The new orleans saints select....

CantonLegend · 04-23-2008, 08:33 PM

too many trades...i think it sounds good but its not likely that we make one trade in the first round....especially moving down....i see us being aggressive and moving up but moving down will drop the talent level too much us making that move

hagan714 · 04-24-2008, 07:35 AM

The talent pool in round one this year is vastly over rated. Can you read the signs? No diving in the pool. U will hit bottom.

CantonLegend · 04-25-2008, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

The talent pool in round one this year is vastly over rated. Can you read the signs? No diving in the pool. U will hit bottom.

while i think that most of the players in the 1st round are C+ to B grade players.....i think that the corner position has the highest unseen potential....i believe that the corners in the first round wouldnt sway to low from the B grade....it may be worth the risk

Euphoria · 04-25-2008, 03:44 PM

We need another CB like I need another whole in my head.
Its not going to matter who we have at CB if we can't put pressure on the QB. Go ahead draft a CB in this round and we will be watching other teams in the playoffs and not the Saints - again.

You want a CB - we'll talk about it next offseason.

I am glad to see the numbers are starting to turn though from the begining of the offseason to now and the closer we get to the draft. Everyone preaching CB... I see my message is getting through, lol.

CantonLegend · 04-25-2008, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

You want a CB - we'll talk about it next offseason.

We will be talking about it next offseason because it is the biggest glaring weakness is the saints defense......while u preach blitz and rush...we are still not going to....we will not blitz and that takes away from the presence that dorsey or ellis will bring....since we dont blitz it will put too much pressure on our CBs and without a great compliment to Mike we will struggle again!!!

Euphoria · 04-25-2008, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

We will be talking about it next offseason because it is the biggest glaring weakness is the saints defense......while u preach blitz and rush...we are still not going to....we will not blitz and that takes away from the presence that dorsey or ellis will bring....since we dont blitz it will put too much pressure on our CBs and without a great compliment to Mike we will struggle again!!!

Thats when you fire the coaches for being frauds... (NFL COACHES).

I take it you haven't read anything I have been preaching nor the articles that have been showing up recenly. It doesn't matter who you have at CB, any WR will get open against and CB in the NFL if you give him enough time. So its a mute point who you have at CB.

GREAT EXAMPLE - JASON DAVID, has a SB ring for playing CB. Now how do you suppose we got a SB CB and he played so poorly for us? PASS RUSH! Colts had one and we don't. So since we have this guy and he's proved he can play in the big dance lets get him what he had in INDY. We got Gay this offseason (no pun intended).

PRESSURE. Our DT are old and not as fast, can't get upfield quick enough, not as explosive. We need to upgrade that position and it will make the LARGEST IMPACT THIS OFFSEASON landing Dorsey or Ellis.

PRESSURE PRESSURE PRESSURE.

You want to compliment MM get him a pass rush, you'll see really how great of a corner he can be. "Hey MM, now look you'll only have 3 seconds or less to cover your WR so anticipate that so you know when to break on the ball better and make more INT's.

hagan714 · 04-25-2008, 06:59 PM

It is simple take the BPA according to your board and hope it fills an area on need. depth is the key. Once you have it then you can wheel deal.

freakmech · 04-26-2008, 02:55 AM

I will be perfectly happy getting McKelvin at #10. And trade 2nd pick for Shockey or Sheppard though both are going to cost and Im not a big Shockey fan, attitude-wise. He requires to much attention and doesnt deserve that much.

leilung · 04-26-2008, 06:53 AM

I think with all the off season shuffle in D we've made, the team is improved substantially on the Defense.

I still think we could pick up a strong RB in the 1st round and get some O line help as insurance in the later rounds and I feel really, really good about our prospects boys.

But just like Christmas, I'll be happy with whatever we get.

I wish camp would start May 1!!!

QBREES9 · 04-26-2008, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Thats when you fire the coaches for being frauds... (NFL COACHES).

I take it you haven't read anything I have been preaching nor the articles that have been showing up recenly. It doesn't matter who you have at CB, any WR will get open against and CB in the NFL if you give him enough time. So its a mute point who you have at CB.

GREAT EXAMPLE - JASON DAVID, has a SB ring for playing CB. Now how do you suppose we got a SB CB and he played so poorly for us? PASS RUSH! Colts had one and we don't. So since we have this guy and he's proved he can play in the big dance lets get him what he had in INDY. We got Gay this offseason (no pun intended).

PRESSURE. Our DT are old and not as fast, can't get upfield quick enough, not as explosive. We need to upgrade that position and it will make the LARGEST IMPACT THIS OFFSEASON landing Dorsey or Ellis.

PRESSURE PRESSURE PRESSURE.

You want to compliment MM get him a pass rush, you'll see really how great of a corner he can be. "Hey MM, now look you'll only have 3 seconds or less to cover your WR so anticipate that so you know when to break on the ball better and make more INT's.

Euphoria you're right you are right.

