LB

mighty12 · 04-28-2008, 02:43 PM

Are we suppose to sit around and be content with our fragile LB Corps? I for one and very upset that this postion was not addressed in rounds 5 through 7. Or better yet rounds 1-3. I thought that LB was still a pressing need, because we only have ONE LB who is proven healthy. Vilma, I think will be great, but what if something DOES happen. Dan Morgan, I know will get hurt and when he does he will be gone for good. Who else do we have. I hope that this new front four makes our LB corps look WAY better than they really are.

stockman311 · 04-28-2008, 02:49 PM

Im hopeful that Morgan won't get as beat around at weakside as he did in the middle. Also, at some point Mitchell or Evans have to be better options than Shanle. I love Fujita and I think Vilma is just going to be a beast now with Ellis in front of him. I can't stand Simenoux as a backup, but at least he can contribute on ST. I honestly feel pretty good about our LB's at this point.
They can all run and attack the ball now and I think Ellis and a bounceback year from Grant and Smith will really make a difference as well.

BRSaintsFan · 04-28-2008, 02:59 PM

I would have liked to see us grab a LB that specializes in pass rush/blitz scenarios and has some cover skills (Woodyard, Highsmith) either in the late rounds or UDFA. But I think we will be fine with the guys we have. Ellis makes Vilma better and Vilma makes the guys around him better.

winmill1 · 04-28-2008, 03:01 PM

I think we are all right there. Even if all of our new guys get injured we can be no worse than we were last year. But I got a feeling they will be fine.

JKool · 04-28-2008, 03:48 PM

I agree that our LB corps is suspect, not for skill, but for health. I share your concern, but I'm not sure any 5th through 7th rounder would make the team if the group we have is healthy. Drafting someone who will get cut before the season won't help us when these guys get hurt (if they do) during the season.

CantonLegend · 04-28-2008, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by stockman311

Im hopeful that Morgan won't get as beat around at weakside as he did in the middle. Also, at some point Mitchell or Evans have to be better options than Shanle. I love Fujita and I think Vilma is just going to be a beast now with Ellis in front of him. I can't stand Simenoux as a backup, but at least he can contribute on ST. I honestly feel pretty good about our LB's at this point.
They can all run and attack the ball now and I think Ellis and a bounceback year from Grant and Smith will really make a difference as well.

OOOOOOOOOOOO BABY......id be scared to go up against our front seven....aside from maybe the steelers or the chargers....i cant find a better all around group...the NFC is in trouble

TheDeuce · 04-28-2008, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by mighty12

Are we suppose to sit around and be content with our fragile LB Corps? I for one and very upset that this postion was not addressed in rounds 5 through 7. Or better yet rounds 1-3. I thought that LB was still a pressing need, because we only have ONE LB who is proven healthy. Vilma, I think will be great, but what if something DOES happen. Dan Morgan, I know will get hurt and when he does he will be gone for good. Who else do we have. I hope that this new front four makes our LB corps look WAY better than they really are.

I personally think that the front office did a good job of addressing the linebacker position in free agency so that they could use draft picks on other needs. Vilma is a star in a 4-3 system, and we now have a a stud defensive tackle to let him do his job even better. Simoneau was the biggest weakness last year, and he has been phased out thanks to Vilma. Fujita is still an above average starter, and we now have healthy competition at the WLB spot. So yes, we should be content with our LB corps, which in my opinion, is much stronger now.

Euphoria · 04-28-2008, 04:07 PM

Totally agree the offseaon the LB got addressed as best it could and that gave us some room to address the other pressing need and that was DT's.

You have to realize this game is designed to be played up front. Having a stud DT will make everyone better. You won't have as many OL coming out to block LB's ect.

andersen · 04-28-2008, 04:30 PM

Agrree that the DT pick was better than staying at ten and taking the LB. I still think they need that WLB that can be an edge pass rusher. Shanlee/Morgan are not.

JKool · 04-28-2008, 04:39 PM

In a 4-3, usually you expect your edge rush from a DE. It would be nice to have any LB who can pressure the QB - SLB, WLB, or MLB. The 4-3 Blitz packages are just different from the 3-4 ones we used to use in the old days with Swilling and Jackson.

Is it clear to everyone that Vilma will play MLB? I think he'd make a great WLB too. He's got good speed and, as I recall, he isn't too bad in coverage. People are down on Simoneau, but with Ellis in the middle of the DL now, he may be able to play much better. I like the speed and skill of a Vilma (WLB), Simoneau (MLB), and Fugita (SLB) package. Morgan can play on 1st or running downs at MLB. What do you guys think?

