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I’m extremely happy about that,” Porter said of being chosen by the Saints with the 40th overall pick. “I haven’t been to a lot of their games, but I watch all of them on television.”

Good luck to Tracy sound like he has great head on his shoulders.

WillMacKenzie

I'm definately not sold on Porter. Ellis, yeah. Porter, eh, when I hear from people that he shys away from contact, that raises a GIGANTIC red flag!

TheDeuce

I think that's a bunch of bull****. You don't shy away from contact and rack up 83 tackles in a season in addition to picking off a bunch. Just because Mel Kiper said he shys away from contact, now everybody is saying that. I mean maybe he does, but the numbers don't show that at all, in fact, they show the opposite.

hagan714

This struck me as weird. In all the pre draft evals I read and the few games of his I watched, I did not get that impression. He does need some coaching in his technique. Maybe it is the fact I never saw him try to deliver a knock out blow. He is not a big hitter but he does wrap up.

WillMacKenzie

"stats"

And Mark Simoneau's a stud middle linebacker...

Porter could be another one of these "bend but don't break" players who stand out in the field waiting for tackles to come to HIM.

Just saying - be realistic people.

TheDeuce

I know I'm a little late on this argument, but that's a completely different situation. Mark Simoneau is a middle linebacker who is supposed to rack up the tackles. If he doesn't, he sucks. Most MLBs have over 100 tackles a season (or if your Jonathan Vilma, you can get 187 or whatever he had a few years back).

But for a cornerback to rack up 87 tackles in a college football season, that's gotta tell you that he can tackle. I'm not saying I'm ready to crown him as the next coming of Champ Bailey, but I do think that you have to consider his stats when making an assessment of the player. Your right, stats don't tell the whole story, but it does make you wonder why he's been labeled as not a physical player.

JKool

"guesses"

I suppose that somebody somewhere saying that "he shys away from contact", which btw I haven't read anywhere, is good evidence, but stats aren't?

Strange.

WillMacKenzie

Jason David 2007

Games played: 13
Tackles: 50
Passes Defensed: 11
Forced Fumbles: 2 for 55 yards. (one returned for touchdown)
Interceptions: 3 for 21 yards.

Mike Mckenzie 2007

Games played: 15
Tackles: 52
Passes Defensed: 17
Forced Fumbles: 0
Interceptions: 3 for 161 (two touchdowns)

So from looking at the stats, we could say what? That Jason David and Mike Mckenzie were basically the same player? Were they really? Did you watch the games?

Strange, isn't it? : )

Memnoch_TP

There is one major difference though.

He was zeroing in on one specific aspect of Porter's play, and looking for stats that helped to determine that answer.

You were simply manipulating statistics to show that statistics can be manipulated, because you don't like statistics, because they can be manipulated.

This makes EXACTLY as much sense as a stranger walking up to you and asking you what time it is, and responding by giving him a picture of a donkey, telling him you love Jesus, farting, and walking off.

But, I don't expect a response to this. You see, WORDS can also be misleading! Yes, you read that right! WORDS can be misleading! Now you won't be able to talk or type, unless you dip your toes in that pool of inequity called language, and what would that do to your soul?

So, judgment goes to the defendant. Especially since the plaintiff testified against himself, showing two NFL CBs with 30+ less tackles than Porter, who played less games in college. Porter is NOT afraid of contact.

Having the right stats helped make this an easy call.

"Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." -- Douglas Adams.