View Poll Results: Who would you pick with the Saints first rounder?.
DT....ellis or dorsey	22	55.00%
LB.....rivers	10	25.00%
CB.....DRC or mckelvin	3	7.50%
other.....explain	5	12.50%
Voters: 40. You may not vote on this poll

04-23-2008, 08:33 PM	#11
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: The new orleans saints select.... too many trades...i think it sounds good but its not likely that we make one trade in the first round....especially moving down....i see us being aggressive and moving up but moving down will drop the talent level too much us making that move

04-24-2008, 07:35 AM	#12
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: The new orleans saints select.... The talent pool in round one this year is vastly over rated. Can you read the signs? No diving in the pool. U will hit bottom.

04-25-2008, 10:27 AM	#13
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: The new orleans saints select.... Originally Posted by hagan714 The talent pool in round one this year is vastly over rated. Can you read the signs? No diving in the pool. U will hit bottom. while i think that most of the players in the 1st round are C+ to B grade players.....i think that the corner position has the highest unseen potential....i believe that the corners in the first round wouldnt sway to low from the B grade....it may be worth the risk

04-25-2008, 03:44 PM	#14
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: The new orleans saints select.... We need another CB like I need another whole in my head. Its not going to matter who we have at CB if we can't put pressure on the QB. Go ahead draft a CB in this round and we will be watching other teams in the playoffs and not the Saints - again. You want a CB - we'll talk about it next offseason. I am glad to see the numbers are starting to turn though from the begining of the offseason to now and the closer we get to the draft. Everyone preaching CB... I see my message is getting through, lol.
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04-25-2008, 04:49 PM	#15
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: The new orleans saints select.... Originally Posted by Euphoria You want a CB - we'll talk about it next offseason. We will be talking about it next offseason because it is the biggest glaring weakness is the saints defense......while u preach blitz and rush...we are still not going to....we will not blitz and that takes away from the presence that dorsey or ellis will bring....since we dont blitz it will put too much pressure on our CBs and without a great compliment to Mike we will struggle again!!!

04-25-2008, 05:25 PM	#16
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: The new orleans saints select.... Originally Posted by CantonLegend We will be talking about it next offseason because it is the biggest glaring weakness is the saints defense......while u preach blitz and rush...we are still not going to....we will not blitz and that takes away from the presence that dorsey or ellis will bring....since we dont blitz it will put too much pressure on our CBs and without a great compliment to Mike we will struggle again!!! Thats when you fire the coaches for being frauds... (NFL COACHES). I take it you haven't read anything I have been preaching nor the articles that have been showing up recenly. It doesn't matter who you have at CB, any WR will get open against and CB in the NFL if you give him enough time. So its a mute point who you have at CB. GREAT EXAMPLE - JASON DAVID, has a SB ring for playing CB. Now how do you suppose we got a SB CB and he played so poorly for us? PASS RUSH! Colts had one and we don't. So since we have this guy and he's proved he can play in the big dance lets get him what he had in INDY. We got Gay this offseason (no pun intended). PRESSURE. Our DT are old and not as fast, can't get upfield quick enough, not as explosive. We need to upgrade that position and it will make the LARGEST IMPACT THIS OFFSEASON landing Dorsey or Ellis. PRESSURE PRESSURE PRESSURE. You want to compliment MM get him a pass rush, you'll see really how great of a corner he can be. "Hey MM, now look you'll only have 3 seconds or less to cover your WR so anticipate that so you know when to break on the ball better and make more INT's.
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04-25-2008, 06:59 PM	#17
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: The new orleans saints select.... It is simple take the BPA according to your board and hope it fills an area on need. depth is the key. Once you have it then you can wheel deal.

04-26-2008, 02:55 AM	#18
freakmech Rookie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 13	Re: The new orleans saints select.... I will be perfectly happy getting McKelvin at #10. And trade 2nd pick for Shockey or Sheppard though both are going to cost and Im not a big Shockey fan, attitude-wise. He requires to much attention and doesnt deserve that much.
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04-26-2008, 06:53 AM	#19
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,369	Re: The new orleans saints select.... I think with all the off season shuffle in D we've made, the team is improved substantially on the Defense. I still think we could pick up a strong RB in the 1st round and get some O line help as insurance in the later rounds and I feel really, really good about our prospects boys. But just like Christmas, I'll be happy with whatever we get. I wish camp would start May 1!!!

04-26-2008, 11:21 AM	#20
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: The new orleans saints select.... Originally Posted by Euphoria Thats when you fire the coaches for being frauds... (NFL COACHES). I take it you haven't read anything I have been preaching nor the articles that have been showing up recenly. It doesn't matter who you have at CB, any WR will get open against and CB in the NFL if you give him enough time. So its a mute point who you have at CB. GREAT EXAMPLE - JASON DAVID, has a SB ring for playing CB. Now how do you suppose we got a SB CB and he played so poorly for us? PASS RUSH! Colts had one and we don't. So since we have this guy and he's proved he can play in the big dance lets get him what he had in INDY. We got Gay this offseason (no pun intended). PRESSURE. Our DT are old and not as fast, can't get upfield quick enough, not as explosive. We need to upgrade that position and it will make the LARGEST IMPACT THIS OFFSEASON landing Dorsey or Ellis. PRESSURE PRESSURE PRESSURE. You want to compliment MM get him a pass rush, you'll see really how great of a corner he can be. "Hey MM, now look you'll only have 3 seconds or less to cover your WR so anticipate that so you know when to break on the ball better and make more INT's. Euphoria you're right you are right.