04-28-2008, 02:43 PM	#1
mighty12 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 980 Blog Entries: 1	LB Are we suppose to sit around and be content with our fragile LB Corps? I for one and very upset that this postion was not addressed in rounds 5 through 7. Or better yet rounds 1-3. I thought that LB was still a pressing need, because we only have ONE LB who is proven healthy. Vilma, I think will be great, but what if something DOES happen. Dan Morgan, I know will get hurt and when he does he will be gone for good. Who else do we have. I hope that this new front four makes our LB corps look WAY better than they really are.

04-28-2008, 02:49 PM	#2
stockman311 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,137	Re: LB Im hopeful that Morgan won't get as beat around at weakside as he did in the middle. Also, at some point Mitchell or Evans have to be better options than Shanle. I love Fujita and I think Vilma is just going to be a beast now with Ellis in front of him. I can't stand Simenoux as a backup, but at least he can contribute on ST. I honestly feel pretty good about our LB's at this point. They can all run and attack the ball now and I think Ellis and a bounceback year from Grant and Smith will really make a difference as well.

04-28-2008, 02:59 PM	#3
BRSaintsFan 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 449	Re: LB I would have liked to see us grab a LB that specializes in pass rush/blitz scenarios and has some cover skills (Woodyard, Highsmith) either in the late rounds or UDFA. But I think we will be fine with the guys we have. Ellis makes Vilma better and Vilma makes the guys around him better.

04-28-2008, 03:01 PM	#4
winmill1 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 423	Re: LB I think we are all right there. Even if all of our new guys get injured we can be no worse than we were last year. But I got a feeling they will be fine.
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04-28-2008, 03:48 PM	#5
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	Re: LB I agree that our LB corps is suspect, not for skill, but for health. I share your concern, but I'm not sure any 5th through 7th rounder would make the team if the group we have is healthy. Drafting someone who will get cut before the season won't help us when these guys get hurt (if they do) during the season.

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04-28-2008, 03:51 PM	#6
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: LB Originally Posted by stockman311 Im hopeful that Morgan won't get as beat around at weakside as he did in the middle. Also, at some point Mitchell or Evans have to be better options than Shanle. I love Fujita and I think Vilma is just going to be a beast now with Ellis in front of him. I can't stand Simenoux as a backup, but at least he can contribute on ST. I honestly feel pretty good about our LB's at this point. They can all run and attack the ball now and I think Ellis and a bounceback year from Grant and Smith will really make a difference as well. OOOOOOOOOOOO BABY......id be scared to go up against our front seven....aside from maybe the steelers or the chargers....i cant find a better all around group...the NFC is in trouble

04-28-2008, 03:55 PM	#7
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Re: LB Originally Posted by mighty12 Are we suppose to sit around and be content with our fragile LB Corps? I for one and very upset that this postion was not addressed in rounds 5 through 7. Or better yet rounds 1-3. I thought that LB was still a pressing need, because we only have ONE LB who is proven healthy. Vilma, I think will be great, but what if something DOES happen. Dan Morgan, I know will get hurt and when he does he will be gone for good. Who else do we have. I hope that this new front four makes our LB corps look WAY better than they really are. I personally think that the front office did a good job of addressing the linebacker position in free agency so that they could use draft picks on other needs. Vilma is a star in a 4-3 system, and we now have a a stud defensive tackle to let him do his job even better. Simoneau was the biggest weakness last year, and he has been phased out thanks to Vilma. Fujita is still an above average starter, and we now have healthy competition at the WLB spot. So yes, we should be content with our LB corps, which in my opinion, is much stronger now.
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04-28-2008, 04:07 PM	#8
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: LB Totally agree the offseaon the LB got addressed as best it could and that gave us some room to address the other pressing need and that was DT's. You have to realize this game is designed to be played up front. Having a stud DT will make everyone better. You won't have as many OL coming out to block LB's ect.

04-28-2008, 04:30 PM	#9
andersen With an "E" Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Madisonville, LA Posts: 429	Re: LB Agrree that the DT pick was better than staying at ten and taking the LB. I still think they need that WLB that can be an edge pass rusher. Shanlee/Morgan are not.

04-28-2008, 04:39 PM	#10
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	Re: LB In a 4-3, usually you expect your edge rush from a DE. It would be nice to have any LB who can pressure the QB - SLB, WLB, or MLB. The 4-3 Blitz packages are just different from the 3-4 ones we used to use in the old days with Swilling and Jackson. Is it clear to everyone that Vilma will play MLB? I think he'd make a great WLB too. He's got good speed and, as I recall, he isn't too bad in coverage. People are down on Simoneau, but with Ellis in the middle of the DL now, he may be able to play much better. I like the speed and skill of a Vilma (WLB), Simoneau (MLB), and Fugita (SLB) package. Morgan can play on 1st or running downs at MLB. What do you guys think?
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