Bush wants greater success

pakowitz · 04-14-2008, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Ahhh yes and those words are still very true today. Although I think Jersay sales maybe tailing off, I don't know.

top 10 jersey sales for 2006

1. RB LaDainian Tomlinson (Chargers)

2. RB Reggie Bush (Saints)

3. Brian Urlacher (Bears)

4. Peyton Manning (Colts)

5. Brett Favre (Packers)

6. Tom Brady (Patriots)

7. Troy Polamalu (Steelers)

8. Vince Young (Titans)

9. Adrian Peterson (Vikings)

10. Randy Moss (Patriots)

EXTRA POINTS: Brady's sales are up 57 percent this season, according to Reebok. ... Favre's jersey is selling at a 96 percent increase from 2006.

Euphoria · 04-14-2008, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by pakowitz

top 10 jersey sales for 2007

1. RB LaDainian Tomlinson (Chargers)

2. RB Reggie Bush (Saints)

3. Brian Urlacher (Bears)

4. Peyton Manning (Colts)

5. Brett Favre (Packers)

6. Tom Brady (Patriots)

7. Troy Polamalu (Steelers)

8. Vince Young (Titans)

9. Adrian Peterson (Vikings)

10. Randy Moss (Patriots)

EXTRA POINTS: Brady's sales are up 57 percent this season, according to Reebok. ... Favre's jersey is selling at a 96 percent increase from 2006.

Wow slipped from 1 to 2. But do you have Bush's sales numbers for each year he's been a Saint?

SaintFanInATLHELL · 04-14-2008, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

I don't think anyone calls him a bust.

Both fans and the media ride the guy.

Hell I don't think he is but he isn't the savior of this francise either. I think people had all these great expectations of him but I think he is right where he is suppose to be.

The hype machine had dude pegged as a cross between LT and Hester. Bush is supposed to be rushing for 1500 yards, scoring TDs every time he touches the ball, breaking league TD and total yards records, and striking fear into kickoff and punt teams all through the league.

The fact of the matter is that our offense is too prolific and too frenetic for anyone to consistently get that kind of productions. Presuming that Bush averages 15 rushing touches per game, dude would have to have a 6.25 YPC average to get 1500 yards over the course of a season.

From a quick look around profootballreference.com only one back in NFL history gained those kind of yards with that high a YPC over the course of a season: Jim Brown 1963 1863 yards on 291 carries for 6.4 YPC.

It just seems that everyone wants Bush to be LT, or AP. But that's not who he is, or probably is ever going to be.

From a rushing standpoint I'd be satisfied if Bush, and the J-line, can learn to simply rush effectively when needed. If dude can get 4 to 4.5 YPC of productive yards when he rushes, I really wouldn't care if he only rushes for 70-75 YPG. That's really all the Saints need from him to be effective.

Just my half a nickel,

SFIAH

SapperSaint · 04-14-2008, 11:14 AM

I have heard guys complain about getting a guy that is 27, 28, 29. That's very young in age.

I don't want anyone to say I am comparing Reggie to Ryan Leaf....but Leaf had 3 years to prove he couldn't be an NFL QB. I don't see why it is such a strech to think that "Hey, maybe Reggie just isn't cut out to be an NFL running back." Thousands of guys who were great in high school couldn't cut it in college. Just like thousands of guys who were great in college couldn't cut it in the NFL.

I don't know how else to say it. I TRULY WANT REGGIE TO BE A HOF'er!!! However, if he doesn't produce this year, how much longer will we say, "Awe, he's just 24, 25, 26, 27..... before we get someone who will fill Deuces' shoes?

It's not just Reggie I am referring to.. it's all of them. We have a very good team, with holes here and there. I feel this core group of people can win a SuperBowl. They just need the people to perform that are suppose to perform.

That's all I'm saying. I just want what is best for the team.

papz · 04-14-2008, 01:12 PM

I hate it when football players imitate to be football players... it's a sad sight. I don't know why this joker is still on our team... he's nothing more than a role player. We should seriously consider upgrading.

Euphoria · 04-14-2008, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by papz

I hate it when football players imitate to be football players... it's a sad sight. I don't know why this joker is still on our team... he's nothing more than a role player. We should seriously consider upgrading.

LMAO. Now come on there isn't anything wrong with roleplayers, you need them but I just think people get mis-guided in the expectations of him being the guy. He needs certain players to come in and play roles around him. He's actually filling the same role he had at USC. He wasn't main RB there nor WR. He played a role in a offense's game plan.
I think it was more the team around him that won a lot of those games and he just made the highlights. LOL.
I don't have a problem with Bush on the team but to but that much burden on him is just unjustified because he never was that type of player.

Euphoria · 04-14-2008, 01:48 PM

IMO he should shut the hell up and win a SB. Wanting MVP just proves he is out for his own good.

SapperSaint · 04-14-2008, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

IMO he should shut the hell up and win a SB. Wanting MVP just proves he is out for his own good.

B.I.N.G.O.

QBREES9 · 04-14-2008, 03:28 PM

Maybe just maybe if Reggie lights its up this year his jersey sale will go up .........LOL.

This is your year Reggie LIGHT IT UP.

