dont hear much talk of us leaving these days, hes a big reason why. If the Saints dont leave the city Id say we got our moneys worth.

Al Bundy with the post of the day!!!

Bush will can gain 1800 all purpose yards in a season and he will still be considered a bust by the media.

Imagine that.

foreverfan · 03-17-2008, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by bobad

Agreed.

I have no problems at all with Reggie except for his salary. No way we should be paying that much for a utility back. No other team ever has. In fact, utility backs are usually pretty low on the pay scale. We can still get some good seasons out of Reggie, but I doubt we will ever get our money's worth out of him.

Why this statement is so wrong.
Reggie is so much more than a 3rd down utility back. That's insane to even say such a thing. He has proven he can be an 1500-1800 all purpose yard guy. He can get 600 running, 800 receiving and more returning kicks. Reggie problem is hype. He not the second coming... yet.

From the Saints Site.
Bush lived up to his draft billing with a memorable rookie season that was nothing short of sensational. The multitalented running back earned All-Rookie accolades after posting 1,523 total yards – 729 receiving, 565 rushing and 216 in punt returns – and scoring nine touchdowns.

Are we asking Reggie to do too much?
He's been asked to play RB, WR, HB, PR, KR and waterboy. He has a lot of hype to live up to. He was pressing too hard and trying to carry the whole team on his shoulders. He tried to take his game to the NFL instead of letting the NFL come to Reggie Bush.

Don't underestimating his value to the team.
Just by being on the field, he creates problems for the defense by exposing zones and forcing coverages, keeping defenses honest and as GREAT safety valve for Brees. Reggie Bush is maturing. The kid has amazing talent and it's just a matter of time before he hits his stride. Last year was the typical 2nd year blues. Most players take 3 years. He has just scratched the surface of his amazing talent. If you can't see that, you are not looking or blind. Besides, his true value cannot be measured in yards per game, but what he brings to the entire offense and game plan.

While he hasn't lived up to his superstar status, he has played at a very high level and you can't challenge his heart.

Were you expecting the next coming of JC?
What a difference a year makes. I learned to walk and talk in just one year.

03-17-2008, 11:48 AM	#1
Donuts32 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Orleans,La Posts: 306	Re: The Truth About Reggie Euph that was pretty harsh. But I have to disagree. He isnt used properly. Payton really isnt using Reggie Bush like Westbrook or Faulk. I think he can carry a team on his back. He had 581 rushing yds in the 07 -08 season which I know isnt alot of yards but I believe if he wasnt injured his yards total would have been higher. Besides when Reggie was playing Payton called more passing plays than running plays.

03-17-2008, 01:46 PM	#2
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: The Truth About Reggie Originally Posted by Donuts32 Euph that was pretty harsh. But I have to disagree. He isnt used properly. Payton really isnt using Reggie Bush like Westbrook or Faulk. I think he can carry a team on his back. He had 581 rushing yds in the 07 -08 season which I know isnt alot of yards but I believe if he wasnt injured his yards total would have been higher. Besides when Reggie was playing Payton called more passing plays than running plays. It isn't harsh at all, nor am I bashing the guy. Its honest and factual. USC Reggie had some great plays but he wasn't the guy to carry the team on his back, that would have been white or a QB by the name of Leinhart. And if memory serves me correctly Vince Young was the guy who one a bowl game by taking the game into his own hands. Now before anyone says anything I am not for Vince Young being drafted either. We got exactly what we drafted. So no problems but what becomes the problem is that people make excuses for why he is the way he is or people who call him a bust. He isn't either of those... he is exactly what he ever was, no more no less. So everyone so expect that.
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03-17-2008, 01:53 PM	#3
pranksterjd Rookie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3	Re: The Truth About Reggie Originally Posted by Donuts32 Euph that was pretty harsh. But I have to disagree. He isnt used properly. Payton really isnt using Reggie Bush like Westbrook or Faulk. I think he can carry a team on his back. He had 581 rushing yds in the 07 -08 season which I know isnt alot of yards but I believe if he wasnt injured his yards total would have been higher. Besides when Reggie was playing Payton called more passing plays than running plays. A red flag with Reggie in '07 wasn't the totals, so much as it was the 3.7 ypc. That is really not good ( at all ), and showed that, right now, he's not a guy that can run effectively between the tackles as a feature back. Reggie Bush seems to be the prototypical guy that needs to get the ball in open space to make the home run plays that he was famous for in college. Pitches, screens, etc. are the key to this kid. Once he learns a bit more, maybe he can play a more featured role, but right now I wouldn't be confident in him without a "thunder" back to his "lightning".
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03-17-2008, 02:36 PM	#4
bobad 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 247	Re: The Truth About Reggie Originally Posted by pranksterjd A red flag with Reggie in '07 wasn't the totals, so much as it was the 3.7 ypc. ...I wouldn't be confident in him without a "thunder" back to his "lightning". Agreed. I have no problems at all with Reggie except for his salary. No way we should be paying that much for a utility back. No other team ever has. In fact, utility backs are usually pretty low on the pay scale. We can still get some good seasons out of Reggie, but I doubt we will ever get our money's worth out of him.
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03-17-2008, 03:54 PM	#5
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,050 Blog Entries: 3	Re: The Truth About Reggie Originally Posted by bobad Agreed. I have no problems at all with Reggie except for his salary. No way we should be paying that much for a utility back. No other team ever has. In fact, utility backs are usually pretty low on the pay scale. We can still get some good seasons out of Reggie, but I doubt we will ever get our money's worth out of him. ...and no other team was willing to trade up to our #2 to get him because of that very reason. Now the flip side of the coin is that we do have one of the most "gifted" and "talented" RB/WR... slot/scat..utility... "whatever he's been asked to do" players that's out there. His value is still yet to be determined and we're only going into his third year.

