Is pierre tradeable?

Memnoch_TP · 05-14-2008, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

alright as hard as it is to not swear at u im going to try

Yeah, I get that a lot.

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

...that was kinda a dick move...

I get that a lot too. Mainly because I'm a dick. But I'm okay with that.

Originally Posted by Pakowitz

im kinda with canton on this one.. everyone is head over heels in love with PT and i think we need to see more of him before we start saying he should be the starting RB.. just b/c he had one awesome game doesnt mean u can do it for a full season..

Aight, I am not in love with Pierre Thomas. I don't know his number, what he looks like, his college, his stats, his height or weight. I didn't see much preseason this year, and to be honest, I Tivoed the last game, and after I accidentally found out we lost I didn't have the heart to watch it. F'n Bears...

You know what I do know about Pierre Thomas? He is our guy. He has not proven to us that he can be a #1 RB in the NFL, but he has obviously proven it to Payton. He has not shown he can perform at a high level all season long. But then, neither can Mendenhall or Stuart or any of the other stud RB's taken in the draft this year. They have never played in an NFL game, and have never been with a team for a full NFL schedule. But the bottom line is, he is our guy. Period.

I cannot believe that the coaches and front office can be blind to the fact that Deuce is pretty ripped up. Three major knee injuries is big at Deuce's age. They HAVE to have a backup option. It is their JOBS to have a backup option.

Thomas walked on to the team, and was good enough that they sent their 3rd round pick packing.

They did NOT draft a running back this year.

They did not aggressively pursue Michael Turner.

They have passed on a former league MVP, who may not be the MVP he was, but would be more than sufficient sharing a backfield with Karney and Reggie.

I am not in love with Pierre Thomas, but I hope to be soon, because he is our guy. I have faith in the Coach Payton, he is still learning and growing as a head coach, but he has proven he has an eye for personnel and the ability to get the best out of them.

If we has taken McFadden in the 1st round, happy about the pick or not, we would all expect him to jump in and be the future of the Saints. No experience, unproven, but destined to be our guy. I simply expect the same of Thomas. To me Thomas is like a new draft pick with more experience.

Thomas is unproven, but less so than any draft pick. I don't see why we should not expect him to take the reigns at RB, when we would expect it from a high draft pick.

FACT: Deuce is going to have a hard time coming back from this, and will probably not be 100% for the start of the season, if he ever is again.
FACT: The Coaching staff obviously thinks he can handle it, because they have ignored several good opportunities to bring in a new running back.
FACT: Pierre Thomas is our guy.

When it all comes down to it, Thomas has given us all more reason to think that he can succeed, than to think he will fail. Being undrafted means nothing in relation to Pierre Thomas' ability to succeed in the NFL. The fact that he is where is is, compared to where he started, is just more proof that he has the skills and the moxy to be the man for us. I am excited that the coaching staff has someone that they believe in that much.

I may be being a dick again, but seeing as Canton is a college scout, I think half of his doubts about Pierre Thomas stem from the fact that a viable #1 NFL stud RB going undrafted would most certainly have to be defined as a "Massive scouting error of biblical proportions". Canton trusts the opinions of his peers, I trust the opinion of Sean Payton.

We have our guy, Pak, and he has at least earned the benefit of the doubt in my opinion.

05-14-2008, 10:46 PM	#11
Memnoch_TP Logic Troll Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern Louisiana Posts: 565	Re: Is pierre tradeable? Originally Posted by CantonLegend alright as hard as it is to not swear at u im going to try Yeah, I get that a lot. Originally Posted by CantonLegend ...that was kinda a dick move... I get that a lot too. Mainly because I'm a dick. But I'm okay with that. Originally Posted by Pakowitz im kinda with canton on this one.. everyone is head over heels in love with PT and i think we need to see more of him before we start saying he should be the starting RB.. just b/c he had one awesome game doesnt mean u can do it for a full season.. Aight, I am not in love with Pierre Thomas. I don't know his number, what he looks like, his college, his stats, his height or weight. I didn't see much preseason this year, and to be honest, I Tivoed the last game, and after I accidentally found out we lost I didn't have the heart to watch it. F'n Bears... You know what I do know about Pierre Thomas? He is our guy. He has not proven to us that he can be a #1 RB in the NFL, but he has obviously proven it to Payton. He has not shown he can perform at a high level all season long. But then, neither can Mendenhall or Stuart or any of the other stud RB's taken in the draft this year. They have never played in an NFL game, and have never been with a team for a full NFL schedule. But the bottom line is, he is our guy. Period. I cannot believe that the coaches and front office can be blind to the fact that Deuce is pretty ripped up. Three major knee injuries is big at Deuce's age. They HAVE to have a backup option. It is their JOBS to have a backup option. Thomas walked on to the team, and was good enough that they sent their 3rd round pick packing. They did NOT draft a running back this year. They did not aggressively pursue Michael Turner. They have passed on a former league MVP, who may not be the MVP he was, but would be more than sufficient sharing a backfield with Karney and Reggie. I am not in love with Pierre Thomas, but I hope to be soon, because he is our guy. I have faith in the Coach Payton, he is still learning and growing as a head coach, but he has proven he has an eye for personnel and the ability to get the best out of them. If we has taken McFadden in the 1st round, happy about the pick or not, we would all expect him to jump in and be the future of the Saints. No experience, unproven, but destined to be our guy. I simply expect the same of Thomas. To me Thomas is like a new draft pick with more experience. Thomas is unproven, but less so than any draft pick. I don't see why we should not expect him to take the reigns at RB, when we would expect it from a high draft pick. FACT: Deuce is going to have a hard time coming back from this, and will probably not be 100% for the start of the season, if he ever is again. FACT: The Coaching staff obviously thinks he can handle it, because they have ignored several good opportunities to bring in a new running back. FACT: Pierre Thomas is our guy. When it all comes down to it, Thomas has given us all more reason to think that he can succeed, than to think he will fail. Being undrafted means nothing in relation to Pierre Thomas' ability to succeed in the NFL. The fact that he is where is is, compared to where he started, is just more proof that he has the skills and the moxy to be the man for us. I am excited that the coaching staff has someone that they believe in that much. I may be being a dick again, but seeing as Canton is a college scout, I think half of his doubts about Pierre Thomas stem from the fact that a viable #1 NFL stud RB going undrafted would most certainly have to be defined as a "Massive scouting error of biblical proportions". Canton trusts the opinions of his peers, I trust the opinion of Sean Payton. We have our guy, Pak, and he has at least earned the benefit of the doubt in my opinion.
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