04-14-2008, 01:22 PM	#1
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Re: Bush wants greater success Originally Posted by Euphoria Ahhh yes and those words are still very true today. Although I think Jersay sales maybe tailing off, I don't know. top 10 jersey sales for 2006 1. RB LaDainian Tomlinson (Chargers) 2. RB Reggie Bush (Saints) 3. Brian Urlacher (Bears) 4. Peyton Manning (Colts) 5. Brett Favre (Packers) 6. Tom Brady (Patriots) 7. Troy Polamalu (Steelers) 8. Vince Young (Titans) 9. Adrian Peterson (Vikings) 10. Randy Moss (Patriots) EXTRA POINTS: Brady's sales are up 57 percent this season, according to Reebok. ... Favre's jersey is selling at a 96 percent increase from 2006.
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04-14-2008, 01:37 PM	#2
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Bush wants greater success Originally Posted by pakowitz top 10 jersey sales for 2007 1. RB LaDainian Tomlinson (Chargers) 2. RB Reggie Bush (Saints) 3. Brian Urlacher (Bears) 4. Peyton Manning (Colts) 5. Brett Favre (Packers) 6. Tom Brady (Patriots) 7. Troy Polamalu (Steelers) 8. Vince Young (Titans) 9. Adrian Peterson (Vikings) 10. Randy Moss (Patriots) EXTRA POINTS: Brady's sales are up 57 percent this season, according to Reebok. ... Favre's jersey is selling at a 96 percent increase from 2006. Wow slipped from 1 to 2. But do you have Bush's sales numbers for each year he's been a Saint?

04-14-2008, 03:41 PM	#3
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,787	Re: Bush wants greater success Originally Posted by Euphoria I don't think anyone calls him a bust. Both fans and the media ride the guy. Hell I don't think he is but he isn't the savior of this francise either. I think people had all these great expectations of him but I think he is right where he is suppose to be. The hype machine had dude pegged as a cross between LT and Hester. Bush is supposed to be rushing for 1500 yards, scoring TDs every time he touches the ball, breaking league TD and total yards records, and striking fear into kickoff and punt teams all through the league. The fact of the matter is that our offense is too prolific and too frenetic for anyone to consistently get that kind of productions. Presuming that Bush averages 15 rushing touches per game, dude would have to have a 6.25 YPC average to get 1500 yards over the course of a season. From a quick look around profootballreference.com only one back in NFL history gained those kind of yards with that high a YPC over the course of a season: Jim Brown 1963 1863 yards on 291 carries for 6.4 YPC. It just seems that everyone wants Bush to be LT, or AP. But that's not who he is, or probably is ever going to be. From a rushing standpoint I'd be satisfied if Bush, and the J-line, can learn to simply rush effectively when needed. If dude can get 4 to 4.5 YPC of productive yards when he rushes, I really wouldn't care if he only rushes for 70-75 YPG. That's really all the Saints need from him to be effective. Just my half a nickel, SFIAH
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04-14-2008, 11:14 AM	#4
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Bush wants greater success I have heard guys complain about getting a guy that is 27, 28, 29. That's very young in age. I don't want anyone to say I am comparing Reggie to Ryan Leaf....but Leaf had 3 years to prove he couldn't be an NFL QB. I don't see why it is such a strech to think that "Hey, maybe Reggie just isn't cut out to be an NFL running back." Thousands of guys who were great in high school couldn't cut it in college. Just like thousands of guys who were great in college couldn't cut it in the NFL. I don't know how else to say it. I TRULY WANT REGGIE TO BE A HOF'er!!! However, if he doesn't produce this year, how much longer will we say, "Awe, he's just 24, 25, 26, 27..... before we get someone who will fill Deuces' shoes? It's not just Reggie I am referring to.. it's all of them. We have a very good team, with holes here and there. I feel this core group of people can win a SuperBowl. They just need the people to perform that are suppose to perform. That's all I'm saying. I just want what is best for the team.
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04-14-2008, 01:12 PM	#5
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,798	Re: Bush wants greater success I hate it when football players imitate to be football players... it's a sad sight. I don't know why this joker is still on our team... he's nothing more than a role player. We should seriously consider upgrading.

04-14-2008, 01:35 PM	#6
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Bush wants greater success Originally Posted by papz I hate it when football players imitate to be football players... it's a sad sight. I don't know why this joker is still on our team... he's nothing more than a role player. We should seriously consider upgrading. LMAO. Now come on there isn't anything wrong with roleplayers, you need them but I just think people get mis-guided in the expectations of him being the guy. He needs certain players to come in and play roles around him. He's actually filling the same role he had at USC. He wasn't main RB there nor WR. He played a role in a offense's game plan. I think it was more the team around him that won a lot of those games and he just made the highlights. LOL. I don't have a problem with Bush on the team but to but that much burden on him is just unjustified because he never was that type of player.
	E U P H O R I A

04-14-2008, 01:48 PM	#7
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Bush wants greater success IMO he should shut the hell up and win a SB. Wanting MVP just proves he is out for his own good.

04-14-2008, 02:27 PM	#8
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Bush wants greater success Originally Posted by Euphoria IMO he should shut the hell up and win a SB. Wanting MVP just proves he is out for his own good. B.I.N.G.O.

04-14-2008, 03:28 PM	#9
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	Re: Bush wants greater success Maybe just maybe if Reggie lights its up this year his jersey sale will go up .........LOL. This is your year Reggie LIGHT IT UP.