03-17-2008, 04:27 PM	#6
WVSaint 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: West Virginia Posts: 807	Re: The Truth About Reggie Originally Posted by bobad I doubt we will ever get our money's worth out of him. The Saints are still in New Orleans and I dont hear much talk of us leaving these days, hes a big reason why. If the Saints dont leave the city Id say we got our moneys worth.

03-17-2008, 05:50 PM	#7
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: The Truth About Reggie Originally Posted by WVSaint The Saints are still in New Orleans and I dont hear much talk of us leaving these days, hes a big reason why. If the Saints dont leave the city Id say we got our moneys worth. Al Bundy with the post of the day!!! Bush will can gain 1800 all purpose yards in a season and he will still be considered a bust by the media. Imagine that.

03-17-2008, 10:40 PM	#8
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: The Truth About Reggie Originally Posted by bobad Agreed. I have no problems at all with Reggie except for his salary. No way we should be paying that much for a utility back. No other team ever has. In fact, utility backs are usually pretty low on the pay scale. We can still get some good seasons out of Reggie, but I doubt we will ever get our money's worth out of him. Why this statement is so wrong. Reggie is so much more than a 3rd down utility back. That's insane to even say such a thing. He has proven he can be an 1500-1800 all purpose yard guy. He can get 600 running, 800 receiving and more returning kicks. Reggie problem is hype. He not the second coming... yet. From the Saints Site. Bush lived up to his draft billing with a memorable rookie season that was nothing short of sensational. The multitalented running back earned All-Rookie accolades after posting 1,523 total yards – 729 receiving, 565 rushing and 216 in punt returns – and scoring nine touchdowns. Are we asking Reggie to do too much? He's been asked to play RB, WR, HB, PR, KR and waterboy. He has a lot of hype to live up to. He was pressing too hard and trying to carry the whole team on his shoulders. He tried to take his game to the NFL instead of letting the NFL come to Reggie Bush. Don't underestimating his value to the team. Just by being on the field, he creates problems for the defense by exposing zones and forcing coverages, keeping defenses honest and as GREAT safety valve for Brees. Reggie Bush is maturing. The kid has amazing talent and it's just a matter of time before he hits his stride. Last year was the typical 2nd year blues. Most players take 3 years. He has just scratched the surface of his amazing talent. If you can't see that, you are not looking or blind. Besides, his true value cannot be measured in yards per game, but what he brings to the entire offense and game plan. While he hasn't lived up to his superstar status, he has played at a very high level and you can't challenge his heart. Were you expecting the next coming of JC? What a difference a year makes. I learned to walk and talk in just one year.
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