LB

stockman311 · 04-28-2008, 05:44 PM

I think that if I never see Shanle or Simenoux on the field for our starting LB's again it will be too soon.

Euphoria · 04-28-2008, 06:15 PM

Our LB's and coaches don't use the LB's as pass rushers that often. Hell they don't utilize anyone as a pass rusher. I don't see them changing blitzing our LB's that much this season either. Thats why they went after a top DT early. Get some big names up front to disrupt and you're LB's play more like safties and chase down runners.

Its what we do...

CantonLegend · 04-28-2008, 06:38 PM

this is what i project as the starting front seven......DE-grant and smith...NT-ellis...DT-Thomis.....MLB-Vilma....Weak-Morgan....Strong-Fujita....ne body else got a projection thats different?

WhoDatQB · 04-28-2008, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

this is what i project as the starting front seven......DE-grant and smith...NT-ellis...DT-Thomis.....MLB-Vilma....Weak-Morgan....Strong-Fujita....ne body else got a projection thats different?

DE - Smith and McCray
NT - Ellis
DT - Grant
LB - Vilma, Fujita, Morgan(he will get hurt in preseason)(so Shanle)
CB - Young, McKenzie(Or Gay)
S - Harper and a folding chair named Bullocks(hopefully KK)

CantonLegend · 04-28-2008, 10:10 PM

it was between hollis and charles for my DT but other than that i am with u....i think that they will rotate and that mccray will rotate in at DE

nedly · 04-28-2008, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by mighty12

Are we suppose to sit around and be content with our fragile LB Corps? I for one and very upset that this postion was not addressed in rounds 5 through 7. Or better yet rounds 1-3. I thought that LB was still a pressing need, because we only have ONE LB who is proven healthy. Vilma, I think will be great, but what if something DOES happen. Dan Morgan, I know will get hurt and when he does he will be gone for good. Who else do we have. I hope that this new front four makes our LB corps look WAY better than they really are.

I look at it this way. I am a little disappointed that we did not get a LB in the draft, however, Vilma is going to be a team leader. He is going to make everyone else around him better. Plus, I am very happy with the Ellis pick as well as the Pressley pickup. These are going to be our starting two DTs. Our biggest weakness on defense last year was a weak pass rush. If we can generate a big pass rush with our front four then this will be a huge year for us. We will have multiple defensive players in the pro bowl because of it.

JKool · 04-28-2008, 11:22 PM

I'm not sure Morgan still has the speed to play well as our SLB. Is that the current plan? I thought it was more likely he'd play in the middle. Anyone have any info on that?

hagan714 · 04-28-2008, 11:26 PM

i think Morgan is nothing more than an insurance policy. I can not see him as a 2 down LBer. If Vilma needs a couple of games before he can go then morgan will be active as part of a rotation.

CantonLegend · 04-28-2008, 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by JKool

I'm not sure Morgan still has the speed to play well as our SLB. Is that the current plan? I thought it was more likely he'd play in the middle. Anyone have any info on that?

i think the consensus is that vilma will be a mlb and fujita will be strong side....i think it will most likely be determined this pre season...i dont think the coaches are even 100% where each of our new LBs will be best suited

iceshack149 · 04-29-2008, 02:14 AM

JKool Re: LB
In a 4-3, usually you expect your edge rush from a DE. It would be nice to have any LB who can pressure the QB - SLB, WLB, or MLB. The 4-3 Blitz packages are just different from the 3-4 ones we used to use in the old days with Swilling and Jackson.

Is it clear to everyone that Vilma will play MLB? I think he'd make a great WLB too. He's got good speed and, as I recall, he isn't too bad in coverage. People are down on Simoneau, but with Ellis in the middle of the DL now, he may be able to play much better. I like the speed and skill of a Vilma (WLB), Simoneau (MLB), and Fugita (SLB) package. Morgan can play on 1st or running downs at MLB. What do you guys think?

I haven't seen you post for a while, kool. I'm glad to see you posting again.

If the Saints put Simoneau in the middle again then the team most certainly needs another LB. I would rather see Shanle there and hope that Evans could play there too. He made some plays in the pre-season last year that caught my attention.

04-28-2008, 05:44 PM	#11
stockman311 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,137	Re: LB I think that if I never see Shanle or Simenoux on the field for our starting LB's again it will be too soon.

