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ssmitty 05-11-2008 05:20 AM
Re: shockeys future up for grabs.......
 
from pfw.........

Though both Giants and Saints officials appear hesitant to close the door on a Jeremy Shockey trade, we hear there is nothing brewing or imminent. Saints head coach Sean Payton would like to add a weapon at tight end, but we hear that the Giants’ asking price might have gone up since no deal could be culminated before or during the draft, when the Saints were rumored to have offered a second-round pick.

CheramieIII 05-11-2008 10:50 AM
Re: Jeremy Shockey
 
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that we don't need to bring in another TE I just don't want it to be Shockey. I think this team has done alot better as a group the last 2 seasons without having to worry about Shockey's antics. Everyone also has to admit that Shockey is a big injury risk and we already are relying on one big injury risk in Deuce.

Signing Shockey has huge upside but the downside is somewhere I don't want to go.

Why does he want to get out of New York again? He wasn't receiving enough ball time, oh yeah that's right he was on the bench for the Superbowl run last year. Now what's the problem again?

saintsfan1976 05-11-2008 11:02 AM
Re: Jeremy Shockey
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 166058)
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that we don't need to bring in another TE I just don't want it to be Shockey. I think this team has done alot better as a group the last 2 seasons without having to worry about Shockey's antics. Everyone also has to admit that Shockey is a big injury risk and we already are relying on one big injury risk in Deuce.

Signing Shockey has huge upside but the downside is somewhere I don't want to go.

Why does he want to get out of New York again? He wasn't receiving enough ball time, oh yeah that's right he was on the bench for the Superbowl run last year. Now what's the problem again?
I think you represent both sides of the argument over the last 4,000 pages of this thread Cher, but I think that Shockey is right now where Randy Moss was a few years ago - Looking for a QB that he believes in. Look at Randy's attitude and stats once he hooked up with Brady. The Randy of old!!

I believe that Shockey is looking for the same leadership in Payton and Brees. Why couldn't he come in and be happy? Sure...many disagree here. But was Eli considered anywhere near Brady or even Brees's level until AFTER the Superbowl???

papz 05-11-2008 11:31 AM
Re: Jeremy Shockey
 
Not even... he's still not on the level of Brady or Brees in terms of production. He's still grouped in the second tier of starting quarterbacks... he just happened to win a Superbowl.

CantonLegend 05-11-2008 11:38 AM
Re: Jeremy Shockey
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papz (Post 166080)
Not even... he's still not on the level of Brady or Brees in terms of production. He's still grouped in the second tier of starting quarterbacks... he just happened to win a Superbowl.
agreed.....brees is one of the top 5 qbs in the league right now and even tho eli proved he had a lot of heart in the super bowl...it doesnt make him ne more accurate or ne smarter....he will continue to get better...dont forget he was the number 1 overall pick so he has the potential....but brees is undoubtedly a better QB right now and adding shockey to his already ridiculous arsenal would mean more points....more T.O.P.(time of possession) and more consistency in the tight end position....i dont think we will land him ne more....i would like to see him in black and gold tho

hagan714 05-11-2008 11:40 AM
Re: Jeremy Shockey
 
I am so close to using my mod powers here and kill this grrrrrrrrrrrr Only kidding LOL
he is not a saint and will not be one unless the price drops a lot. I am saying he never becomes one.

CheramieIII 05-11-2008 06:36 PM
Re: Jeremy Shockey
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 166083)
I am so close to using my mod powers here and kill this grrrrrrrrrrrr Only kidding LOL
he is not a saint and will not be one unless the price drops a lot. I am saying he never becomes one.
Kill it Hagan, die you ugly beast die

Euphoria 05-11-2008 07:01 PM
Re: Jeremy Shockey
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 166082)
agreed.....brees is one of the top 5 qbs in the league right now and even tho eli proved he had a lot of heart in the super bowl...it doesnt make him ne more accurate or ne smarter....he will continue to get better...dont forget he was the number 1 overall pick so he has the potential....but brees is undoubtedly a better QB right now and adding shockey to his already ridiculous arsenal would mean more points....more T.O.P.(time of possession) and more consistency in the tight end position....i dont think we will land him ne more....i would like to see him in black and gold tho
Don't care about more points unless its to stop the other team from scoring points.

davegriff 05-11-2008 11:03 PM
Re: Jeremy Shockey
 
Sorry had to post this.........Has anyone seen it yet. Seems the rumors are swirling again. 2009 first rounder, and 4th rounder that could turn into a 2nd rounder. If they are pursuing this issue this hard, I look for it to get done by June. But then again that is what everyone said before the draft. Here is the link.

FOX Sports on MSN - NFL - Team Report

pakowitz 05-11-2008 11:33 PM
Re: Jeremy Shockey
 
havent seen that one.. but thanks for the post dave

heres a few things from the article:

Quote:
"It almost went down on draft day," said one observer close to one of the two teams, "but the Giants wouldn't budge on Harper and the Saints wouldn't give him up. So they just decided to put it off."


"(Head coach) Sean Payton wants him (Shockey) for this season," he says, "so what they are trying to do, as I understand it, is to work out the details of a deal."

The trade being discussed would involve the Saints' first-round pick for 2009, plus a fourth-round choice that could escalate to a second if he has one of those super seasons, like 70 catches, 800 yards and half a dozen touchdowns


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