Talib instead of Cromartie?

CantonLegend · 04-20-2008, 12:15 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

i was on kipers side at first....talib impressed me when i watched clips of him but after hearing so much hype about DRC and knowing that Mckelvin is a better prospect according to just about every source i've heard from...we wont draft talib and most likely wont even draft a corner.

in the first round i mean

hagan714 · 04-20-2008, 07:30 AM

none at ten. Trade back then ok

SaintFanInATLHELL · 04-20-2008, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

i was on kipers side at first....talib impressed me when i watched clips of him but after hearing so much hype about DRC and knowing that Mckelvin is a better prospect according to just about every source i've heard from...we wont draft talib and most likely wont even draft a corner.

...and that would be a wonderful thing.

The Saints need to continue to upgrade the front 7 of the defense. DT first. Will LB second. There's no need to talk about a 3rd option for the first round.

Ideal: Dorsey
Excellent: Ellis
Acceptable: Rivers

Anything else is not an option for the Saints in their current state.

SFIAH

papz · 04-20-2008, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

...and that would be a wonderful thing.

The Saints need to continue to upgrade the front 7 of the defense. DT first. Will LB second. There's no need to talk about a 3rd option for the first round.

Ideal: Dorsey
Excellent: Ellis
Acceptable: Rivers

Anything else is not an option for the Saints in their current state.

SFIAH

What's with the preconceived notion that no other player will work out or make an immediate impact? It's like if we can't get any of those 3 players, there's not point in making a first round pick. Makes no sense. Ideally we'd want Dorsey or Ellis, but if we can't get either... the sky won't be falling. Players such as Connor or Mayo in my opinion should pay immediate dividends to whichever team select them... that's just to name a few.

pakowitz · 04-20-2008, 12:22 PM

its not that they wouldnt have an impact but i think that a DT will have more of an impact on our Defense than any other position... while i think mayo and conner will both be better than shanle eventually, as a rookie i dont think they would be that much of an upgrade at that position this year... none of the LBs this year have the ability of a Patrick Willis and i dont see his type of production from any of them..

hagan714 · 04-21-2008, 06:35 AM

Originally Posted by pakowitz

its not that they wouldnt have an impact but i think that a DT will have more of an impact on our Defense than any other position... while i think mayo and conner will both be better than shanle eventually, as a rookie i dont think they would be that much of an upgrade at that position this year... none of the LBs this year have the ability of a Patrick Willis and i dont see his type of production from any of them..

We have a winner. I put him in the same class as Chad Greenway who went 17th in the 2007 draft.

papz · 04-21-2008, 08:17 AM

If we're going to sit here and compare all linebackers to Patrick Willis every year, every linebacker coming out any year probably wouldn't be able to match his type of production. Willis is a rare specimen... let's not forget that.

04-20-2008, 12:15 AM	#11
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Talib instead of Cromartie? Originally Posted by CantonLegend i was on kipers side at first....talib impressed me when i watched clips of him but after hearing so much hype about DRC and knowing that Mckelvin is a better prospect according to just about every source i've heard from...we wont draft talib and most likely wont even draft a corner. in the first round i mean

04-20-2008, 07:30 AM	#12
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Talib instead of Cromartie? none at ten. Trade back then ok

04-20-2008, 11:14 AM	#13
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Talib instead of Cromartie? Originally Posted by CantonLegend i was on kipers side at first....talib impressed me when i watched clips of him but after hearing so much hype about DRC and knowing that Mckelvin is a better prospect according to just about every source i've heard from...we wont draft talib and most likely wont even draft a corner. ...and that would be a wonderful thing. The Saints need to continue to upgrade the front 7 of the defense. DT first. Will LB second. There's no need to talk about a 3rd option for the first round. Ideal: Dorsey Excellent: Ellis Acceptable: Rivers Anything else is not an option for the Saints in their current state. SFIAH

04-20-2008, 12:09 PM	#14
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: Talib instead of Cromartie? Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL ...and that would be a wonderful thing. The Saints need to continue to upgrade the front 7 of the defense. DT first. Will LB second. There's no need to talk about a 3rd option for the first round. Ideal: Dorsey Excellent: Ellis Acceptable: Rivers Anything else is not an option for the Saints in their current state. SFIAH What's with the preconceived notion that no other player will work out or make an immediate impact? It's like if we can't get any of those 3 players, there's not point in making a first round pick. Makes no sense. Ideally we'd want Dorsey or Ellis, but if we can't get either... the sky won't be falling. Players such as Connor or Mayo in my opinion should pay immediate dividends to whichever team select them... that's just to name a few.

04-20-2008, 12:22 PM	#15
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Re: Talib instead of Cromartie? its not that they wouldnt have an impact but i think that a DT will have more of an impact on our Defense than any other position... while i think mayo and conner will both be better than shanle eventually, as a rookie i dont think they would be that much of an upgrade at that position this year... none of the LBs this year have the ability of a Patrick Willis and i dont see his type of production from any of them..

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04-21-2008, 06:35 AM	#16
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Talib instead of Cromartie? Originally Posted by pakowitz its not that they wouldnt have an impact but i think that a DT will have more of an impact on our Defense than any other position... while i think mayo and conner will both be better than shanle eventually, as a rookie i dont think they would be that much of an upgrade at that position this year... none of the LBs this year have the ability of a Patrick Willis and i dont see his type of production from any of them.. We have a winner. I put him in the same class as Chad Greenway who went 17th in the 2007 draft.

04-21-2008, 08:17 AM	#17
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: Talib instead of Cromartie? If we're going to sit here and compare all linebackers to Patrick Willis every year, every linebacker coming out any year probably wouldn't be able to match his type of production. Willis is a rare specimen... let's not forget that.