Is Mayo a possibility?

Euphoria · 03-31-2008, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by papz

I'm definitely in the minority on Ginn being a reach... and I don't have a problem with that either. I saw him as the most explosive playmaker in that draft... he's still got a ways to go but it's still very early in his young career.

My point was I have no problem "reaching"... if a team likes a certain player a lot, get him and screw what the media thinks. It's not always going to work out but with any draft pick, nothing is guaranteed.

I do agree... if that is your guy then who cares, go get him.

beauchristopher · 04-01-2008, 12:53 AM

He's still second round material. NO WAY do the Saints think of him in the first round.. so HOLD THE MAYO.

pakowitz · 04-01-2008, 01:11 AM

Originally Posted by beauchristopher

He's still second round material. NO WAY do the Saints think of him in the first round.. so HOLD THE MAYO.

i think he goes in the first due to the fact that this is a weak LB class... teams have needs and alot of them will reach on a player to fill their needs..

i think he goes in the 20-25 range..

hagan714 · 04-01-2008, 07:36 AM

Keith Rivers, USC, 6022, 241, 4.60
Rivers has impressed scouts at the Senior Bowl because of his playing speed and the mean streak he has displayed. I don't always see the hype about Rivers but he is a really solid linebacker. Rivers will likely be the first linebacker taken, but he is not an elite athletic talent like that of A.J. Hawk, Lawrence Timmons, or Patrick Willis. He is a consistent player and will contribute immediately.

Jerod Mayo, Tennessee, 6013, 242, 4.54
He may do better with a return to WLB in a 4-3 scheme where he can utilize his athleticism and ability to read and react. Mayo also has some injury history, having missed the final 4 games of 2005 with a knee injury and then playing through a knee injury at the end of 2006.

there you go. 1 inch and .06 in the 40. now the more I watch this guy the better I like him

Quentin Groves, Auburn, 6030, 254, 4.57, (DE/OLB)
Many scouts project Groves as a linebacker in the NFL, with him likely better suited for a 3-4 scheme. He is a truly instinctive player, showing a great understanding of the game from both positions. As an OLB, he is able to rush the QB, stop the run, and play in space to disrupt the passing game underneath. He has the speed and quickness to cover most backs and tight ends with a surprisingly smooth backpedal and loose hips.

He could become a 4-3 DE in much the same mold as Osi Umenyiora or a 3-4 OLB more like DeMarcus Ware.

Trade back to middle of the first and reach on this kid. I would be very happy. We could take the pick in 2009 to make up for the lost pick in the Vilma trade

beauchristopher · 04-03-2008, 09:25 AM

Well I have to retract my previous comment. I see Mayo has really been climbing most experts mock drafts.. It does help his stock the class is so weak, so he may very well go in the middle first round to late.

Champ Kind · 04-03-2008, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Keith Rivers, USC, 6022, 241, 4.60
Rivers has impressed scouts at the Senior Bowl because of his playing speed and the mean streak he has displayed. I don't always see the hype about Rivers but he is a really solid linebacker. Rivers will likely be the first linebacker taken, but he is not an elite athletic talent like that of A.J. Hawk, Lawrence Timmons, or Patrick Willis. He is a consistent player and will contribute immediately.

Jerod Mayo, Tennessee, 6013, 242, 4.54
He may do better with a return to WLB in a 4-3 scheme where he can utilize his athleticism and ability to read and react. Mayo also has some injury history, having missed the final 4 games of 2005 with a knee injury and then playing through a knee injury at the end of 2006.

there you go. 1 inch and .06 in the 40. now the more I watch this guy the better I like him

Quentin Groves, Auburn, 6030, 254, 4.57, (DE/OLB)
Many scouts project Groves as a linebacker in the NFL, with him likely better suited for a 3-4 scheme. He is a truly instinctive player, showing a great understanding of the game from both positions. As an OLB, he is able to rush the QB, stop the run, and play in space to disrupt the passing game underneath. He has the speed and quickness to cover most backs and tight ends with a surprisingly smooth backpedal and loose hips.

He could become a 4-3 DE in much the same mold as Osi Umenyiora or a 3-4 OLB more like DeMarcus Ware.

Trade back to middle of the first and reach on this kid. I would be very happy. We could take the pick in 2009 to make up for the lost pick in the Vilma trade

I will keep preaching Mayo if I can.
Trade back and get Mayo in my opinion.(If Dorsey or Ellis aren't there)
Mayo had over 200 tackles in last two years.
He's played both MLB and WLB.
Measurables are about the same for Mayo and Rivers, so look at stats and there is no comparison.

Oh and Do we really have to put "if Dorsey or Ellis aren't there" anymore.
It's pretty much a given.