04-28-2008, 06:15 PM	#12
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: LB Our LB's and coaches don't use the LB's as pass rushers that often. Hell they don't utilize anyone as a pass rusher. I don't see them changing blitzing our LB's that much this season either. Thats why they went after a top DT early. Get some big names up front to disrupt and you're LB's play more like safties and chase down runners. Its what we do...

04-28-2008, 06:38 PM	#13
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: LB this is what i project as the starting front seven......DE-grant and smith...NT-ellis...DT-Thomis.....MLB-Vilma....Weak-Morgan....Strong-Fujita....ne body else got a projection thats different?

04-28-2008, 10:05 PM	#14
WhoDatQB Boondock Saint Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: F***ing Atlanta Posts: 322	Re: LB Originally Posted by CantonLegend this is what i project as the starting front seven......DE-grant and smith...NT-ellis...DT-Thomis.....MLB-Vilma....Weak-Morgan....Strong-Fujita....ne body else got a projection thats different? DE - Smith and McCray NT - Ellis DT - Grant LB - Vilma, Fujita, Morgan(he will get hurt in preseason)(so Shanle) CB - Young, McKenzie(Or Gay) S - Harper and a folding chair named Bullocks(hopefully KK)

04-28-2008, 10:10 PM	#15
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: LB it was between hollis and charles for my DT but other than that i am with u....i think that they will rotate and that mccray will rotate in at DE

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04-28-2008, 10:32 PM	#16
nedly Registered Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 72	Re: LB Originally Posted by mighty12 Are we suppose to sit around and be content with our fragile LB Corps? I for one and very upset that this postion was not addressed in rounds 5 through 7. Or better yet rounds 1-3. I thought that LB was still a pressing need, because we only have ONE LB who is proven healthy. Vilma, I think will be great, but what if something DOES happen. Dan Morgan, I know will get hurt and when he does he will be gone for good. Who else do we have. I hope that this new front four makes our LB corps look WAY better than they really are. I look at it this way. I am a little disappointed that we did not get a LB in the draft, however, Vilma is going to be a team leader. He is going to make everyone else around him better. Plus, I am very happy with the Ellis pick as well as the Pressley pickup. These are going to be our starting two DTs. Our biggest weakness on defense last year was a weak pass rush. If we can generate a big pass rush with our front four then this will be a huge year for us. We will have multiple defensive players in the pro bowl because of it.
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04-28-2008, 11:22 PM	#17
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	Re: LB I'm not sure Morgan still has the speed to play well as our SLB. Is that the current plan? I thought it was more likely he'd play in the middle. Anyone have any info on that?

04-28-2008, 11:26 PM	#18
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: LB i think Morgan is nothing more than an insurance policy. I can not see him as a 2 down LBer. If Vilma needs a couple of games before he can go then morgan will be active as part of a rotation.

04-28-2008, 11:26 PM	#19
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: LB Originally Posted by JKool I'm not sure Morgan still has the speed to play well as our SLB. Is that the current plan? I thought it was more likely he'd play in the middle. Anyone have any info on that? i think the consensus is that vilma will be a mlb and fujita will be strong side....i think it will most likely be determined this pre season...i dont think the coaches are even 100% where each of our new LBs will be best suited

04-29-2008, 02:14 AM	#20
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,258 Blog Entries: 1	Re: LB JKool Re: LB In a 4-3, usually you expect your edge rush from a DE. It would be nice to have any LB who can pressure the QB - SLB, WLB, or MLB. The 4-3 Blitz packages are just different from the 3-4 ones we used to use in the old days with Swilling and Jackson. Is it clear to everyone that Vilma will play MLB? I think he'd make a great WLB too. He's got good speed and, as I recall, he isn't too bad in coverage. People are down on Simoneau, but with Ellis in the middle of the DL now, he may be able to play much better. I like the speed and skill of a Vilma (WLB), Simoneau (MLB), and Fugita (SLB) package. Morgan can play on 1st or running downs at MLB. What do you guys think? I haven't seen you post for a while, kool. I'm glad to see you posting again. If the Saints put Simoneau in the middle again then the team most certainly needs another LB. I would rather see Shanle there and hope that Evans could play there too. He made some plays in the pre-season last year that caught my attention.