Shockey=Upgrade?

CantonLegend · 05-04-2008, 08:19 PM

I think that adding shockey would be an immediate upgrade....i think there are a few of us who think otherwise....im just curious.....who thinks he would and who thinks he wont help us?

jewagr007 · 05-04-2008, 08:39 PM

Just based on talent....Yes!

Euphoria · 05-04-2008, 09:44 PM

I don't think you will find anyone who say its not an upgrade but the real question is "AT WHAT COSTS"? Its the same as having a Chad Johnson or TO on this team. Locker room cancers. Self-serving TE who doesn't go to camp or work out with the team.

The point can also be made now that the Giants won the SB and didn't need him. Now he has to go out there and prove he can actually earn the ring he got for sitting in the stands. LOL.

I think everyone is a fan of his talents but I wouldn't care for him to be in the same locker room as I am in. Practice with me, put in the same amount of time as I do and work as a team mate and not like we are the NEW YORK SHOCKEYS but the NEW YORK GIANTS.

pakowitz · 05-04-2008, 10:01 PM

but the point can also be made that he is only acting that way b/c of coughlin and the way that shockey is used in the offense... its no secret that shockey wants to play for payton b/c he knows he will be a big part of the offense just like he was in his rookie season when payton was the OC and shockey ended up as an All-Pro. ever since coughlins arrival shockeys #s have declined

TheDeuce · 05-04-2008, 10:31 PM

I think the mroe appropriate question would be:

Is adding Jeremy Shockey in the best interests of the franchise?

SaintFanInATLHELL · 05-04-2008, 10:32 PM

I vote something else unless you are willing guarantee that he's not going to be a problem.

His past history has shown him to be a loudmouth. Currently the Saints have no loudmouths on the squad. They are a bring your lunchpail type group that works hard and tries to get the job done.

Talent is important. Chemistry is important too.

Ask the question: if Shockey is an upgrade over Kevin Boss, then why are the Giants shopping him?

Hmm?

SFIAH

pakowitz · 05-04-2008, 11:24 PM

the same reason that any other teams shop one of their players.. he doesnt fit what theyare trying to do on offense and he doesnt get along with the head coach..

why are the eagles shopping lito sheppard? they would have an awesome secondary with him.. why get rid of him.. same reasoning applies

Euphoria · 05-04-2008, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

I vote something else unless you are willing guarantee that he's not going to be a problem.

His past history has shown him to be a loudmouth. Currently the Saints have no loudmouths on the squad. They are a bring your lunchpail type group that works hard and tries to get the job done.

Talent is important. Chemistry is important too.

Ask the question: if Shockey is an upgrade over Kevin Boss, then why are the Giants shopping him?

Hmm?

SFIAH

Because they realize they didn't need the headcase (shockey) on the team to win the SB rings they got.

RickyInKenner · 05-05-2008, 12:58 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

I vote something else unless you are willing guarantee that he's not going to be a problem.

His past history has shown him to be a loudmouth. Currently the Saints have no loudmouths on the squad. They are a bring your lunchpail type group that works hard and tries to get the job done.

Talent is important. Chemistry is important too.

Ask the question: if Shockey is an upgrade over Kevin Boss, then why are the Giants shopping him?

Hmm?

SFIAH

because he doesn't like the coaching staff and he wants to be on a team with a leader.

hagan714 · 05-05-2008, 07:59 AM

As of now I could careless about him. I need details on his cost. a second is to much. Look at the elite CB going for a second rounder. Do you guys think he is worth as much as them? Really?

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05-04-2008, 08:19 PM	#1
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Shockey=Upgrade? I think that adding shockey would be an immediate upgrade....i think there are a few of us who think otherwise....im just curious.....who thinks he would and who thinks he wont help us?

05-04-2008, 08:39 PM	#2
jewagr007 Rookie Join Date: May 2008 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 27	Re: Shockey=Upgrade? Just based on talent....Yes!

05-04-2008, 09:44 PM	#3
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Shockey=Upgrade? I don't think you will find anyone who say its not an upgrade but the real question is "AT WHAT COSTS"? Its the same as having a Chad Johnson or TO on this team. Locker room cancers. Self-serving TE who doesn't go to camp or work out with the team. The point can also be made now that the Giants won the SB and didn't need him. Now he has to go out there and prove he can actually earn the ring he got for sitting in the stands. LOL. I think everyone is a fan of his talents but I wouldn't care for him to be in the same locker room as I am in. Practice with me, put in the same amount of time as I do and work as a team mate and not like we are the NEW YORK SHOCKEYS but the NEW YORK GIANTS.
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05-04-2008, 10:01 PM	#4
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Re: Shockey=Upgrade? but the point can also be made that he is only acting that way b/c of coughlin and the way that shockey is used in the offense... its no secret that shockey wants to play for payton b/c he knows he will be a big part of the offense just like he was in his rookie season when payton was the OC and shockey ended up as an All-Pro. ever since coughlins arrival shockeys #s have declined

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05-04-2008, 10:31 PM	#5
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Re: Shockey=Upgrade? I think the mroe appropriate question would be: Is adding Jeremy Shockey in the best interests of the franchise?
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05-04-2008, 10:32 PM	#6
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Re: Shockey=Upgrade? I vote something else unless you are willing guarantee that he's not going to be a problem. His past history has shown him to be a loudmouth. Currently the Saints have no loudmouths on the squad. They are a bring your lunchpail type group that works hard and tries to get the job done. Talent is important. Chemistry is important too. Ask the question: if Shockey is an upgrade over Kevin Boss, then why are the Giants shopping him? Hmm? SFIAH

05-04-2008, 11:24 PM	#7
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Re: Shockey=Upgrade? the same reason that any other teams shop one of their players.. he doesnt fit what theyare trying to do on offense and he doesnt get along with the head coach.. why are the eagles shopping lito sheppard? they would have an awesome secondary with him.. why get rid of him.. same reasoning applies

05-04-2008, 11:43 PM	#8
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Shockey=Upgrade? Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL I vote something else unless you are willing guarantee that he's not going to be a problem. His past history has shown him to be a loudmouth. Currently the Saints have no loudmouths on the squad. They are a bring your lunchpail type group that works hard and tries to get the job done. Talent is important. Chemistry is important too. Ask the question: if Shockey is an upgrade over Kevin Boss, then why are the Giants shopping him? Hmm? SFIAH Because they realize they didn't need the headcase (shockey) on the team to win the SB rings they got.

05-05-2008, 12:58 AM	#9
RickyInKenner Registered Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 60	Re: Shockey=Upgrade? Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL I vote something else unless you are willing guarantee that he's not going to be a problem. His past history has shown him to be a loudmouth. Currently the Saints have no loudmouths on the squad. They are a bring your lunchpail type group that works hard and tries to get the job done. Talent is important. Chemistry is important too. Ask the question: if Shockey is an upgrade over Kevin Boss, then why are the Giants shopping him? Hmm? SFIAH because he doesn't like the coaching staff and he wants to be on a team with a leader.
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05-05-2008, 07:59 AM	#10
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Shockey=Upgrade? As of now I could careless about him. I need details on his cost. a second is to much. Look at the elite CB going for a second rounder. Do you guys think he is worth as much as them? Really?