03-31-2008, 07:18 PM	#11
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Is Mayo a possibility? Originally Posted by papz I'm definitely in the minority on Ginn being a reach... and I don't have a problem with that either. I saw him as the most explosive playmaker in that draft... he's still got a ways to go but it's still very early in his young career. My point was I have no problem "reaching"... if a team likes a certain player a lot, get him and screw what the media thinks. It's not always going to work out but with any draft pick, nothing is guaranteed. I do agree... if that is your guy then who cares, go get him.

04-01-2008, 12:53 AM	#12
beauchristopher 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 227	Re: Is Mayo a possibility? He's still second round material. NO WAY do the Saints think of him in the first round.. so HOLD THE MAYO.

04-01-2008, 01:11 AM	#13
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Re: Is Mayo a possibility? Originally Posted by beauchristopher He's still second round material. NO WAY do the Saints think of him in the first round.. so HOLD THE MAYO. i think he goes in the first due to the fact that this is a weak LB class... teams have needs and alot of them will reach on a player to fill their needs.. i think he goes in the 20-25 range..

04-01-2008, 07:36 AM	#14
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Is Mayo a possibility? Keith Rivers, USC, 6022, 241, 4.60 Rivers has impressed scouts at the Senior Bowl because of his playing speed and the mean streak he has displayed. I don't always see the hype about Rivers but he is a really solid linebacker. Rivers will likely be the first linebacker taken, but he is not an elite athletic talent like that of A.J. Hawk, Lawrence Timmons, or Patrick Willis. He is a consistent player and will contribute immediately. Jerod Mayo, Tennessee, 6013, 242, 4.54 He may do better with a return to WLB in a 4-3 scheme where he can utilize his athleticism and ability to read and react. Mayo also has some injury history, having missed the final 4 games of 2005 with a knee injury and then playing through a knee injury at the end of 2006. there you go. 1 inch and .06 in the 40. now the more I watch this guy the better I like him Quentin Groves, Auburn, 6030, 254, 4.57, (DE/OLB) Many scouts project Groves as a linebacker in the NFL, with him likely better suited for a 3-4 scheme. He is a truly instinctive player, showing a great understanding of the game from both positions. As an OLB, he is able to rush the QB, stop the run, and play in space to disrupt the passing game underneath. He has the speed and quickness to cover most backs and tight ends with a surprisingly smooth backpedal and loose hips. He could become a 4-3 DE in much the same mold as Osi Umenyiora or a 3-4 OLB more like DeMarcus Ware. Trade back to middle of the first and reach on this kid. I would be very happy. We could take the pick in 2009 to make up for the lost pick in the Vilma trade
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04-03-2008, 09:25 AM	#15
beauchristopher 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 227	Re: Is Mayo a possibility? Well I have to retract my previous comment. I see Mayo has really been climbing most experts mock drafts.. It does help his stock the class is so weak, so he may very well go in the middle first round to late.

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04-03-2008, 07:53 PM	#16
Champ Kind Nachooooooooooo Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Shreveport Posts: 71	Re: Is Mayo a possibility? Originally Posted by hagan714 Keith Rivers, USC, 6022, 241, 4.60 Rivers has impressed scouts at the Senior Bowl because of his playing speed and the mean streak he has displayed. I don't always see the hype about Rivers but he is a really solid linebacker. Rivers will likely be the first linebacker taken, but he is not an elite athletic talent like that of A.J. Hawk, Lawrence Timmons, or Patrick Willis. He is a consistent player and will contribute immediately. Jerod Mayo, Tennessee, 6013, 242, 4.54 He may do better with a return to WLB in a 4-3 scheme where he can utilize his athleticism and ability to read and react. Mayo also has some injury history, having missed the final 4 games of 2005 with a knee injury and then playing through a knee injury at the end of 2006. there you go. 1 inch and .06 in the 40. now the more I watch this guy the better I like him Quentin Groves, Auburn, 6030, 254, 4.57, (DE/OLB) Many scouts project Groves as a linebacker in the NFL, with him likely better suited for a 3-4 scheme. He is a truly instinctive player, showing a great understanding of the game from both positions. As an OLB, he is able to rush the QB, stop the run, and play in space to disrupt the passing game underneath. He has the speed and quickness to cover most backs and tight ends with a surprisingly smooth backpedal and loose hips. He could become a 4-3 DE in much the same mold as Osi Umenyiora or a 3-4 OLB more like DeMarcus Ware. Trade back to middle of the first and reach on this kid. I would be very happy. We could take the pick in 2009 to make up for the lost pick in the Vilma trade I will keep preaching Mayo if I can. Trade back and get Mayo in my opinion.(If Dorsey or Ellis aren't there) Mayo had over 200 tackles in last two years. He's played both MLB and WLB. Measurables are about the same for Mayo and Rivers, so look at stats and there is no comparison. Oh and Do we really have to put "if Dorsey or Ellis aren't there" anymore. It's pretty much a given.