Anyone have access to the coaches' footage?

SaintFanInATLHELL · 09-28-2009, 01:19 PM

I'm curious to see what the Bills did to shut Brees and the receivers down. Or what Payton/Brees saw in the running game to keep them from throwing the ball.

This was a completely different type of offense. I just want to know why they went this route for this game.

SFIAH

WhoDat205 · 09-28-2009, 01:30 PM

Man, I wish I did have access to that. I'd love to see what both teams did on D. I know we threw a bunch of new defensive looks at Buff, but those two pitchers of Restoration i put down hampered my ability to analyze much of anything.

Still, I'm betting the story on Buff's D was 2 deep safeties and a up-the-middle pass rush. Brees always has a tough time with the middle rush and there didn't see to be a lot open down field.

That also jibes with the good running game we put together. They weren't stacking the box and gave us the run.

FrenzyFan · 09-28-2009, 02:11 PM

Without the actual footage to show, I would guess that the weather played the most important part in stopping Brees. I know that the Bills ran with a nickel back often played coverage more than any other mode, but I doubt that would keep Brees down without the wind.

It was swirling strong enough to require a holder on kickoffs throughout the entire game. Among the few passes that I saw thrown, the sailed and wound up very off-target for both Brees and for Edwards. The shorts routes seemed to work pretty well, but that's all that was working. I think that Brees wound up statistically low (for him) because he was smart with the ball and chose not to throw it.

It's just a guess, but its my BEST guess.

Budsdrinker · 09-28-2009, 02:14 PM

To me it look liked the field conditions had a lot to do with it. The turf was slick from the rain and the receivers didn't get much separation after the first drive.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 09-28-2009, 02:16 PM

I am damn glad we could run the ball effectively.

SFIAH

Tobias-Reiper · 09-29-2009, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by FrenzyFan

Without the actual footage to show, I would guess that the weather played the most important part in stopping Brees. I know that the Bills ran with a nickel back often played coverage more than any other mode, but I doubt that would keep Brees down without the wind.

It was swirling strong enough to require a holder on kickoffs throughout the entire game. Among the few passes that I saw thrown, the sailed and wound up very off-target for both Brees and for Edwards. The shorts routes seemed to work pretty well, but that's all that was working. I think that Brees wound up statistically low (for him) because he was smart with the ball and chose not to throw it.

It's just a guess, but its my BEST guess.

I agree. Best example was Drew overthrowing Devery on that deep ball. Devery usually outruns those, and Brees doesn't have that type of gun.

darstep · 09-29-2009, 02:44 PM

I also noticed that Brees' short stuff was also a bit off the mark. Brees normally hits guys in stride, which allows them the get good yards after the catch. Even 6'5" Shockey had to adjust and go down to make some catches. Twice Bush got flat footed and unable to go 0-to-60 away from a linebacker. Brees has been showing much better accuracy...not just getting the completion, but putting the ball on the right side of the receiver. A couple of punts got hung up in the wind, and bounced back towards the kicking team, kind of an abnormal occurance. There had to be something going on. The running game gives us options, thank God for options.

MatthewT · 09-29-2009, 06:30 PM

I truly believe the wind is what hurt the passing attack. The Saints pretty much run a precision type passing game, and the wind pretty much kills it.

09-28-2009, 01:19 PM	#1
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Anyone have access to the coaches' footage? I'm curious to see what the Bills did to shut Brees and the receivers down. Or what Payton/Brees saw in the running game to keep them from throwing the ball. This was a completely different type of offense. I just want to know why they went this route for this game. SFIAH

09-28-2009, 01:30 PM	#2
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Anyone have access to the coaches' footage? Man, I wish I did have access to that. I'd love to see what both teams did on D. I know we threw a bunch of new defensive looks at Buff, but those two pitchers of Restoration i put down hampered my ability to analyze much of anything. Still, I'm betting the story on Buff's D was 2 deep safeties and a up-the-middle pass rush. Brees always has a tough time with the middle rush and there didn't see to be a lot open down field. That also jibes with the good running game we put together. They weren't stacking the box and gave us the run.
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09-28-2009, 02:11 PM	#3
FrenzyFan 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 406	Re: Anyone have access to the coaches' footage? Without the actual footage to show, I would guess that the weather played the most important part in stopping Brees. I know that the Bills ran with a nickel back often played coverage more than any other mode, but I doubt that would keep Brees down without the wind. It was swirling strong enough to require a holder on kickoffs throughout the entire game. Among the few passes that I saw thrown, the sailed and wound up very off-target for both Brees and for Edwards. The shorts routes seemed to work pretty well, but that's all that was working. I think that Brees wound up statistically low (for him) because he was smart with the ball and chose not to throw it. It's just a guess, but its my BEST guess.
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09-28-2009, 02:14 PM	#4
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Anyone have access to the coaches' footage? To me it look liked the field conditions had a lot to do with it. The turf was slick from the rain and the receivers didn't get much separation after the first drive.

09-28-2009, 02:16 PM	#5
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Anyone have access to the coaches' footage? I am damn glad we could run the ball effectively. SFIAH

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09-29-2009, 10:34 AM	#6
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Anyone have access to the coaches' footage? Originally Posted by FrenzyFan Without the actual footage to show, I would guess that the weather played the most important part in stopping Brees. I know that the Bills ran with a nickel back often played coverage more than any other mode, but I doubt that would keep Brees down without the wind. It was swirling strong enough to require a holder on kickoffs throughout the entire game. Among the few passes that I saw thrown, the sailed and wound up very off-target for both Brees and for Edwards. The shorts routes seemed to work pretty well, but that's all that was working. I think that Brees wound up statistically low (for him) because he was smart with the ball and chose not to throw it. It's just a guess, but its my BEST guess. I agree. Best example was Drew overthrowing Devery on that deep ball. Devery usually outruns those, and Brees doesn't have that type of gun.

09-29-2009, 02:44 PM	#7
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: Anyone have access to the coaches' footage? I also noticed that Brees' short stuff was also a bit off the mark. Brees normally hits guys in stride, which allows them the get good yards after the catch. Even 6'5" Shockey had to adjust and go down to make some catches. Twice Bush got flat footed and unable to go 0-to-60 away from a linebacker. Brees has been showing much better accuracy...not just getting the completion, but putting the ball on the right side of the receiver. A couple of punts got hung up in the wind, and bounced back towards the kicking team, kind of an abnormal occurance. There had to be something going on. The running game gives us options, thank God for options.
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09-29-2009, 06:30 PM	#8
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Anyone have access to the coaches' footage? I truly believe the wind is what hurt the passing attack. The Saints pretty much run a precision type passing game, and the wind pretty much kills it.