Talib instead of Cromartie?

sixstringer311 · 04-18-2008, 06:46 PM

Wonder why it is that Mel Kiper has changed his pick for the Saints first rounder this year? He's steadily been predicting the Saints would pick Cromartie. Now he's got the Saints picking Aqib Talib with the 10th pick. Talib has had substance abuse issues in the past. I seriously don't think the Saints would pick Talib with those issues. What's up? Note: I don't think the Saints will move up to 2.

BRSaintsFan · 04-18-2008, 06:48 PM

I agree that if they stay put, they will not look at Talib even if they think he is worth the pick. Talib is likely dropping down all teams draft boards and could be had towards the end of the 1st round. But I am no Mel Kiper....

hagan714 · 04-18-2008, 06:58 PM

well BR you have better insight than mel right now IMO.
Everyone knows I really like him but every time he is in the paper it is all negative. Missed workouts and the pot smoking issue will all kill him. He has worked his way out of the top 20 by now. But with his skill set and size some team may take the pick on him still. The Saints? I have a hard time believing Sean will look past these recent issues.

papz · 04-18-2008, 07:05 PM

Talib has been Kiper's favorite cornerback since the end of last year. He consistently pumps him up whenever he gets the chance... it's not a surprise he has Talib going to us at 10. If in fact Talib is our pick, all I can say is that I hope he's right. I like the other corners much more than he does.

zachsaints52 · 04-18-2008, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by BRSaintsFan

But I am no Mel Kiper....

Not enough hair gel?

thesaintsfan · 04-19-2008, 12:44 AM

I'm a huge Kiper fan and it hurts to say this but Mel needs to chill out with his man crush on Talib. There's alot to like about Talib but the good is outweighed by the bad. It's funny because Mel is usually not very high on players with character issues. I remember when Lawrence Phillips was coming out everybody had him as the hands down best RB in the draft but Mel refused to put him at the top of his board due to Phillips' past. Mel said that Phillips was a player that couldn't walk the straight and narrow and boy was he right!

WVSaint · 04-19-2008, 04:23 AM

i think the fact that talib returns kicks is part of why hes up there for us. but i agree with hagan, his smoking issue is gonna hurt him.

hagan714 · 04-19-2008, 06:19 AM

Truthfully mel is right about him. He is going to be good "on the field".
I see him as one of the best CB in the draft. But he is also probably the best FS on the board. I know it is a reach to go to FS but I feel pretty good about it. He is the best tweener we have seen in a while.

FireVenturi · 04-19-2008, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Talib has been Kiper's favorite cornerback since the end of last year. He consistently pumps him up whenever he gets the chance... it's not a surprise he has Talib going to us at 10. If in fact Talib is our pick, all I can say is that I hope he's right. I like the other corners much more than he does.

You stole my thunder Papz, every pick Mel will be saying "what is such and such team thinkin, they passed on Talib" I think he may be saying that until the second round.

CantonLegend · 04-20-2008, 12:15 AM

i was on kipers side at first....talib impressed me when i watched clips of him but after hearing so much hype about DRC and knowing that Mckelvin is a better prospect according to just about every source i've heard from...we wont draft talib and most likely wont even draft a corner.

04-18-2008, 06:46 PM	#1
sixstringer311 Rookie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 5	Talib instead of Cromartie? Wonder why it is that Mel Kiper has changed his pick for the Saints first rounder this year? He's steadily been predicting the Saints would pick Cromartie. Now he's got the Saints picking Aqib Talib with the 10th pick. Talib has had substance abuse issues in the past. I seriously don't think the Saints would pick Talib with those issues. What's up? Note: I don't think the Saints will move up to 2.
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04-18-2008, 06:48 PM	#2
BRSaintsFan 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 449	Re: Talib instead of Cromartie? I agree that if they stay put, they will not look at Talib even if they think he is worth the pick. Talib is likely dropping down all teams draft boards and could be had towards the end of the 1st round. But I am no Mel Kiper....

04-18-2008, 06:58 PM	#3
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Talib instead of Cromartie? well BR you have better insight than mel right now IMO. Everyone knows I really like him but every time he is in the paper it is all negative. Missed workouts and the pot smoking issue will all kill him. He has worked his way out of the top 20 by now. But with his skill set and size some team may take the pick on him still. The Saints? I have a hard time believing Sean will look past these recent issues.
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papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,755	Re: Talib instead of Cromartie? Talib has been Kiper's favorite cornerback since the end of last year. He consistently pumps him up whenever he gets the chance... it's not a surprise he has Talib going to us at 10. If in fact Talib is our pick, all I can say is that I hope he's right. I like the other corners much more than he does.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Talib instead of Cromartie? Truthfully mel is right about him. He is going to be good "on the field". I see him as one of the best CB in the draft. But he is also probably the best FS on the board. I know it is a reach to go to FS but I feel pretty good about it. He is the best tweener we have seen in a while.

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FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	Re: Talib instead of Cromartie? Originally Posted by papz Talib has been Kiper's favorite cornerback since the end of last year. He consistently pumps him up whenever he gets the chance... it's not a surprise he has Talib going to us at 10. If in fact Talib is our pick, all I can say is that I hope he's right. I like the other corners much more than he does. You stole my thunder Papz, every pick Mel will be saying "what is such and such team thinkin, they passed on Talib" I think he may be saying that until the second round.

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CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Talib instead of Cromartie? i was on kipers side at first....talib impressed me when i watched clips of him but after hearing so much hype about DRC and knowing that Mckelvin is a better prospect according to just about every source i've heard from...we wont draft talib and most likely wont even draft a corner.